War is just wrong

RobCur

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What are we fighting for? fame? fortune? brags right? or just to show off who is tougher? what's the point? The world have gone mad ever since humans have existed, even during prehistoric times they enjoy clubbing each other to death. I guess history does repeat itself until most are dead. The more people on earth, the more problems we have. That is just so sad but I think the world needs to be united so that we can all live in peace.
 

Taejin

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your post is marginally interesting, but your thread title deserves a healthy:

STFU
 

HombrePequeno

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Do you live on some hippy commune or something? Between this thread and the one where you proclaim to hate money, I'm starting to wonder if you're a moron or you're just a troll.
 

stratman

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well, some species of money/chimpanzee do it too, so...

all the cool kids are doing it.
 

dahunan

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yes, the most violent animal species are also the most intelligent...

Nice.. huh... Chimpanzees also Murder their own kind and terrorize each other JUST LIKE WE DO :(

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Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction...The chain reaction of evil...hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars... must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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NightCrawler

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Peace and Prosperity for all !!!

Those Death Rays are pretty cool though and I would like a Plasma Canon, you know just for home security and hunting rabbits. :)
 

Kibbo

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Ant colonies often wage war on each other for territory and choice Aphid breeding grounds. Not reserved for Primates.
 

Kibbo

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Originally posted by: mhillary
Good to know someone out there thinks the same as I do.

Oh my god, 10$ says mhillary and Robcur is the same person. Same retarded posting style. RobCur starts posts with idiocy, and hillary replys to them.
 

conjur

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Gotta keep the military-industrial complex bottom lines healthy in some way. Peace ain't gonna do that.
 

DotheDamnTHing

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all those who remark that animals do it...thats fine but hopefully we realize that we have the ability to use reason to avoid war....what is war but the exercise of irrational sentiments like hate, violence etc?
 

Kibbo

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Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing
all those who remark that animals do it...thats fine but hopefully we realize that we have the ability to use reason to avoid war....what is war but the exercise of irrational sentiments like hate, violence etc?

Wasn't an attempt to justify war, merely criticize the OPs self-hating antropocentric view of it.
 
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Originally posted by: RobCur
What are we fighting for? fame? fortune? brags right? or just to show off who is tougher? what's the point? The world have gone mad ever since humans have existed, even during prehistoric times they enjoy clubbing each other to death. I guess history does repeat itself until most are dead. The more people on earth, the more problems we have. That is just so sad but I think the world needs to be united so that we can all live in peace.

The world needs to be FREE so we can all live in peace. War as such isn't wrong or right, it's a tool used to achieve certain ends. If those ends are good, the war is Just. If those ends are evil, the war is unjust.

You're trying to look for a unilateral answer to the whole War question; there isn't one.

Jason
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: RobCur
What are we fighting for? fame? fortune? brags right? or just to show off who is tougher? what's the point? The world have gone mad ever since humans have existed, even during prehistoric times they enjoy clubbing each other to death. I guess history does repeat itself until most are dead. The more people on earth, the more problems we have. That is just so sad but I think the world needs to be united so that we can all live in peace.

The world needs to be FREE so we can all live in peace. War as such isn't wrong or right, it's a tool used to achieve certain ends. If those ends are good, the war is Just. If those ends are evil, the war is unjust.

You're trying to look for a unilateral answer to the whole War question; there isn't one.

Jason

I bet Charles Manson agrees.

 

Rainsford

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Interesting. If we are arguing that war is wrong, then engaging in war, even if self-defense, must also be wrong. I find it difficult to believe that people hold this to be an ethical view.
 
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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: RobCur
What are we fighting for? fame? fortune? brags right? or just to show off who is tougher? what's the point? The world have gone mad ever since humans have existed, even during prehistoric times they enjoy clubbing each other to death. I guess history does repeat itself until most are dead. The more people on earth, the more problems we have. That is just so sad but I think the world needs to be united so that we can all live in peace.

The world needs to be FREE so we can all live in peace. War as such isn't wrong or right, it's a tool used to achieve certain ends. If those ends are good, the war is Just. If those ends are evil, the war is unjust.

You're trying to look for a unilateral answer to the whole War question; there isn't one.

Jason

I bet Charles Manson agrees.

What a completely unclever, pointless argument. I'd expect better from anyone other than Conjur.

Jason
 

EndGame

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As long as humans inhabit the earth.......there will be wars. They may change in the weaponry used, but, they will persist.

Just as Einstein said......(or something to this effect...)

If there is a WWIII, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones.

And sadly, I imagine eventually, this will happen....

EDIT: Had to correct my use of Roman numerals......
 

Yellow Dog

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War is the greatest failure of mankind. GW Bush has started a war based on lies. What does that say about that fool?
 

Starbuck1975

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War is the greatest failure of mankind. GW Bush has started a war based on lies. What does that say about that fool?
Or an extension that links us to our natural state. Even within the animal kingdom, you will discover acts of violence both within and across different species...the only distinction being that in the animal kingdom, it is often a question of survival...amazing that despite our supposed intelligence, our base instincts often dictate our behavior.
 

chrisms

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War is natural. One group of people want things one way, the other wants it their way. When both fail to compromise, one will try to force the other into submission. There is really no avoiding it until the world is in complete agreement over everything, or until everybody has nukes and extremists become not-so-extreme.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: RobCur
What are we fighting for? fame? fortune? brags right? or just to show off who is tougher? what's the point? The world have gone mad ever since humans have existed, even during prehistoric times they enjoy clubbing each other to death. I guess history does repeat itself until most are dead. The more people on earth, the more problems we have. That is just so sad but I think the world needs to be united so that we can all live in peace.

You know, I'd pose some questions in my reply, but since you never actually come back to address posts in the flame-threads you create, what's the point?
 
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Originally posted by: Yellow Dog
War is the greatest failure of mankind. GW Bush has started a war based on lies. What does that say about that fool?

War is terrible, but it isn't necessarily a *failure*. Sometimes war is waged for good ends (self defense, the liberation of the oppressed, etc.) while other times it is waged for evil ends (to conquer, to steal, to destroy). There is no unilateral answer to "war is good/War is evil". War is TERRIBLE unilaterally, but by itself it is neither good nor evil.

Jason
 

Rhin0

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We all thought war was great. You changed our minds on the issue and changed our lives forever.

Thanks.