Wall Street Journal provides evidence Trump is a "fake president"

HomerJS

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Before the chants of "lame stream media", "liberal press" begin, may I remind you the WSJ is a right leaning publication that tends to be friendly to conservative topics and people.

Welcome aboard WSJ. What took you guys so long.
In an unusually harsh piece in the Wall Street Journal published Tuesday night, the conservative paper equated Donald Trump’s obsession with the idea that he was wiretapped by ex-President Barack Obama to a drunk with “an empty gin bottle.”

According to the Journal, Trump is in danger of becoming a “Fake president,” due to his promotion of what turns out to be “fake news,” seriously damaging his credibility
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/wal...president-for-clinging-to-fake-wiretap-story/

Updated title: because don't want to be like them.
 
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shortylickens

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He's not fake, he's real.

He's what happens when Americans let their country fall apart then wake up one day, panic, and vote for a psycho.
 

justoh

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As everyone knows, I hate to nitpick, but did they brand him "Fake President" or state that he's in danger of being branded one? Can't read the full article.
 

shortylickens

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As everyone knows, I hate to nitpick, but did they brand him "Fake President" or state that he's in danger of being branded one? Can't read the full article.

The RAWSTORY article says they branded him.
The WSJ said he is in danger of becoming.

OP was quoting the RAWSTORY article so technically he did not lie.
 

HomerJS

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The RAWSTORY article says they branded him.
The WSJ said he is in danger of becoming.

OP was quoting the RAWSTORY article so technically he did not lie.
You guys are observant.

If Trump can label "so called judge", "so called intelligence" seems fair to me.

Doesn't change the meat of the article.
 

K1052

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Yet the President clings to his assertion like a drunk to an empty gin bottle, rolling out his press spokesman to make more dubious claims.

ouch
 

Pohemi

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He survived his many false claims as a candidate because his core supporters treated it as mere hyperbole and his opponent was untrustworthy Hillary Clinton,” it continues. “But now he’s President, and he needs support beyond the Breitbart cheering section that will excuse anything.

“Two months into his Presidency, Gallup has Mr. Drumpf’s approval rating at 39%. No doubt Mr. Drumpf considers that fake news, but if he doesn’t show more respect for the truth most Americans may conclude he’s a fake President,” it concludes.

I think he believes if you say it enough times, it becomes truth. "Liberal media" be damned.
 

justoh

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The RAWSTORY article says they branded him.
The WSJ said he is in danger of becoming.

OP was quoting the RAWSTORY article so technically he did not lie.

Does the rawstory article state that the WSJ branded him, as we see in the title? firewall blocks rawstory for some reason. Surely WSJ has the last word on WSJ branding either way.
 
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Can't read the damn article referred to so I have to take RAWSTORY's perspective on it. I can't do second hand news myself.
 
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sm625

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He's probably not fake per se, but in a sense they are correct because the office of the president holds no real power. DC is fundamentally and fatally broken. They are bickering over a healthcare bill that does absolutely nothing to actually fix what is broken in healthcare, namely medical monopoly pricing and all the other things that Karl Denninger rants about and no one but him even talks about. Between that and all these judges that block and stall the enforcement of simple black letter law such as 8 U.S. Code § 1182, it is clear that we have no functioning government. It is just a giant rats nest of stonwalling that serves to filter out all but the actions desired by a few large corporations.

The only real power the president holds is the ability to rally the people to vote out this scum in congress, and to do his small part in getting judges in there who dont legislate from the bench. But to what end? As I said his healthcare bill is useless and pointless. Is he going to stop healthy americans from being forced to pay the medical expenses of fat carb and sugar munching couch cows who rack up a million dollars in medical expenses due solely to their laziness and carb addiction? No. Is he going to drain the medical establishment swamp that came up with this bullcrap food pyramid that encourages people to eat this garbage that sickens them over time? No. Then he fixes nothing.
 

fskimospy

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Remember though, conservatives on here keep trying to say that he's no more dishonest than any other president.

Lol.
 

fskimospy

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He's probably not fake per se, but in a sense they are correct because the office of the president holds no real power. DC is fundamentally and fatally broken. They are bickering over a healthcare bill that does absolutely nothing to actually fix what is broken in healthcare, namely medical monopoly pricing and all the other things that Karl Denninger rants about and no one but him even talks about. Between that and all these judges that block and stall the enforcement of simple black letter law such as 8 U.S. Code § 1182, it is clear that we have no functioning government. It is just a giant rats nest of stonwalling that serves to filter out all but the actions desired by a few large corporations.

The only real power the president holds is the ability to rally the people to vote out this scum in congress, and to do his small part in getting judges in there who dont legislate from the bench. But to what end? As I said his healthcare bill is useless and pointless. Is he going to stop healthy americans from being forced to pay the medical expenses of fat carb and sugar munching couch cows who rack up a million dollars in medical expenses due solely to their laziness and carb addiction? No. Is he going to drain the medical establishment swamp that came up with this bullcrap food pyramid that encourages people to eat this garbage that sickens them over time? No. Then he fixes nothing.

We should definitely listen to Karl Denninger because it's not like he has been completely, utterly, catastrophically wrong about basically everything he's predicted over the last ten years.
 

Ichinisan

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More people on the right waking up. This is a good thing.
A huge portion of "the Right" refused to vote for Trump. He had a greater disconnect with the right than any other Republican in recent memory. A bunch of gullible "reality" TV-watching people that typically vote Democrat helped elect Trump. I know at least a few of them. He would have lost without them.

I agree: Those that continue to support him need to wake up. The man is a walking lie.
 

sm625

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We should definitely listen to Karl Denninger because it's not like he has been completely, utterly, catastrophically wrong about basically everything he's predicted over the last ten years.

He hasnt been wrong about the healthcare system. And he certainly hasnt been wrong when he says that people arent going to do a damn thing about it. They just spout useless claptrap and red herrings, exactly like you just did. Our society in a nutshell.
 

fskimospy

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A huge portion of "the Right" refused to vote for Trump. He had a greater disconnect with the right than any other Republican in recent memory. A bunch of gullible "reality" TV-watching people that typically vote Democrat helped elect Trump. I know at least a few of them. He would have lost without them.

I agree: Those that continue to support him need to wake up. The man is a walking lie.

If such a huge portion of the right didn't vote for him then why did he get a similar percentage of the republican vote as Mitt Romney and why does he currently enjoy such high approval ratings from Republicans?

It might be comforting to think that the right has distanced themselves from Trump and I would agree that in limited cases, specifically the paleoconservative and libertarian wings it has, but overall the right has backed Trump very strongly. There's no escaping responsibility for this clown like conservatives tried with Bush. The right got him elected, the right owns this.
 

zinfamous

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You guys are observant.

If Trump can label "so called judge", "so called intelligence" seems fair to me.

Doesn't change the meat of the article.

I think you should change the thread title. The WSJ did not say that. defending a mis-statement in your thread title because you are quoting another source's mis-statement, is the same mis-statement. Plenty of people do that around here, and are rightfully pilloried for it.
 

emperus

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He's not fake, he's real.

He's what happens when Americans let their country fall apart then wake up one day, panic, and vote for a psycho.

You mean here's what happens when one political party spends 8 years telling their supporters that the country is falling apart while systematically try to take apart US institutions like the media.
 

HomerJS

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I think you should change the thread title. The WSJ did not say that. defending a mis-statement in your thread title because you are quoting another source's mis-statement, is the same mis-statement. Plenty of people do that around here, and are rightfully pilloried for it.
Would "WSJ provides evidence Trump is a "fake president" be accurate enough?
 

zinfamous

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Would "WSJ provides evidence Trump is a "fake president" be accurate enough?

It's not on me, but all I know is that even in your OP, this statement that you quoted:

According to the Journal, Trump is in danger of becoming a “Fake president,” due to his promotion of what turns out to be “fake news,” seriously damaging his credibility

contradicts your thread title as it, also, mis-states the argument put forth in the WSJ op-ed piece.
 

justoh

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Looks like rawstory is the problem. He just copy pastes rawstory titles, and apparently they're never accurate. At least it identified a problem with our UTM profile. Thanks OP!