Wall Street Journal provides evidence Trump is a "fake president"

[shortylickens]

Does the rawstory article state that the WSJ branded him, as we see in the title? firewall blocks rawstory for some reason. Surely WSJ has the last word on WSJ branding either way.

Doesnt matter. Wall Street Journal blocks the article too.
You gotta pay.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

He's probably not fake per se, but in a sense they are correct because the office of the president holds no real power. DC is fundamentally and fatally broken. They are bickering over a healthcare bill that does absolutely nothing to actually fix what is broken in healthcare, namely medical monopoly pricing and all the other things that Karl Denninger rants about and no one but him even talks about. Between that and all these judges that block and stall the enforcement of simple black letter law such as 8 U.S. Code § 1182, it is clear that we have no functioning government. It is just a giant rats nest of stonwalling that serves to filter out all but the actions desired by a few large corporations.

The only real power the president holds is the ability to rally the people to vote out this scum in congress, and to do his small part in getting judges in there who dont legislate from the bench. But to what end? As I said his healthcare bill is useless and pointless. Is he going to stop healthy americans from being forced to pay the medical expenses of fat carb and sugar munching couch cows who rack up a million dollars in medical expenses due solely to their laziness and carb addiction? No. Is he going to drain the medical establishment swamp that came up with this bullcrap food pyramid that encourages people to eat this garbage that sickens them over time? No. Then he fixes nothing.

The President has vast amounts of power. He has an independent branch which is not subject to control by the other two except in cases of gross violation of the Constitution and uses EOs as he wishes. The Administrative branch has used administrative orders with the weight of law. If Trump had no power we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

[sm625]

The President has vast amounts of power. He has an independent branch which is not subject to control by the other two except in cases of gross violation of the Constitution and uses EOs as he wishes. The Administrative branch has used administrative orders with the weight of law. If Trump had no power we wouldn't be having this conversation.

FIFY "The President has vast amounts of power. He has an independent branch which is not subject to control by the other two except in cases where any petty bought-off judge can block his executive orders on no basis or legal precedent with the only purpose being to delay the process in the courts."

 

[Jhhnn]

A huge portion of "the Right" refused to vote for Trump. He had a greater disconnect with the right than any other Republican in recent memory. A bunch of gullible "reality" TV-watching people that typically vote Democrat helped elect Trump. I know at least a few of them. He would have lost without them.

I agree: Those that continue to support him need to wake up. The man is a walking lie.

Yeh, that explains his overwhelming victory in the Repub primaries, right?

Repubs built this with decades of relentless agitprop & bitter negativity to radicalize & crazify their base. Trump or somebody like him is he natural consequence of those efforts.

It's not like he hasn't staffed his cabinet with right wing stalwarts, either.

What you offer is the same sort of bullshit like "Barney Frank caused the housing bubble." Trump is your baby, Repubs- Rosemary's baby, all grown up.

 

[fskimospy]

FIFY "The President has vast amounts of power. He has an independent branch which is not subject to control by the other two except in cases where any petty bought-off judge can block his executive orders on no basis or legal precedent with the only purpose being to delay the process in the courts."

Except of course in this case there was both basis and legal precedent. That's why it was upheld on appeal as well.

So yes, the president has vast power so long as he doesn't violate the Constitution. In this case, unfortunately, he did. Hope he learned a lesson here on how the law works.

 

[IronWing]

More people on the right waking up. This is a good thing.

The WSJ wasn't sleeping; it has been the consistent mouthpiece of the oligarchs. It saw Trump as a tool to shake off the financial regulations put in place in the fallout from the last financial crisis. Now that Trump's antics are a destabilizing threat to the economy and therefore to profits, the WSJ is turning on him.

 

[Jhhnn]

FIFY "The President has vast amounts of power. He has an independent branch which is not subject to control by the other two except in cases where any petty bought-off judge can block his executive orders on no basis or legal precedent with the only purpose being to delay the process in the courts."

I'm sure that strongman Donald resents the constraints of the Constitution just as much as you do. So, Wah! Just Wah.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

FIFY "The President has vast amounts of power. He has an independent branch which is not subject to control by the other two except in cases where any petty bought-off judge can block his executive orders on no basis or legal precedent with the only purpose being to delay the process in the courts."

I submit not Trump, but Obama. Not all his orders stood, but enough to directly influence our nation. Then consider things like gag administrator orders on ISPs and the like. Then there is the general principle of the SCOTUS to defer to the President when the latter says there's a matter of national security. No a President does not have unlimited power and crap EOs can be blocked, but if the SCOTUS were to disagree with Trump they can always enforce it, right? That isn't an offhand comment, it was used a long time ago in our history.

The viper has his fangs even if you don't believe it.

 

[piasabird]

Obama was obsessed that the Police were the cause of all evil and had 40 FBI agents investigating one White Police Officer in Missouri. If that is not abuse of power I don not know what is.

I think the real issue is that Trump is not a puppet for Wall Street and corporations. Remember that Trump owns and runs most of his companies as a single business with no public ownership. He is not a slave to Corporate ownership and corporate lawyers.

 

[fskimospy]

Obama was obsessed that the Police were the cause of all evil and had 40 FBI agents investigating one White Police Officer in Missouri. If that is not abuse of power I don not know what is.

I think the real issue is that Trump is not a puppet for Wall Street and corporations. Remember that Trump owns and runs most of his companies as a single business with no public ownership. He is not a slave to Corporate ownership and corporate lawyers.

Can you explain why someone who isn't a puppet for Wall Street has nominated so very many people from Wall Street to be part of his administration? Was it just a big coincidence?

 

[Younigue]

Does the Kumquat Twat have any redeeming qualities whatsoever? I've seen no evidence of it but I'm actually asking. I'll try to stay open minded but I suspect any good qualities suggested will likely amuse me rather than soften my opinion.

 

[IronWing]

Obama was obsessed that the Police were the cause of all evil and had 40 FBI agents investigating one White Police Officer in Missouri. If that is not abuse of power I don not know what is.

I think the real issue is that Trump is not a puppet for Wall Street and corporations. Remember that Trump owns and runs most of his companies as a single business with no public ownership. He is not a slave to Corporate ownership and corporate lawyers.

LOL, since Trump himself is an oligarch, he won't be beholden to the oligarchs.

 

[fskimospy]

LOL, since Trump himself is an oligarch, he won't be beholden to the oligarchs.

It is kind of an amazing feat of illogic. 'Rich people are just out to get richer and so they try and control the government so it does that. Trump is a rich person so obviously he won't try to control the government to make himself richer.'

It's as if they actually believe that rich people are only out to manipulate the government for their benefit until they actually become part of the government, at which point the are overwhelmed by civic virtue or something. lolwut.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump is simply the world's greatest con man. He stands on a platform of Repub con jobs stretching back for decades. People who've been conned will be the last to recognize it, of course, having integrated elements of the big con into their most cherished beliefs.

 

[Thump553]

A huge portion of "the Right" refused to vote for Trump. He had a greater disconnect with the right than any other Republican in recent memory. A bunch of gullible "reality" TV-watching people that typically vote Democrat helped elect Trump. I know at least a few of them. He would have lost without them.

I agree: Those that continue to support him need to wake up. The man is a walking lie.

I cite this post as proof of the beginning of the end of the Trump reign. When a pol's natural base suddenly disclaims you, and blames stupid people from the other side for electing you, then your power base was gone.

When I was in college I had a summer job with a lady that grew up in Germany, was a young teen in WWII. As she pointed out to me so long ago, once a despot falls it is extremely hard to find someone who admits they once supported him.

Trump has a long way to go however, and the general public should not give up on it's resistance. And remember that once Trump is gone we will be facing the banality of evil that is Ryan and Pence. American citizens slept on their rights and by default let a fringe element select our rulers. Too many people think it is hip and intelligent to claim they are all the same and voluntarily renounce their role in our society.

 

[Jhhnn]

It is kind of an amazing feat of illogic. 'Rich people are just out to get richer and so they try and control the government so it does that. Trump is a rich person so obviously he won't try to control the government to make himself richer.'

It's as if they actually believe that rich people are only out to manipulate the government for their benefit until they actually become part of the government, at which point the are overwhelmed by civic virtue or something. lolwut.

I'm sensing the onset of deregulated tax cut trickle down excitement among the financial elite. They're getting chubby- for the rest of us.

 

[HomerJS]

Yeh, that explains his overwhelming victory in the Repub primaries, right?

Repubs built this with decades of relentless agitprop & bitter negativity to radicalize & crazify their base. Trump or somebody like him is he natural consequence of those efforts.

It's not like he hasn't staffed his cabinet with right wing stalwarts, either.

What you offer is the same sort of bullshit like "Barney Frank caused the housing bubble." Trump is your baby, Repubs- Rosemary's baby, all grown up.

GOP greased the skids building up the crazies. Trump emboldened them over the finish line promoting birtherism. "Did you know that negro isn't even an American." That's where Trump made his political bones. Trump was smart enough to know enough of the Republican base is stupid enough to buy his con and the rest is history.

 

[fskimospy]

I cite this post as proof of the beginning of the end of the Trump reign. When a pol's natural base suddenly disclaims you, and blames stupid people from the other side for electing you, then your power base was gone.

When I was in college I had a summer job with a lady that grew up in Germany, was a young teen in WWII. As she pointed out to me so long ago, once a despot falls it is extremely hard to find someone who admits they once supported him.

Trump has a long way to go however, and the general public should not give up on it's resistance. And remember that once Trump is gone we will be facing the banality of evil that is Ryan and Pence. American citizens slept on their rights and by default let a fringe element select our rulers. Too many people think it is hip and intelligent to claim they are all the same and voluntarily renounce their role in our society.

Not that Bush was a despot by any stretch of the imagination but I always found it funny how few Republicans you could find that apparently voted for him, starting in about 2008 or so.

You'll know Trump is truly and royally screwed once Republicans start denouncing him as 'not a true conservative' and things like that. I'm pretty confident that at the end of these 4 or (sweet jesus help us) 8 years we will have the right proudly proclaiming that Trump was never really one of them and that he was basically an evil Democrat so his failure was really the left's fault.

 

[trenchfoot]

Trump ain't no fake president. He's the real deal. The Electoral College, Putin and his GRU, the Repub nutjob dingdong base and those folks from the rust belt of whom Trump royally punked into voting for him say so. He's there at the White House with his kids practically running the place AND his businesses to boot.

That mofo's got Congress by the nutsack and is poised to lock in a conservative owned SCOTUS that gave us Citizen's United and opened the floodgates for Repub owned states to enact "Voter Rights Laws" that disenfranchises minorities.

Oh he's real alright, just like those recurring nightmares that keep popping up in your head that you have no control over.

The problem we have though, is that there are millions, repeat MILLIONS of Americans that still idolize Trump, and when asked why, they repeat word for word those outright lies that Trump, the Pied Piper v 2.0, mesmerized and entranced them with to get their votes.

Trump's presidency now rests on how effectively he can stifle and muffle the nation's (his) intelligence agencies' attempts at finding out what's really going on with him and his Russian Connections.

The Funny Farm has taken up residence in the White House and the patients are running loose, out of control.

 

[HomerJS]

I cite this post as proof of the beginning of the end of the Trump reign. When a pol's natural base suddenly disclaims you, and blames stupid people from the other side for electing you, then your power base was gone.

When I was in college I had a summer job with a lady that grew up in Germany, was a young teen in WWII. As she pointed out to me so long ago, once a despot falls it is extremely hard to find someone who admits they once supported him.

Trump has a long way to go however, and the general public should not give up on it's resistance. And remember that once Trump is gone we will be facing the banality of evil that is Ryan and Pence. American citizens slept on their rights and by default let a fringe element select our rulers. Too many people think it is hip and intelligent to claim they are all the same and voluntarily renounce their role in our society.

Once Fox News dumps Trump I'll agree with you. Until that happens lemmings won't know what to do

 

[justoh]

They made a novel argument that he's a "fake president." Evidence isn't implicated/applicable. This hardly seems like an improvement.

 

[jmagg]

Form your own opinions based on facts and results, not media opinion, and you wont be a lemming.

 

[Grooveriding]

Trump is the culmination of the alternate reality pushed by the Republicans, he swooped in and fed the fanatics they've bred their favourite meal.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Oh no! A negative article about President Trump that an ATP&Ner lies about. I'm shocked.

 

[hal2kilo]

The WSJ wasn't sleeping; it has been the consistent mouthpiece of the oligarchs. It saw Trump as a tool to shake off the financial regulations put in place in the fallout from the last financial crisis. Now that Trump's antics are a destabilizing threat to the economy and therefore to profits, the WSJ is turning on him.

Yea, wa wa happn'd to da record stock market. Seems to be deflating right about...now. Maybe gold is a good investment after all.