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Ward's 10 Best Engine's 2005

http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_m...economy_ways/index.htm

No surprise, Nissan's VQ engine makes the list for 11th consequtive time from the list's inception 11 years ago.

Muscle, Economy: Have It Both Ways With Ward?s 10 Best Engines

By Bill Visnic

WardsAuto.com, Dec 8 2004

Cylinder deactivation, gasoline-electric hybridization and advanced diesel technology all are represented by winners on this year?s list.



The winners of Ward?s 10 Best Engines awards for 2005 demonstrate that you can have it all: Many of the winning engines highlight sophisticated new technology that not only improves mileage but also pumps up power.

The 2005 list of the industry?s most exemplary engines marks the 11th year for the Ward?s 10 Best Engines program.

Cylinder deactivation, gasoline-electric hybridization and advanced diesel technology all are represented by winners on this year?s list.

Another important emerging technology that generates more power while also improving fuel economy ? direct gasoline injection ? brings home a win for Audi AG in its first North American application of its all-new ?FSI? 3.2L DOHC V-6. The 255-hp FSI (Fuel Straight Injection) V-6 produces 35 hp more than the engine it replaces, yet delivers as much as 10% better fuel economy. Audi?s direct-injection powerhouse also operates on regular-grade unleaded gasoline.

Cylinder deactivation is another critical new fuel-saving technology featured on two other Ward?s 10 Best Engines winners for 2005.

DaimlerChrysler AG?s now-famous 5.7L ?Hemi? V-8 incorporates the company?s Multi-Displacement System to instantaneously shut down four of the cylinders when not needed. Meanwhile, when the Hemi?s vaunted power is required, MDS immediately reactivates the cylinders to generate the engine?s full 340 hp.

Honda Motor Co. Ltd. also uses its own cylinder-deactivation system ? Variable Cylinder Management ? to boost fuel economy for the new 3L SOHC V-6 used in its Accord Hybrid.

The Hybrid Accord is the first production-car use of cylinder deactivation for an overhead-cam engine. The car also employs Honda?s Integrated Motor Assist hybrid-electric technology to boost power and increase fuel efficiency. While the Accord Hybrid is 15 hp stronger than its traditional-powertrain counterpart, VCM and IMA combine to improve fuel efficiency by a startling 23% on the highway and 38% in city driving.

DaimlerChrysler?s Mercedes-Benz unit wins a Ward?s 10 Best Engines award in the first year of availability of its new CDI 3.2L inline 6-cyl. turbodiesel. As with Audi?s FSI, the Mercedes diesel employs high-tech direct fuel injection and a host of other sophisticated electronic controls to create a diesel engine that generates spectacular torque and almost 40% better fuel economy than a similar-size gasoline 6-cyl.

Power for power?s sake is not forgotten on this year?s list, however. Ford Motor Co. wins with its heavily revised 4.6L SOHC V-8 in the all-new Ford Mustang GT. Ward?s testers praised Ford for creating a refined V-8 that produces 300 hp at an affordable price and called it ?the perfect new-generation muscle-car V-8.?

Honda proves it also ?knows horsepower? with its first-time winner, the Acura 3.5L SOHC V-6. The new V-6 pounds out 300 hp, making it one of the most powerful naturally aspirated 6-cyl. engines in production. The 3.5L V-6 is used in Acura?s all-new RL luxury/sport sedan.

Audi returns for a second year with its smooth and powerful 4.2L DOHC V-8 that generates a thundering 340 hp in a package that seamlessly integrates sophistication and muscle. Audi?s premium V-8 remains one of the market?s most powerful V-8s for its size.

Also returning as a Ward?s 10 Best Engines winner is General Motors Corp.?s Vortec 4.2L DOHC inline 6-cyl., used in its midsize SUVs. The Vortec 4200 enjoys its fourth consecutive year as a 10 Best Engines winner.

Taking its unrivaled 11th consecutive 10 Best Engines trophy is Nissan Motor Co. Ltd.?s 3.5L DOHC V-6. The only engine to win an award every year since the program?s inception, Nissan engineers improved the ?VQ? V-6 with new levels of power and torque for 2005.

Ward?s 10 Best Engines list is completed by Mazda Motor Corp.?s unique Renesis rotary engine. This 1.3L powerhouse returns for a second year fronting the same impressive design advances and spectacular power output, in relation to its size, that virtually guaranteed a win in 2004, its first year of availability.

Ward?s tested 36 car and truck engines for its 2005 10 Best Engines competition, evaluating them based on the crucial engine characteristics of power; torque; noise, vibration and harshness (NVH); technical relevance and basic comparative numbers. All engines nominated and tested were in vehicles with a base price less than $52,500.

The 2005 winners, along with the vehicles they were tested in:

· Audi FSI 3.2L DOHC V-6 (Audi A6)

· Audi 4.2L DOHC V-8 (Audi S4)

· DaimlerChrysler 5.7L Hemi Magnum OHV V-8 (Chrysler 300C)

· DaimlerChrysler 3.2L DOHC I-6 CDI Turbodiesel (Mercedes E320 CDI)

· Ford 4.6L SOHC V-8 (Ford Mustang GT)

· General Motors 4.2L DOHC Vortec I-6 (Chevrolet TrailBlazer)

· Honda 3L SOHC V-6 IMA Hybrid (Honda Accord Hybrid)

· Honda 3.5L SOHC V-6 (Acura RL)

· Mazda 1.3L Renesis rotary (Mazda RX-8)

· Nissan 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Infiniti G35 Coupe)
 
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

238HP out of a 1.3L is a lot. I think the Renesis has to be there as a reward to Mazda for being the only company developing the technology.

 
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

238HP out of a 1.3L is a lot. I think the Renesis has to be there as a reward to Mazda for being the only company developing the technology.

I don't give a sh!t if they get 300HP. The thing is bad on gas, is an oil hog and rotaries have a history of behing mechanical nightmares.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

238HP out of a 1.3L is a lot. I think the Renesis has to be there as a reward to Mazda for being the only company developing the technology.

I don't give a sh!t if they get 300HP. The thing is bad on gas, is an oil hog and rotaries have a history of behing mechanical nightmares.

You don't, but apparently the world does since it showed up on the list.
 
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

238HP out of a 1.3L is a lot. I think the Renesis has to be there as a reward to Mazda for being the only company developing the technology.

I don't give a sh!t if they get 300HP. The thing is bad on gas, is an oil hog and rotaries have a history of behing mechanical nightmares.

You don't, but apparently the world does since it showed up on the list.

Not the world, Wards 😛

As much as I love the 3rd gen RX7, I'd never want to own one simply b/c of the engine.
 
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

238HP out of a 1.3L is a lot. I think the Renesis has to be there as a reward to Mazda for being the only company developing the technology.

1.3L but one cilinder it is a diffrent kind of engine do your homework
And Audi got the best engine out there
 
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

238HP out of a 1.3L is a lot. I think the Renesis has to be there as a reward to Mazda for being the only company developing the technology.

Who cares how many liters it has? It's not fuel efficient and underpowered for how much gas it burns. If an engine makes 240 hp and 160 torque and got 24/18 mileage, that's not a best engine in this day and age. That spot should be given to LS6.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

238HP out of a 1.3L is a lot. I think the Renesis has to be there as a reward to Mazda for being the only company developing the technology.

I don't give a sh!t if they get 300HP. The thing is bad on gas, is an oil hog and rotaries have a history of behing mechanical nightmares.

You don't, but apparently the world does since it showed up on the list.

Not the world, Wards 😛

As much as I love the 3rd gen RX7, I'd never want to own one simply b/c of the engine.

I agree it is unreliable. But you gotta agree that it is technologically innovative.

I mean I personally would not buy one either, but it is impressive to get that much power out of that engine.
 
The two motors that impress me the most are both from daimler-chrysler. The Hemi is a great "American" motor while the diesel is just the best of both worlds .. powerful and economical. That benz gets almost 30/40 mpg
 
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

238HP out of a 1.3L is a lot. I think the Renesis has to be there as a reward to Mazda for being the only company developing the technology.

Who cares how many liters it has? It's not fuel efficient and underpowered for how much gas it burns. If an engine makes 240 hp and 160 torque and got 24/18 mileage, that's not a best engine in this day and age. That spot should be given to LS6.

Yup Yup. They just gave it the award b/c it's "different"

Edmunds:

RX-8

Current Odometer: 13,412
Best Fuel Economy: 19.7 mpg
Worst Fuel Economy: 13.2 mpg
Average Fuel Economy (over the life of the vehicle): 17.6 mpg

The BEST they could get was 19.7. What a flippin' joke.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

Why kick the Mustang GT engine off the island? 300hp out of a naturally aspirated single overhead cam engine is pretty good if you ask me.

Edit-I would certainly expect the Subaru 2.5l boxer engine in the STi to be on that list though. 😉
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

Why kick the Mustang GT engine off the island? 300hp out of a naturally aspirated single overhead cam engine is pretty good if you ask me.

Hell, the Audi 4.2 makes 340, but I'd still kick it's ass off. 😀

Where the hell are the BMW engines at? The M5 V10 or the 3.0 liter I6??
 
I'm a Dodge fan, but I think GM's LS1/2/6 should be there. That's one versitile engine. Most of the "Best Engine" results can usually be renamed "Most Complex" or "Most Buzzworded".

As far as the rotary engines are concerned, 1.3L is VERY misleading. 1.3L only counts one third of each rotor. It's effectively a 4L engine because each rotor is in more than one part of the combustion cycle.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

Why kick the Mustang GT engine off the island? 300hp out of a naturally aspirated single overhead cam engine is pretty good if you ask me.

Hell, the Audi 4.2 makes 340, but I'd still kick it's ass off. 😀

Where the hell are the BMW engines at? The M5 V10 or the 3.0 liter I6??

That's a DOHC engine though. I bet that thing costs bank too. The Ford engine is on there because it is powerful but not overly expensive.
 
My best engine list (in no particular order):
WRX STI engine
Evo engine
SRT-4 engine
Cummins 600
LS1/2/6
Hemi
Prius engine+motor setup
Porche Carrera GT engine
Ford GT engine
McLaren/Mercedes SLR engine

These engines were designed with a good purpose, and do the job phenomenally well. Even though I know a few of them are well out of our realities.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either.

Agreed. With its high weight (surprisingly big and heavy, despite marketing literature), inability to hit advertised hp numbers, low torque, and thirst for gas & oil, it's only good as a curiosity. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

Why kick the Mustang GT engine off the island? 300hp out of a naturally aspirated single overhead cam engine is pretty good if you ask me.

Hell, the Audi 4.2 makes 340, but I'd still kick it's ass off. 😀

Where the hell are the BMW engines at? The M5 V10 or the 3.0 liter I6??

Yeah, the new M5 engine should definitely be up there.

As much as I love the RX-8, its engine definitely needs improvement. Kudos to Mazda for working on the technology, but just being unique isn't enough. They need to make it better.

Anyone know if the Mazdaspeed 6 engine (270 HP out of a 2.3 L flat-four) is out of development yet? I definitely think that should be a contender if it meets up to what Mazda promises.
 
Originally posted by: Aleksandar
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: NFS4
The Renesis doesn't deserve to be on there. Drinks gas and oil and ain't all that powerful either. Mustang GT engine, kick it's ass off the list too. Same for the Audi 4.2

238HP out of a 1.3L is a lot. I think the Renesis has to be there as a reward to Mazda for being the only company developing the technology.

1.3L but one cilinder it is a diffrent kind of engine do your homework
And Audi got the best engine out there
It doesn't use any cylinders.

The Hemi may be a great engine, but not because of the way its combustion chambers are shaped.
 
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
My best engine list (in no particular order):
WRX STI engine
Evo engine
SRT-4 engine
Cummins 600
LS1/2/6
Hemi
Prius engine+motor setup
Porche Carrera GT engine
Ford GT engine
McLaren/Mercedes SLR engine

These engines were designed with a good purpose, and do the job phenomenally well. Even though I know a few of them are well out of our realities.

The cummins 600 is a hoss of a truck motor. And it's only getting stronger and cleaner. They managed to really jack up the power and meet future california standards in the process.

STI/Evo/SRT-4 are great examples of how to get alot of power out of little motors.
 
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