iamwiz82 is obviously the typical AT elite suburbanite "I'm more important than you" type. Grow up.
If you can do the deed, then you can serve the time. So to speak. Sex is not for someone who cannot grasp this basic concept, life far outweighs your pathetic asperations to go to college and pull down $150k/yr doing nothing at some corporate job.
I'll tell you EXACTLY what I'd do. I'd accept responsibility and make it very apparent I'm fully supportive and intend to be around no matter what for the kid's life. Just wait until you actually become a father, your view will greatly be changed. Will you shove your parents into a crappy cheap nursing home because they are too much trouble to take care of when they get older? Probably.
Do everyone a favor, stop having sex so you don't have to become a murderer. You are obviously not ready and not willing to accept any sort of responsibility for your actions.
-Phil
If you can do the deed, then you can serve the time. So to speak. Sex is not for someone who cannot grasp this basic concept, life far outweighs your pathetic asperations to go to college and pull down $150k/yr doing nothing at some corporate job.
I'll tell you EXACTLY what I'd do. I'd accept responsibility and make it very apparent I'm fully supportive and intend to be around no matter what for the kid's life. Just wait until you actually become a father, your view will greatly be changed. Will you shove your parents into a crappy cheap nursing home because they are too much trouble to take care of when they get older? Probably.
Do everyone a favor, stop having sex so you don't have to become a murderer. You are obviously not ready and not willing to accept any sort of responsibility for your actions.
-Phil
Abortion is totally inhumane - it should be the ABSOLUTE LAST OPTION. If you've seen the baby development display at The Museum of Science and Industry, Chicago, you would know that a 1 month old fetus still looks like a baby.
bah forget it...I'm not going to comment on this anymore...it's just going to degenerate into a flamewar...and no one cares about anyone else's views....
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life far outweighs your pathetic asperations to go to college and pull down $150k/yr doing nothing at some corporate job
Thats a very good point and one which i'd never considered before. Myself and woman had thought as iamawiz thought in the past but now that I'm older I know that the real thing was that we wanted to finish school without any "hassels" and when it really comes down to it a kid is truly more important than landing the next job or "traveling for a few years first".
WSPTrooper
Geeze, I guess you would turn your head if your neighbor killed HIS son
Thats a very good point and one which i'd never considered before. Myself and woman had thought as iamawiz thought in the past but now that I'm older I know that the real thing was that we wanted to finish school without any "hassels" and when it really comes down to it a kid is truly more important than landing the next job or "traveling for a few years first".
WSPTrooper
Geeze, I guess you would turn your head if your neighbor killed HIS son
Viper, what if you're a crack-whore and your baby is going to most likely be born a cocaine-addict with AIDS?
And whose fault woould those things be? The babies?
:disgust:
Viper GTS
And whose fault woould those things be? The babies?
:disgust:
Viper GTS
The problem is that not everyone thinks the way you guys do. You guys think that way because you're smart and responsible and because of that wouldn't get into a situation where you'd have to make that decision. The problem lies where people who are getting into this problem are irresponsible and not all that smart. They probably can't afford to support a child either emotionally, mentally or financially. Some may just choose not to because they are irresponsible.
iamwiz82
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LOL,
<< Accept my responsibility and provide for the life that I have helped create >>
hate to tell you, but a good portion of society lives below the poverty level, so therefore, those kids are getting crapped on, and when they grow up, they will have abetter chance to commit crimes.
There was actually a study that was posted here a few weeks ago about when England made abortion legal and the rate of crime 18 years later, it has fallen dramatically.
Funny story. My dad and mom dated in high school, back in the late fifties, early sixties, and my mom got pregnant at 17. They got married in a hurry, and had my brother. My dad had no money for his son, and their level of life fell by huge amounts. Now, i think my dad would say he made the right decsision, but i beg to differ. He spent 5 grueling years going to night school to get a bachelors degree, while working 60 hours a week. Not my idea of a perfect lifestyle.
<< Accept my responsibility and provide for the life that I have helped create >>
hate to tell you, but a good portion of society lives below the poverty level, so therefore, those kids are getting crapped on, and when they grow up, they will have abetter chance to commit crimes.
There was actually a study that was posted here a few weeks ago about when England made abortion legal and the rate of crime 18 years later, it has fallen dramatically.
Funny story. My dad and mom dated in high school, back in the late fifties, early sixties, and my mom got pregnant at 17. They got married in a hurry, and had my brother. My dad had no money for his son, and their level of life fell by huge amounts. Now, i think my dad would say he made the right decsision, but i beg to differ. He spent 5 grueling years going to night school to get a bachelors degree, while working 60 hours a week. Not my idea of a perfect lifestyle.
<<Do everyone a favor, stop having sex so you don't have to become a murderer. >>
how about you not forcing your beliefs on everyone else?
how about you not forcing your beliefs on everyone else?
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iamwiz82
You don't live below the poverty line either...
but i beg to differ. He spent 5 grueling years going to night school to get a bachelors degree, while working 60 hours a week. Not my idea of a perfect lifestyle.
I bet your brother definitely does not beg to differ...because if he did he'd never have been born! You may say that now but I bet your dad is pretty damn glad he did what he did and had your brother.
Viper
And whose fault woould those things be? The babies?
Its the mom's fault, but a cocaine-addict AIDS baby is not going to live a good life at all and he/she is the one who has to suffer it if they are born.
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Really I think in certain cases, such as the cocaine-addict AIDS baby abortion is probably the best thing to do because the baby will never enjoy life. However the rate at which people are aborting is alarming because in all but a tiny percentage of cases reasonable means could have been used to prevent pregnancy and yet people just don't bother or are not smart enough to remember to take a pill every day and they have a kid.
You don't live below the poverty line either...
but i beg to differ. He spent 5 grueling years going to night school to get a bachelors degree, while working 60 hours a week. Not my idea of a perfect lifestyle.
I bet your brother definitely does not beg to differ...because if he did he'd never have been born! You may say that now but I bet your dad is pretty damn glad he did what he did and had your brother.
Viper
And whose fault woould those things be? The babies?
Its the mom's fault, but a cocaine-addict AIDS baby is not going to live a good life at all and he/she is the one who has to suffer it if they are born.
--
Really I think in certain cases, such as the cocaine-addict AIDS baby abortion is probably the best thing to do because the baby will never enjoy life. However the rate at which people are aborting is alarming because in all but a tiny percentage of cases reasonable means could have been used to prevent pregnancy and yet people just don't bother or are not smart enough to remember to take a pill every day and they have a kid.
Triumph
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<< He spent 5 grueling years going to night school to get a bachelors degree, while working 60 hours a week. Not my idea of a perfect lifestyle. >>
God forbid your dad have to work hard to support his family! No, he should've killed his kid and taken it easy. Sounds fair to me!
Sounds like your dad was a lot more responsible at that age than you are.
snakesnfrogs -
once again, you attack somethin I have not said. I was stating a belief, I never told anyone they can't get an abortion if they decide to. I believe it IS there choice, and they'll just have to live with it the rest of their life. I do NOT agree with it though, I find it akin to murdering, if not murdering itself.
iamwiz, just how did you become what you are after growing up with someone who is actually responsible? You owe your dad a lot for the sacrafices he made it sounds like.. Yet you're unthankful and wish he hadn't? Heh. Perhaps he made your life a bit to easy. *shrug*
And yes, I do practice what I preach, and have.
-Phil
once again, you attack somethin I have not said. I was stating a belief, I never told anyone they can't get an abortion if they decide to. I believe it IS there choice, and they'll just have to live with it the rest of their life. I do NOT agree with it though, I find it akin to murdering, if not murdering itself.
iamwiz, just how did you become what you are after growing up with someone who is actually responsible? You owe your dad a lot for the sacrafices he made it sounds like.. Yet you're unthankful and wish he hadn't? Heh. Perhaps he made your life a bit to easy. *shrug*
And yes, I do practice what I preach, and have.
-Phil
Not my idea of a perfect lifestyle.
Why, because you might actually have to work hard? Do you dislike hard work?
Or is it just the inconvenience, that you'd rather be at home boning your wife/gf/whateverfloatsyourboat than working to support a child that you created?
Viper GTS
Why, because you might actually have to work hard? Do you dislike hard work?
Or is it just the inconvenience, that you'd rather be at home boning your wife/gf/whateverfloatsyourboat than working to support a child that you created?
Viper GTS
iamwiz82
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<< life far outweighs your pathetic asperations to go to college and pull down $150k/yr doing nothing at some corporate job
Thats a very good point and one which i'd never considered before. Myself and woman had thought as iamawiz thought in the past but now that I'm older I know that the real thing was that we wanted to finish school without any "hassels" and when it really comes down to it a kid is truly more important than landing the next job or "traveling for a few years first".
WSPTrooper
Geeze, I guess you would turn your head if your neighbor killed HIS son
>>Skoornb, we have choosen abortion over having the child because we cant afford it. She is covered by her dad's health insurance until she graduates from college, but i know that he would take her off in a second if he found out she was pregnant, and i sure as heck can pay for a child, an apartment, and college...
<< Now, i think my dad would say he made the right decsision, but i beg to differ. He spent 5 grueling years going to night school to get a bachelors degree, while working 60 hours a week. Not my idea of a perfect lifestyle. >>
So, let's see. Your opinion would be that your Dad's hard work of earning a degree while caring for his family, and taking care of his responsibilites was the WRONG decision?
Would have been better to just snuff the baby, so he wouldn't have to work so hard?
That philosophy is more disgusting then the pictures in that link.
Russ, NCNE
I'm borderline pro-choice, but this video made me lose my dinner. I found it over at StileProject, and they called it the single most disturbing clip ever. Coming from them, that makes the clip look really bad.
Don't mind the tasteless music. The pictures are very graphic though.
You were warned...
here
Don't mind the tasteless music. The pictures are very graphic though.
You were warned...
here
Skoornb, we have choosen abortion over having the child because we cant afford it.
Then you shouldn't be having sex. Sex is not a God-given right, there is no line in the Constitution that states "Every citizen of these United States shall have the opportunity to shoot their load somewhere other than their solitary shower." If you can't afford the responsibility that comes with it, you have no right to be having it.
Viper GTS
Then you shouldn't be having sex. Sex is not a God-given right, there is no line in the Constitution that states "Every citizen of these United States shall have the opportunity to shoot their load somewhere other than their solitary shower." If you can't afford the responsibility that comes with it, you have no right to be having it.
Viper GTS
Brooks,
It's a Windows Media Video. Ver 7.0 or 6.4 with the right codecs will play it.
Russ, NCNE
It's a Windows Media Video. Ver 7.0 or 6.4 with the right codecs will play it.
Russ, NCNE
Then, Skoorb, I would have a son or a daughter to take care of.
I am not going to get into a really heated debate over prolive - prochoice, nor is this directed at anyone. I'm just passing through really quick, but all I ask is that everyone understand that a fetus is a child. When you get an abortion, you are killing that child, who is, infact, your son or daughter. It does not matter if it is 9 minutes old or 9 months, it is still alive. Weigh this against the reasons to see if it is worth doing.
I have a very strong animocity toward people who use abortion as a birth control. If used in this fashion, then look me in the eye and say "I did kill my child so we could have careless sex"
And don't try to feed me that bullshit about all the reasons people have abortions. I am 24 years old, and do not have a child. When I have one, it will be loved, no matter what the circumstances are. It could be a quadraplegic mentally retarded vegetable, but it will still be my son.
Off to bed. ~Night~
I am not going to get into a really heated debate over prolive - prochoice, nor is this directed at anyone. I'm just passing through really quick, but all I ask is that everyone understand that a fetus is a child. When you get an abortion, you are killing that child, who is, infact, your son or daughter. It does not matter if it is 9 minutes old or 9 months, it is still alive. Weigh this against the reasons to see if it is worth doing.
I have a very strong animocity toward people who use abortion as a birth control. If used in this fashion, then look me in the eye and say "I did kill my child so we could have careless sex"
And don't try to feed me that bullshit about all the reasons people have abortions. I am 24 years old, and do not have a child. When I have one, it will be loved, no matter what the circumstances are. It could be a quadraplegic mentally retarded vegetable, but it will still be my son.
Off to bed.
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