war hitting close to home...

[Optimus]

but if anyone ever told me that they're sorry for my loss or anything along those lines, I'd call them a fvcking liar.

Empathy.

Empathy is when you can 'feel' what others are likely feeling. Empathy is a necessary and good human emotion.

Why do you lack it so dramatically? I'm seriously asking as you are part of a new generation that is far and wide massively lacking in empathy...

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bowmaster
I have an idea - let's send loki8481 to "a better place". Why are you wasting your time on Earth when Heavens the place to be - you should be in Iraq trying to convert those heathens. Maybe you can meet your God a lot quicker that way...

Imagine an Army of those like loki8481 who didn't fear for their lives because they knew they were going to a better place? It would be just like those Islamic Facist we are fighting now

Hardly the same thing. Just because one doesn't fear for their life, and realizes that their loved ones are in a better place now, does not mean they are willing to KILL OTHERS WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR BELIEF.


There is a big difference Red Dawn, think before you open you big mouth and start bashing Christians as usual.

Just because he claims to be a Christian and I criticize him for his callous statement regarding the person who perished doesn't mean that I am criticizing all Christians, just ignorant muddle minded fsctards like the two of you.

I think you need to go back and re-read your original post. You compared Loki (Someone who doesn't fear for his life) to terrorists who go out of their way to kill others who do not have the same belief as themsevles. Big difference. If you fail to see that you are more of a moron than I originally thought.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: loki8481
I see your point, Skoorb, but there's a huge difference between being happy about something and simply not being sad about it.

You would be sad if your family was all killed. And if not, you'd at least be sad if your car and your house and all possessions were burned and/or stolen. And, if you really wouldn't feel sad at either one, then you are not entirely human.

it's been awhile since I lost anyone close, but yeah, I would probably be sad... but if anyone ever told me that they're sorry for my loss or anything along those lines, I'd call them a fvcking liar.

I can't stand to pay you any more attention, but I at least want to know... seriously... how old are you and how close are/were you with your parents ? Are they empathic people ? Did they pay you much attention ?

Those who do not want to care or show emotion should at least have the respect to stay out of this thread rather than posting and basically saying.. boohoo who-gives-a-rats-ass... how old are you ?

 

[pcmodem]

Tell me about it.

My brother's in Iraq, been there for about a year.

He's an a--h-le, but doesn't deserve to die, get burnt and hung from a bridge like a pinata.



Cheers, :beer:
PCM

 

[EXman]

"My son was where he should be, doing what he was trained to do," said Thomas Kolm, 55, who saw action in Vietnam three decades after his own father fought in Japan during World War II. "He was hard- core; this is what he wanted to dedicate his life to."

I hope some of you peeps let those words sink in when you think about making stupid comments about the war in Iraq.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bowmaster
I have an idea - let's send loki8481 to "a better place". Why are you wasting your time on Earth when Heavens the place to be - you should be in Iraq trying to convert those heathens. Maybe you can meet your God a lot quicker that way...

Imagine an Army of those like loki8481 who didn't fear for their lives because they knew they were going to a better place? It would be just like those Islamic Facist we are fighting now

Hardly the same thing. Just because one doesn't fear for their life, and realizes that their loved ones are in a better place now, does not mean they are willing to KILL OTHERS WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR BELIEF.


There is a big difference Red Dawn, think before you open you big mouth and start bashing Christians as usual.

Just because he claims to be a Christian and I criticize him for his callous statement regarding the person who perished doesn't mean that I am criticizing all Christians, just ignorant muddle minded fsctards like the two of you.

I think you need to go back and re-read your original post. You compared Loki (Someone who doesn't fear for his life) to terrorists who go out of their way to kill others who do not have the same belief as themsevles. Big difference. If you fail to see that you are more of a moron than I originally thought.

You see that's the problem, what you believe is thinking is just you spouting nonsensical drivel. It's a valid comparison as I made no mention of the reasons they were fighting
only that they weren't afraid to die..at least so they claim.

 

[Wozster]

It looks like he was a good man

My condolences

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bowmaster
I have an idea - let's send loki8481 to "a better place". Why are you wasting your time on Earth when Heavens the place to be - you should be in Iraq trying to convert those heathens. Maybe you can meet your God a lot quicker that way...

Imagine an Army of those like loki8481 who didn't fear for their lives because they knew they were going to a better place? It would be just like those Islamic Facist we are fighting now

Hardly the same thing. Just because one doesn't fear for their life, and realizes that their loved ones are in a better place now, does not mean they are willing to KILL OTHERS WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR BELIEF.


There is a big difference Red Dawn, think before you open you big mouth and start bashing Christians as usual.

Just because he claims to be a Christian and I criticize him for his callous statement regarding the person who perished doesn't mean that I am criticizing all Christians, just ignorant muddle minded fsctards like the two of you.

I think you need to go back and re-read your original post. You compared Loki (Someone who doesn't fear for his life) to terrorists who go out of their way to kill others who do not have the same belief as themsevles. Big difference. If you fail to see that you are more of a moron than I originally thought.

You see that's the problem, what you believe is thinking is just you spouting nonsensical drivel. It's a valid comparison as I made no mention of the reasons they were fighting
only that they weren't afraid to die..at least so they claim.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a 2 year old. The reason we are fighting them is because they are killing innocent people, not because they are afraid to die. Sheesh!

 

[nageov3t]

my last comment in this thread. I'm really not a bad person, and I'll respect your wishes for me to stay out of it... just stop posting comments that require a reply from me I had planned on stepping out the first time someone asked me to.

I can't stand to pay you any more attention, but I at least want to know... seriously... how old are you and how close are/were you with your parents ? Are they empathic people ? Did they pay you much attention ?

22. my parents are good people. pot-smoking hippies, even. we're not close, but there are issues behind that... things were said that can never be taken back, on both are parts. but they supported me financially through high school, and I've been living at home since college graduation and they've yet to kick me out. so no complaints from me about them.

I don't think that my issue boils down to a lack of empathy, but morally, my guiding principal has always been to treat others the way I wish to be treated. I would never want anyone to feel sorry for me, so I'll never feel sorry for anyone else. It's not an act of malice, it's an act of respect. I respect people enough to assume that they don't need my pity to get through the day. on a personal level, I don't see death as a big deal, but it took a lot of tragedy and contemplation for me to get to that point; and I would never impose my beliefs on others, especially with something to intimate.

anyways, I'm done with this thread. sorry if my attitudes came across poorly. a lot of my posts were made from work, where I'm never in the best of moods to begin with

 

[zillafurby]

Originally posted by: rh71
link another

He was to be the future brother-in-law of a buddy/coworker of mine... you hear about all these soldiers being killed in Iraq and it just doesn't fully register until it hits so close you can practically feel the family's pain.

Personal account of what happened:

some marines were ambushed and were being pinned down, his unit was called in to rescue them. he was laying down cover fire while the trapped marines made it out and his vehicle was hit by an rpg

well im sure he liked the paycheck all the same.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: loki8481
eh. I just don't see the big deal.

blame it on me being a Christian.

they're in a better place; the only saddness we're feeling is for ourselves, and I'm not really down with that.

How do you know the soldiers were also Christian?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: loki8481
eh. I just don't see the big deal.

blame it on me being a Christian.

they're in a better place; the only saddness we're feeling is for ourselves, and I'm not really down with that.

You're a perfect example of how faith sometimes requires the lack of a brain.

I guess. I've always believed in an afterlife, and I've lost a lot of people who were close to me. But I figure, if they're in heaven, why should I allow myself the luxery of feeling sorry for my loss?

What if they're in hell?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bowmaster
I have an idea - let's send loki8481 to "a better place". Why are you wasting your time on Earth when Heavens the place to be - you should be in Iraq trying to convert those heathens. Maybe you can meet your God a lot quicker that way...

Imagine an Army of those like loki8481 who didn't fear for their lives because they knew they were going to a better place? It would be just like those Islamic Facist we are fighting now

Hardly the same thing. Just because one doesn't fear for their life, and realizes that their loved ones are in a better place now, does not mean they are willing to KILL OTHERS WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR BELIEF.


There is a big difference Red Dawn, think before you open you big mouth and start bashing Christians as usual.

Just because he claims to be a Christian and I criticize him for his callous statement regarding the person who perished doesn't mean that I am criticizing all Christians, just ignorant muddle minded fsctards like the two of you.

I actually have to take Red Dawn's side on this one, Red made a very good point. He wasn't bashing Christianity, just religious fanaticism.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bowmaster
I have an idea - let's send loki8481 to "a better place". Why are you wasting your time on Earth when Heavens the place to be - you should be in Iraq trying to convert those heathens. Maybe you can meet your God a lot quicker that way...

Imagine an Army of those like loki8481 who didn't fear for their lives because they knew they were going to a better place? It would be just like those Islamic Facist we are fighting now

Hardly the same thing. Just because one doesn't fear for their life, and realizes that their loved ones are in a better place now, does not mean they are willing to KILL OTHERS WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR BELIEF.


There is a big difference Red Dawn, think before you open you big mouth and start bashing Christians as usual.

Just because he claims to be a Christian and I criticize him for his callous statement regarding the person who perished doesn't mean that I am criticizing all Christians, just ignorant muddle minded fsctards like the two of you.

I actually have to take Red Dawn's side on this one, Red made a very good point. He wasn't bashing Christianity, just religious fanaticism.

Its not being fanatic about the religion that causes the problem, its hurting others because they don't believe in your religion.


And I know alot of people, not just christians, that believe when someone dies they are in a better place, and even though they are sad, they know its for the better.



There is a massive difference between that, and muslims that kill others in the name of their religion. Im sorry, but its comparing apples to earthquakes.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: loki8481
eh. I just don't see the big deal.

blame it on me being a Christian.

they're in a better place; the only saddness we're feeling is for ourselves, and I'm not really down with that.

You, Sir, are not a Christian.

Indeed, and you are disgracing other Christians.

I wish his family the best, and they should be proud of him.

 

[SilentZero]

My prayers go out to his family for their loss. Its terriable when soldiers loose their lives, and its something the entire country should be mourning. Ive personally lost fellow soldiers during my years of army service, so I know how hard it is. Hopefully this senseless death will come to an end soon.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bowmaster
I have an idea - let's send loki8481 to "a better place". Why are you wasting your time on Earth when Heavens the place to be - you should be in Iraq trying to convert those heathens. Maybe you can meet your God a lot quicker that way...

Imagine an Army of those like loki8481 who didn't fear for their lives because they knew they were going to a better place? It would be just like those Islamic Facist we are fighting now

Hardly the same thing. Just because one doesn't fear for their life, and realizes that their loved ones are in a better place now, does not mean they are willing to KILL OTHERS WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR BELIEF.


There is a big difference Red Dawn, think before you open you big mouth and start bashing Christians as usual.

Just because he claims to be a Christian and I criticize him for his callous statement regarding the person who perished doesn't mean that I am criticizing all Christians, just ignorant muddle minded fsctards like the two of you.

I think you need to go back and re-read your original post. You compared Loki (Someone who doesn't fear for his life) to terrorists who go out of their way to kill others who do not have the same belief as themsevles. Big difference. If you fail to see that you are more of a moron than I originally thought.

You see that's the problem, what you believe is thinking is just you spouting nonsensical drivel. It's a valid comparison as I made no mention of the reasons they were fighting
only that they weren't afraid to die..at least so they claim.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a 2 year old. The reason we are fighting them is because they are killing innocent people, not because they are afraid to die. Sheesh!

Once again Numbnuts you bring up something that I wasn't addressing. I never said that we are fighting them because they weren't afraid to die. In fact I never even brought up why we are fighting them. What I did say is that loki8481 has similar beliefs as the supporters Islamic Jihadists regarding dieing in combat and going to a better place .

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bowmaster
I have an idea - let's send loki8481 to "a better place". Why are you wasting your time on Earth when Heavens the place to be - you should be in Iraq trying to convert those heathens. Maybe you can meet your God a lot quicker that way...

Imagine an Army of those like loki8481 who didn't fear for their lives because they knew they were going to a better place? It would be just like those Islamic Facist we are fighting now

Hardly the same thing. Just because one doesn't fear for their life, and realizes that their loved ones are in a better place now, does not mean they are willing to KILL OTHERS WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR BELIEF.


There is a big difference Red Dawn, think before you open you big mouth and start bashing Christians as usual.

Just because he claims to be a Christian and I criticize him for his callous statement regarding the person who perished doesn't mean that I am criticizing all Christians, just ignorant muddle minded fsctards like the two of you.

I think you need to go back and re-read your original post. You compared Loki (Someone who doesn't fear for his life) to terrorists who go out of their way to kill others who do not have the same belief as themsevles. Big difference. If you fail to see that you are more of a moron than I originally thought.

You see that's the problem, what you believe is thinking is just you spouting nonsensical drivel. It's a valid comparison as I made no mention of the reasons they were fighting
only that they weren't afraid to die..at least so they claim.

Arguing with you is like arguing with a 2 year old. The reason we are fighting them is because they are killing innocent people, not because they are afraid to die. Sheesh!

Once again Numbnuts you bring up something that I wasn't addressing. I never said that we are fighting them because they weren't afraid to die. In fact I never even brought up why we are fighting them. What I did say is that loki8481 has similar beliefs as the supporters Islamic Jihadists regarding dieing in combat and going to a better place .

Its not what you said, its what you implied. We all know you were trying to show how people who are passionate about their religion are all evil and have no place on this earth. You compared a person who believes there is a better life after this, to terrorists which we are fighting.


Why didn't you compare him to some group more peaceful that believes in an afterlife? Simple, you wanted to insult Christians like usual. Quit trying to back out of this, we all know what you were saying. You have a one track mind, and a pretty lame one at that. Get a clue, and then a life.

 

[tantos]

I nominate the troll for DIPSH*T of the year.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Once again Numbnuts you bring up something that I wasn't addressing. I never said that we are fighting them because they weren't afraid to die. In fact I never even brought up why we are fighting them. What I did say is that loki8481 has similar beliefs as the supporters Islamic Jihadists regarding dieing in combat and going to a better place .

Its not what you said, its what you implied. We all know you were trying to show how people who are passionate about their religion are all evil and have no place on this earth. You compared a person who believes there is a better life after this, to terrorists which we are fighting.

So the Islamic Martyrs who believe when they die in battle that seven Virgins will be waiting for them in Heavan do not consider that a better place than the sh!thole where they are living now?

Why didn't you compare him to some group more peaceful that believes in an afterlife? Simple, you wanted to insult Christians like usual. Quit trying to back out of this, we all know what you were saying. You have a one track mind, and a pretty lame one at that. Get a clue, and then a life.

Yeah right, as some kid who is still sucking on his mothers tit you actually have a clue about "getting a life"

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: loki8481
I see your point, Skoorb, but there's a huge difference between being happy about something and simply not being sad about it.

You would be sad if your family was all killed. And if not, you'd at least be sad if your car and your house and all possessions were burned and/or stolen. And, if you really wouldn't feel sad at either one, then you are not entirely human.

it's been awhile since I lost anyone close, but yeah, I would probably be sad... but if anyone ever told me that they're sorry for my loss or anything along those lines, I'd call them a fvcking liar.

Ok, I was kinda maybe sorta seeing your point with your whole "Why be selfish and feel sorry for myself over their death?"

But now I think you're just messed up.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Once again Numbnuts you bring up something that I wasn't addressing. I never said that we are fighting them because they weren't afraid to die. In fact I never even brought up why we are fighting them. What I did say is that loki8481 has similar beliefs as the supporters Islamic Jihadists regarding dieing in combat and going to a better place .

Its not what you said, its what you implied. We all know you were trying to show how people who are passionate about their religion are all evil and have no place on this earth. You compared a person who believes there is a better life after this, to terrorists which we are fighting.


Why didn't you compare him to some group more peaceful that believes in an afterlife? Simple, you wanted to insult Christians like usual. Quit trying to back out of this, we all know what you were saying. You have a one track mind, and a pretty lame one at that. Get a clue, and then a life.[/quote]Face it, Red Dawn is right.

It is the belief that you will go to a better place that furthers their will to do the things that they do.

I mean, uh.. If the holy book said you're going to rott in a firey pit with a bunch of guys sticking their horns up your ass if you kill those who do not believe as you do, do you think they would do it with such intestinal fortitude?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Once again Numbnuts you bring up something that I wasn't addressing. I never said that we are fighting them because they weren't afraid to die. In fact I never even brought up why we are fighting them. What I did say is that loki8481 has similar beliefs as the supporters Islamic Jihadists regarding dieing in combat and going to a better place .

Its not what you said, its what you implied. We all know you were trying to show how people who are passionate about their religion are all evil and have no place on this earth. You compared a person who believes there is a better life after this, to terrorists which we are fighting.


Why didn't you compare him to some group more peaceful that believes in an afterlife? Simple, you wanted to insult Christians like usual. Quit trying to back out of this, we all know what you were saying. You have a one track mind, and a pretty lame one at that. Get a clue, and then a life.

Face it, Red Dawn is right.

It is the belief that you will go to a better place that furthers their will to do the things that they do.

I mean, uh.. If the holy book said you're going to rott in a firey pit with a bunch of guys sticking their horns up your ass if you kill those who do not believe as you do, do you think they would do it with such intestinal fortitude?

[/quote]
The idiot bases his whole criticism and what he thinks I meant, not what I actually said.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Once again Numbnuts you bring up something that I wasn't addressing. I never said that we are fighting them because they weren't afraid to die. In fact I never even brought up why we are fighting them. What I did say is that loki8481 has similar beliefs as the supporters Islamic Jihadists regarding dieing in combat and going to a better place .

Its not what you said, its what you implied. We all know you were trying to show how people who are passionate about their religion are all evil and have no place on this earth. You compared a person who believes there is a better life after this, to terrorists which we are fighting.


Why didn't you compare him to some group more peaceful that believes in an afterlife? Simple, you wanted to insult Christians like usual. Quit trying to back out of this, we all know what you were saying. You have a one track mind, and a pretty lame one at that. Get a clue, and then a life.

Face it, Red Dawn is right.

It is the belief that you will go to a better place that furthers their will to do the things that they do.

I mean, uh.. If the holy book said you're going to rott in a firey pit with a bunch of guys sticking their horns up your ass if you kill those who do not believe as you do, do you think they would do it with such intestinal fortitude?

The idiot bases his whole criticism and what he thinks I meant, not what I actually said.[/quote]

Im done arguing with you, no matter what I say you will still maintain that you were in the right. I got an idea, why don't you go back to the million other threads you post in, and look for some more topics that you can bash Christianity in. Thats what your good at it seems, so don't let me stop you. Lamer.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Im done arguing with you, no matter what I say you will still maintain that you were in the right. I got an idea, why don't you go back to the million other threads you post in, and look for some more topics that you can bash Christianity in. Thats what your good at it seems, so don't let me stop you. Lamer.

Who are you talking to?