Warm: Liteon DVD player lvd-2001 $127 - plays DVD, Mpeg4, Xvid

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Slickone

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This will convert a PAL DVD to NTSC (like Apex), correct? Anyone tried this? How's the quality?
 

MisterE

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Originally posted by: Slickone
This will convert a PAL DVD to NTSC (like Apex), correct? Anyone tried this? How's the quality?

I have the same question. I have some PAL format stuff that I want to watch on the TV (instead of on the computer), but my current DVD player doesn't do PAL. I forgot to think about PAL support when I bought this thing (silly me).

E.
 

rutchtkim

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what is macrovision and why should i turn it off? Also, the top protion of the screen is fuzzy. anyone? Also, how do i update firmware?
 

rutchtkim

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anyone know how to determine in which version of divx a movie is encoded in? Is there a way the liteon player can display which version the movie is?

thanks,
tk
 

BKCalvine

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anyone know how to determine in which version of divx a movie is encoded in? Is there a way the liteon player can display which version the movie is?

Yeah, get the GSpot utility to tell you about the codec in which your file is encoded in. If I had a liteon player myself I'd tell you =(

what is macrovision and why should i turn it off?

You don't have to turn it off, but most people would prefer to. Macrovision is a copy protection method for to prevent transfering from DVD to ... something like a VHS tape for example. I believe the people who invented macrovision were from a company called macrovision as well ...

Google the rest. I'm too lazy at the moment :confused:
 

straubs

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Originally posted by: drti
most of the people was right, xbox probably a much better deal. if you don't have a game console yet, then xbox is a better choice. eventhough ps2 has more games than xbox now, but xbox hardware is far more superior than ps2.

anyway, you can go to sam's or costco, buy the xbox, mod, if something wrong, they take it back no problem.

for non-technical people who's doesn't want to mess w/ moding and stuff, then this dvd player is a way to go. plus, lot of people complained about xbox cdr compability problem.

XBOX + dvd kit will cost more, take time to mod, and still not deliver the same ease of use. Also the lite-on will play cds, cd-r, cd-rw, dvd, dvd-r, dvd-rw. I don't think you can say that about the xbox. I think the xbox doesn't come with component out either. I think the adapter for it costs like $30.

I do like the built-in ethernet port and hard drive on the xbox. If only they would add that to the lite-on, it would be the best thing ever! :)
 

Kogan

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Hi guys, I haven't checked the thread in a while.. But I got mine and I suggest you wait before buying unless you can get a very good deal.
There's quite a few problems:
It looks/feels cheap (especially menus and remote)
problems with many divx files (may be fixed by firmware)
gets hot even when off and no vents for air to get in

Didn't really have any other major problems (s-video worked fine)
The player won't tell you the version of divx that was used to encode the movie


And Apex, thanks for that link! I'll put that in the original message
 

LordAccord

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I've had more problems with TV-Out quality from my PC than the DivX quality itself. That's more in the hands of the encoder. All you people complaining that you can't stand to watch a DivX movie on the television.... I have to ask... what did you ever do before DVD, because my VHS tapes certainly have never stood up to a DivX encode? I mean, at least that's a worthy question, because it doesn't seem to me that the DivX codec was designed to knock DVD MPEG2 out of the circle or anything, let alone with a 700mb file vs a 4gb set.
 

LordAccord

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oh, yeah, NOW I see that whole issues stopped on page 2 and this thread is old. /sigh. Always a day late and a dollar short.
 

GMaximus

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Originally posted by: rutchtkim
anyone know how to determine in which version of divx a movie is encoded in? Is there a way the liteon player can display which version the movie is?

thanks,
tk



Gspot: http://www.headbands.com/gspot/index.html

This tool tells you which audio/video codecs are needed to playback an .avi file, as well as the bitrate of the audio/video. It also displays DivX version numbers.
 

chanfo

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Originally posted by: LordAccord
I've had more problems with TV-Out quality from my PC than the DivX quality itself. That's more in the hands of the encoder. All you people complaining that you can't stand to watch a DivX movie on the television.... I have to ask... what did you ever do before DVD, because my VHS tapes certainly have never stood up to a DivX encode? I mean, at least that's a worthy question, because it doesn't seem to me that the DivX codec was designed to knock DVD MPEG2 out of the circle or anything, let alone with a 700mb file vs a 4gb set.

I think its a matter of what you are used to watching. DVD's look great on my 32" TV but once I got a front projector I'm beginning to see flaws even on DVD's. This is on a 100" screen. Now I can't wait till DVD's go high def.
 

RayH

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Originally posted by: chanfo
Originally posted by: LordAccord
I've had more problems with TV-Out quality from my PC than the DivX quality itself. That's more in the hands of the encoder. All you people complaining that you can't stand to watch a DivX movie on the television.... I have to ask... what did you ever do before DVD, because my VHS tapes certainly have never stood up to a DivX encode? I mean, at least that's a worthy question, because it doesn't seem to me that the DivX codec was designed to knock DVD MPEG2 out of the circle or anything, let alone with a 700mb file vs a 4gb set.

I think its a matter of what you are used to watching. DVD's look great on my 32" TV but once I got a front projector I'm beginning to see flaws even on DVD's. This is on a 100" screen. Now I can't wait till DVD's go high def.

Until DVD's go HD, there are a few interim solutions. You can use a HTPC but a couple new standalone DVD players will now scale to 720p or 1080i with either component or pure digital DVI outputs. Some recent ones are the Bravo D1, Samsung DVD-931 and Momitsu V880. I'm really tempted to order a Momitsu from overseas since they're not available in US yet.
 

BKCalvine

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If anyone is still looking to jump in on this, I found MyPCGoodies through PriceRunner. I decided to order from them despite the fact their ResellerRatings have only one review. They have the option of FedEx / UPS (Ground, 2nd day, etc.) .... and with FedEx Ground the total price is $129.15 + $6.80 = $135.95
 

Jonnses

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anybody know of a cheap place to purchase this player? the total came out to ~$150 at MyPCGoodies (shipped + tax to CA).

thanks,

jon
 

Eyecannon

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I have one of these and it is quite awesome... it plays everything it says and LiteON says they are working on OGM/OGG support!
 

BKCalvine

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Q]If anyone is still looking to jump in on this, I found MyPCGoodies through PriceRunner. I decided to order from them despite the fact their ResellerRatings have only one review. They have the option of FedEx / UPS (Ground, 2nd day, etc.) .... and with FedEx Ground the total price is $129.15 + $6.80 = $135.95 [/quote]

Wow, heh, never quoted myself before.

Anyways, the Fedex shipment via MyPCGoodies was pretty darn quick. I ordered on a Sunday afternoon, received my package Wednesday afternoon.

Aside from all of that, the player has met and nearly exceeded my expectations. As a cheap alternative to the Kiss DP-450/500, I thought this thing would be kind of a POS player that just happened to have MPEG4 support. Maybe I just set my expectations too low ... but nonetheless I'm quite impressed with the punch it packs for all how reasonable it is. It plays everything as advertised and its totally worth it. The only knocks I've got on it so far is that it doesn't support 3rd party add-ons like VobSub (for subtitles) and the 1-2 minute intervals between fast-forwarding and rewinding on MPEG4 files. Definitely a happy consumer and looking forward to the next update.
 

RDMustang1

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Originally posted by: phenderson
Originally posted by: shuan24
Is it really worth $140? I mean, you could easily build a custom "DVD player" for the same price or cheaper, but with all the mods you want. IMHO, I really don't see the advantage in this player, other than the fact that its already built for you. With the custom player you could install all codecs (like FFDshow) and not just watch Divx/Xvid only.

I am going to call you onto the carpet on this one...

Lets see....

$ 40.00 for a cheap or used ATX case. (hopefully with PSU)
$ 50.00 for at least a cheap TV Out, good quality Directx 9 Video card (possibly and Ati-All-in-Wonder)
$ 40.00 for a used or new DVD-R that will play all of the formats
$ 35.00 for at least 256 megs of ram (maybe 25.00 used) to run the OS
$ 20.00 for cheapo used 20.0 gig harddrive
$ 60.00 for used CPU\motherboard combo, presumably and Athlon XP solution (hopefully it comes with HSF)
$ 50.00 for perhaps (just to be legal) Windows 2000 license....

Now lets add labor,
-If you are blessed, it will take 20 minutes to 2 hours to put the system together, another hour to
install OS (harddrive format then OS files copied, then reboot then OS installed then reboot)
-It should take another hour to update the OS and install all of the DiVX and Mpeg 4 codecs
-It should then take another 20 minutes to move the big lug (cheapo cases are big... not SFF or HSF) case then connect the unit.
That sounds like about 5 hours of work to me... and if I go by what most techs could charge, lets say a minimun of $50.00 an hour... welllllllll $250.00 for labor...

Now some other luxuries that will be needed...

$40.00 ATI remote wonder (or pay $75.00 above and substitue video out card with ATI AIW 7500)
$50.00 for wireless keyboard mouse combo...

we have a grand total of
$635.00
WOW.... sounds like some custome made system to me... and it looks ugly sitting next to my entertainment center in "el-cheap" vanilla case... Plus it takes me 10 minutes to boot the sucker, then login to Windows, then place the DVD in the drive and play them....

WOW... $140.00 Liteon looks good right now... in fact it looks awesome!!!

Guess what, I have the exact same system that I mentioned, above... except my parts are higher quality...
And it cost me a ton of money... to put it together, but for what its worth... I can at least play BF1942 on it...

Of course we could subtract the $250.00 for labor and still would have a nice $385.00 DVD player... which still is a little extreme considering most of us probably have $500.00 receivers or less...


One more thing... most everybody knows that 90% of the illegally distributed movies and TV episodes out on the net encode in some form of Mpeg 1(VCD) Mpeg 2(SVCD) or DiVX or Mpeg4. SO there really is not a need for RM...or even QT...

I bought a used p2-333 box (256mb ram, 8gb hdd, video with tv-out) on here for $45 shipped, added a $10 dvdrom I got on here and a $17 logitech cordless kb + mouse.. only thing missing is the remote which I don't care about since I have wireless kb+mouse... total for my dvd box (also use it to rip tv shows) was ~$72 all thanks to the FS/FT forum..
 

Codewiz

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I think when the Xbox price drops again then it will be the ideal solution. Just solder a two points on the motherboard and flash the onboard bios to a hacked bios. Then do as you please.
 

lungster

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Some tidbits...
- LiteOn now has a newer LVD-2002 model. I can't tell what the difference is between the 2001 and 2002. Anyone have an idea ?
- Here is a recent review of the LVD-2001
- Regarding the use of xBox - from what I've read on the net, it seems I don't have the Samsung DVD drive (I think mine is the Philips). The results is that I can't read CD-R audio and DVD+R use is so-so. Even as a DVD player, the drive sometimes hicups. In short, I wouldn't recommend using an xBox for serious media playing unless you know for sure what you're getting in the hardware. And that says nothing about the extra work of having to convert its BIOS
 

straubs

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Originally posted by: lungster

- Regarding the use of xBox - from what I've read on the net, it seems I don't have the Samsung DVD drive (I think mine is the Philips). The results is that I can't read CD-R audio and DVD+R use is so-so. Even as a DVD player, the drive sometimes hicups. In short, I wouldn't recommend using an xBox for serious media playing unless you know for sure what you're getting in the hardware. And that says nothing about the extra work of having to convert its BIOS

 

Dulanic

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Nice player, if I didnt already do all my movies as XSVCD I wouldnt mind picking one up. But no real reason for me too.... I can easily do 1hr per CD with XSVCD as long as its a 16:9 movie... and I can tell you, youd be hard pressed to see much difference between the original DVD and my XSVCD encodes. And my phillips DVD player is awsome when it comes to playing things... itll handle any (x)VCD/(x)SVCD I throw at it.
 

phenderson

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Originally posted by: RDMustang1
Originally posted by: phenderson
Originally posted by: shuan24
Is it really worth $140? I mean, you could easily build a custom "DVD player" for the same price or cheaper, but with all the mods you want. IMHO, I really don't see the advantage in this player, other than the fact that its already built for you. With the custom player you could install all codecs (like FFDshow) and not just watch Divx/Xvid only.

I am going to call you onto the carpet on this one...

Lets see....

$ 40.00 for a cheap or used ATX case. (hopefully with PSU)
$ 50.00 for at least a cheap TV Out, good quality Directx 9 Video card (possibly and Ati-All-in-Wonder)
$ 40.00 for a used or new DVD-R that will play all of the formats
$ 35.00 for at least 256 megs of ram (maybe 25.00 used) to run the OS
$ 20.00 for cheapo used 20.0 gig harddrive
$ 60.00 for used CPU\motherboard combo, presumably and Athlon XP solution (hopefully it comes with HSF)
$ 50.00 for perhaps (just to be legal) Windows 2000 license....

Now lets add labor,
-If you are blessed, it will take 20 minutes to 2 hours to put the system together, another hour to
install OS (harddrive format then OS files copied, then reboot then OS installed then reboot)
-It should take another hour to update the OS and install all of the DiVX and Mpeg 4 codecs
-It should then take another 20 minutes to move the big lug (cheapo cases are big... not SFF or HSF) case then connect the unit.
That sounds like about 5 hours of work to me... and if I go by what most techs could charge, lets say a minimun of $50.00 an hour... welllllllll $250.00 for labor...

Now some other luxuries that will be needed...

$40.00 ATI remote wonder (or pay $75.00 above and substitue video out card with ATI AIW 7500)
$50.00 for wireless keyboard mouse combo...

we have a grand total of
$635.00
WOW.... sounds like some custome made system to me... and it looks ugly sitting next to my entertainment center in "el-cheap" vanilla case... Plus it takes me 10 minutes to boot the sucker, then login to Windows, then place the DVD in the drive and play them....

WOW... $140.00 Liteon looks good right now... in fact it looks awesome!!!

Guess what, I have the exact same system that I mentioned, above... except my parts are higher quality...
And it cost me a ton of money... to put it together, but for what its worth... I can at least play BF1942 on it...

Of course we could subtract the $250.00 for labor and still would have a nice $385.00 DVD player... which still is a little extreme considering most of us probably have $500.00 receivers or less...


One more thing... most everybody knows that 90% of the illegally distributed movies and TV episodes out on the net encode in some form of Mpeg 1(VCD) Mpeg 2(SVCD) or DiVX or Mpeg4. SO there really is not a need for RM...or even QT...

I bought a used p2-333 box (256mb ram, 8gb hdd, video with tv-out) on here for $45 shipped, added a $10 dvdrom I got on here and a $17 logitech cordless kb + mouse.. only thing missing is the remote which I don't care about since I have wireless kb+mouse... total for my dvd box (also use it to rip tv shows) was ~$72 all thanks to the FS/FT forum..


other points to consider.
-Your equipment is probably old, meaning MTBF is small and plus you have no warranties on your stuff so if something dies, money out of your pocket to fix
-the case is not sitting on top of your TV in all of its dusty glory but next to your TV on the floor
-You probably did not add in the cost of the OS (at least $45-150.00) assuming you did not go the illegal "free" route
-You probably have to leave the PC powered on all of the time because startup times with any non-Windows 9x OS would be over a minute
-loud PC with loud DVD-Rom... means loud overall
-No remote means having to punch out this and that on the kb, and having to make room on your coffee table for the kb and ms

I could go on and on....
I have exactly what you have just like 10x more expensive (Ati 9700 pro AIW, Wireless AV, Silver Chieftec Case, AMD Athlon XP 2600). I had always used a wireless keyboard and mouse, but I wanted to keep my unit hidden, which mean storing it in one of my closes maybe 30 feet away. Guess what, the wireless signal would not reach that far. I thought about getting a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but those are wayyyy to expensive. In the end I got the ATI remote with my 9700 Pro AIW, and booooooyyyyyyy what a difference. Works like a charm. And doubles as a mouse as well. And works through walls, over 30 feet away. I can't beat that at all.

 

BKCalvine

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Having done a little bit of searching, I've come to realize there is a lot more variety in MPEG4 DVD players than I thought.

Aside from the XBox, LiteOn LVD-2001/2, and Kiss DP450/500 I found these others:

Daewoo DVDP480 $85
Akai Divx Player DV-PX7000 (Not Released)

I've noticed in these players they have Karaoke inputs, as well as the coaxial out (only for those who have no composite / Svideo input). Might worth looking into.