I'll repeat for the people that don't understand.
Government rules country
Group of crazy extremists "Those wackos that pray 50 times a day, listen to old farts called clerics and chant "death to America" organized by our great friend Iran
They try to oust the president
Saddam stomps them into the ground
war over
If you're asking me what side I'm on. I'm on Saddam's side. You can be on Iran's side since you support those crazed fanatics.
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I hope you do know what the UN inspectors really were in 1998.
But until proven otherwise, theres no weapons of mass destructions in Iraq, nor links to Al Qaeda.
Right, where did they go?
UNSCOM and Iraqi Chemical Weapons
Nothing wrong with that. I agree. Those people were going to turn Iraq into Outer Iran. Some turned on Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war. Now that Saddam is gone, the path is clear for these people to set up their religious state and we all know how much Shi'ite religious states love the US.
The Kurds also got what they deserved. They fight with everyone around them and eachother. Most are Bin Laden supporters. They got run out of Turkey, they fight with the Iranian dissadents living in Northern Iraq and even Iran gased them not too long ago. They turned on the Iraqis and Saddam crushed them and they have been hiding in the mountains in Northern Iraq until recently.
With these groups Iraq under Saddam did what any other country would do. He can't be deemed a monster for putting down revolts, for other things I can't say.
"The network quoted a U.S. Army colonel in charge of inspecting key sites in Baghdad as saying no trace of a bunker or of bodies had been found at the site on the southern outskirts of the Iraqi capital, known as Dora Farms. "
taken from the link your post... Looks like no one was hurst during the bomb...
BTW were you against the war or for it?
And for the record its not funny, but its better that "number" go down instead of raising.. Unless you were fine with the situation..
This was probably the result of the ace intelligence team Rumsfeld or was it Wolfi put together in the basement of the Pentagon. One of those two clowns is also reporting that Saddam destroyed the WMD before the war like his step son or somebody said. Remember how exciting it was. 20 million dollars in bombs and we maybe got Saddam. Yeah Saddam might have been killed in the first day of the war. Wow, are we good. She shock was awesome. Oh wait, that would have killed people.
LunarRay
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MB,
I'll bet your next three months sherry bill that the WMD no one can find were hidden in the bunker that didn't exist and now we went and destroyed the proof of each. We should have waited till after the invasion to try and hit Saddam...
I wonder if when I wake up I'll find all this is a dream and none of it ever existed... ya know how goofy dreams can be.. And like the Wizard of Oz each person here will turn out to be someone I know... toto/tuffy wicked witch/hmmm.... wait maybe Gore won?
Now you're talking strategery. On the first night of the war we blew up the non existant WMD in a non existant bunker so we could illegally take over a country without a risk those weapons would be used against us at some later stage of the war. I was puzzled by how they were going to destroy all those WMD that didn't exist. Now I know.
sMiLeYz
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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I hope you do know what the UN inspectors really were in 1998.
But until proven otherwise, theres no weapons of mass destructions in Iraq, nor links to Al Qaeda.
Right, where did they go?
UNSCOM and Iraqi Chemical Weapons
Well for them to go anywhere they first have to exist.
There is no physical evidence, the evidence produced by our intelligence has proven faulty again and again, the Iraq scientists insist even when Saddam is gone... that there isnt any WMDs to begin with.
Do you see where I'm getting at? Or are you going to continue living in denial?
LunarRay
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MB,
Now let me see if I get this. Who's on first? Right! I'm asking YOU who's on first? Right!
Once again we see Wolfie throwing tuffs of dirt at random who will surely duck hitting us square in the face. Sh!t! We'll cry. But, neary a pant will fall.
I love Plausable Denial. Gives me the sense that all about me are in tune and I, a gullible loon.
If our intel caused us to bomb the nothing to detonate the something that too was nothing we may find that nothing will soon become something. Assuming Wolfie hasn't something else up his sleeve.
(still) (awaiting deposit) (then nothing becomes something) I get it all now.
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Between what the UN inspectors did find, document, & destroy at the end of Gulf-1,
& what OUR Army did find, DID NOT DOCUMENT, & then destroyed lies the truth.
How can you hold someone responsible for what they were not accountable for.
We used the 'Missing' WMD as a hammer, knowing full well that since they had no
idea of what we had secretly destroyed and NOT accounted for, it could be used as
evidence through lack of accountability against them.
Hell - we don't even know what we ourselves have here, they just found a huge dump
of Bio-Hazard weapons in the north east U.S. that had no records - from previous decades.
& what OUR Army did find, DID NOT DOCUMENT, & then destroyed lies the truth.
How can you hold someone responsible for what they were not accountable for.
We used the 'Missing' WMD as a hammer, knowing full well that since they had no
idea of what we had secretly destroyed and NOT accounted for, it could be used as
evidence through lack of accountability against them.
Hell - we don't even know what we ourselves have here, they just found a huge dump
of Bio-Hazard weapons in the north east U.S. that had no records - from previous decades.
How can you hold someone responsible for what they were not accountable for? Well... you assume the role of world police, of course.
Whoops.
Iraq was such a terribly dangerous 'threat'. After all, its not like another country is saying:
"Then all of a sudden, North Korea jumps up on the table, cocacine smeared across its face, screaming, "DON'T FVCK WITH NORTH KOREA, MAN!! YOU MOTHERFOCKERS BETTER NOT F--K WITH ME OR I'LL RAIN ATOMIC DEATH DOWN ALL YOUR GOAT-MOLLESTING @SSES!!!"
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Wow perfect analogy. Sure if a group tried to take over the white house they would be put down and killed. But I don't think there would be systematic murder, rape, and abuse of their families and people of the same religion. And I don't think that group would be bulldozed into a big hole in the middle of the desert. You can't just view life through a simplistic lense.
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EXman
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Ya right and not tell anyone he did or show any records of it avoiding his ouster. I don't think he is that stupid. He had them that is the only fact we know. Anthrax just does not vanish it is somewhere. If he did destroy it w/o telling he has to be the dumbest dictator ever.
You can't just view life through a simplistic lense.
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I want to challenge this assertion. We just started a war on that basis.
Blair is absolutly sure the weapons are there. He needs more time to find them. Maybe there's still enough democracy left in England that an investigation into the lies for war will take place, but over here, Democrats would have to admit to being chumps to do an about face. I don't see it happening.
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I want to challenge this assertion. We just started a war on that basis.
Blair is absolutly sure the weapons are there. He needs more time to find them. Maybe there's still enough democracy left in England that an investigation into the lies for war will take place, but over here, Democrats would have to admit to being chumps to do an about face. I don't see it happening.
LunarRay
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MB,
I dunno about that one. There could be massive benefit if the Dems did say "ya can't believe a thing they say.. etc.", "We were provided tainted intel", "We will force an investigation into this", "Some heads are going to roll if what we suspect turns out to be true", "yes, BBC reporter, you have a question?".
I dunno about that one. There could be massive benefit if the Dems did say "ya can't believe a thing they say.. etc.", "We were provided tainted intel", "We will force an investigation into this", "Some heads are going to roll if what we suspect turns out to be true", "yes, BBC reporter, you have a question?".
Here we go again. They were not murdered. They attempted to start a revolt and got put down and buried in mass graves. Should they get each 10k platinum coffins with a shotgun salute funeral? Some of you can't grasp reality and believe all the propoganda pieces the extreme muslims put out. I hope you'll be happy with Baby Iran because that's what Iraq is going to turn out to be.
I don't remember the US gov't going easy on the Confederacy after the Civil War, or as the people in the south call it "The War of Northern Aggression". Remember the Radical Reconstruction? Shermans march? The gov't punished the people of the south for breaking away, killed them, burned their homes and destroyed their way of life. Lincoln and Johnson are in the same class as Saddam when it comes to putting down revolts.
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