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Adul

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i havent paid to much attention to infighting and what not on atot.

Anycase, maybe a post limit in ATOT would help. say 20 max post in atot? if that is even a feature of fuse talk.
 

BD231

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OT kicks ass. If there were no OT you would see alot more flaming in all the other Topic's. People like to talk, which is why I'm not gonna say much of anything to you N8Magic, blabber on buddy, nothing will come of it but more flaming!
 

Dark4ng3l

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It's not just OT it's every forum on AT. The video and general forums, as well as the overclockign forum is now nothing more than a guge place where tons of random people post the same kind of question 50 times a day. Also the interesting threads like technology depth threads and future generation graphics(thing I remember from the 3dfx days) are gone too. Now it's just a bunch of people that know not much or think they know alot, but dont that post all sorts of the same things over and over and over. The real techies have been deluded into a mass of normal people, the expansion of AT is destroying the comunity, and making it lose it's apeal.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
We agree with you N8
O.T. has degraded into a kiddie forum
Maybe we should just close O.T. altogether

AnandTech Moderator
If that happens, I want a refund.

I could be wrong, but I don't think that closing Off Topic is something that the Moderators would have the authority to do. Zuni or Anand are probably the only people with the required access to FuseTalk's configuration to make such a drastic change to the forums.

But, hey, I've been wrong in the past.
 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: Vespasian
We agree with you N8
O.T. has degraded into a kiddie forum
Maybe we should just close O.T. altogether

AnandTech Moderator
If that happens, I want a refund.

I could be wrong, but I don't think that closing Off Topic is something that the Moderators would have the authority to do. Zuni or Anand are probably the only people with the required access to FuseTalk's configuration to make such a drastic change to the forums.

But, hey, I've been wrong in the past.



Well obviously! I dont think the mods are saying they are going to do it themselves. But I'd imagine if a vast majority of the mod's backed such an idea anand would give it serious thought.
 

mk

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Would it be feasible to divide the OT into separate "Serious" and "Casual" forums? The "Serious" OT would be reserved for political, religious, scientific etc. subject matters and on-topic posting; with only a relatively small amount of active threads (compared to the current Off Topic) perhaps a more strict code of conduct could be enforced. The bulk of the current Off Topic discussion would take place in the "Casual" forum.
 

Red Dawn

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I've been insulting idiots here for 4 years trying to get them to leave but they just won't take a hint!! In fact they all go back to their AOL Chatrooms and bring more like them back:)

There's plenty of Cool Forums that are Offshoots of this place. I can think of 3 right off the bast. Rallispec, SWF and Paulsons. If this place makes your bowels run you could always skip over to one of those places.
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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Ultimatebob, actually I believe it's something the AT Administrator(The AT Admin is a seperate person from Anand/Zuni) can do. I seem to recall them creating another forum awhile back.
 

tcsenter

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By "can't we all just get along" you wouldn't perhaps mean "can't everyone just agree with my view of things?"
 

gogeeta13

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I've been insulting idiots here for 4 years trying to get them to leave but they just won't take a hint!! In fact they all go back to their AOL Chatrooms and bring more like them back:)

There's plenty of Cool Forums that are Offshoots of this place. I can think of 3 right off the bast. Rallispec, SWF and Paulsons. If this place makes your bowels run you could always skip over to one of those places.

Red, such the humanitarian ;)
 

Freejack2

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Erm OT is most of the reason I bought a membership. It may be annoying, lame, argumantative or whatever at times but so far it seems like it's a pretty dammned good OT forum.

Mods, closing these forums because of a few people is ridiculous. The OT forum is nowhere near imploding or anything like that.
Everyone needs to calm down. We are making a mountain of a molehill.
 

GrumpyMan

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May 14, 2001
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I kind of see AT Forums as a small city on the internet with 95,000+ residents. The cops that patrol the city are the moderators, they keep order and try to make sure justice prevails for the majority of the residents.
Now what happens when the cops are out numbered or are just overwhelmed is that kaos starts to reign, which in my view is what is starting to happen to this little city. The gangs and rogue residents loose respect for the community and start to burn it down, because they can or are having a bad day. More cops, less crime.
It's not really that bad here, but it could get there. IMHO...........
 

N8Magic

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Dec 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: tcsenter
By "can't we all just get along" you wouldn't perhaps mean "can't everyone just agree with my view of things?"
No, if that was the case why would I ask for ideas on how to make this forum better? :confused:

I enjoy my time here, and I was just expressing my concern... thats all.
 

Martin

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I don't see anything wrong with OT.

People talk, argue. They come and go...

If fact, the only thing that seems not to change is people saying how bad OT is and Red being the elitist xenophobe we all know and love. :)





But pray tell, how would charging for OT make things any better?
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: tcsenter
By "can't we all just get along" you wouldn't perhaps mean "can't everyone just agree with my view of things?"
No, if that was the case why would I ask for ideas on how to make this forum better? :confused:

I enjoy my time here, and I was just expressing my concern... thats all.

How about some specifics? You only talk in general terms and its the same things people have been saying for a long long time.

Is it Jerboy's whiny threads? My posts against religion? The Americans' hatered of all things Europe?
 

Azraele

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Well N8Magic, OT has always sort of been the black sheep in the forum family, but I like it here a lot. The mods do a great job of handling things, though perhaps your thread could help them out a bit by throwing in some new ideas on how to run things. What do you suggest?

Mods Are you serious about shutting it down?
 

Paulson

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Honestly, I think neffing and overabusing the quote system has got to go..

I wont even read a thread if all it does is have 30 <HR> lines in one post because somebody wanted to quote 50 people :|


I don't really think it's that hostile, and maybe I think some members need to find new places to hang out, get some new blood going into other forums and let this one die out a bit then have it make a comeback...

???
 

N8Magic

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Originally posted by: Azraele
Well N8Magic, OT has always sort of been the black sheep in the forum family, but I like it here a lot. The mods do a great job of handling things, though perhaps your thread could help them out a bit by throwing in some new ideas on how to run things. What do you suggest?

Hey, I like it here too don't get me wrong.

I guess the one single thing that bugs me the most is the name calling. Not the "You sir are an idiot. :p" posts, but the ones that are completely irrelevant to the thread and serve no purpose but to piss people off. Why don't these people post THEIR view on the thread? To call someone a *insert favourite derogatory remark here* and then not even try to rebuke their statement/POV is completely useless. You might as well post an empty message in the thread.

I'm all for a good debate, but I draw the line at name calling with nothing of substance to back it up.

IMHO, the best solution would be to create a separate forum just for neffing/flaming. Sure it will take up a lot of bandwidth, but no more than is currently being used for the same purpose in OT.
 

SuperSix

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
We agree with you N8
O.T. has degraded into a kiddie forum
Maybe we should just close O.T. altogether


AnandTech Moderator
If that happens, I want a refund.

It won't happen. I guarantee 90+% of subscribers hang out primarily on OT...

And on the off-chance it does happen, I want a refund too.. Pro-rated of course.. ;)

And to be honest, I don't see a big problem with the forums..
 

Azraele

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IMHO, the best solution would be to create a separate forum just for neffing/flaming. Sure it will take up a lot of bandwidth, but no more than is currently being used for the same purpose in OT.
Interesting proposal, but would it really stop those who go into debate threads just to ruin them?

Also, bandwidth seems to be fairly strained as is, I imagine the free servers would be unbearable if people were neffing up a nef forum.

And would you suggest moderating a flame forum? This is an all ages board.