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Wall Street Journal keeps forgetting its new overlord, rips McCain again

Which one of McCain's lobbyist-turned-advisers will he nominate to chair the SEC?
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Which one of McCain's lobbyist-turned-advisers will he nominate to chair the SEC?

It won't be Phil Graham. He wants Graham to be Secretary of the Treasury to saddle us with more the same deregulatory policies that allowed the crooks to run rampant and brought on the current mess.

McCain didn't used to be the total liar he is, now. The last time he told the truth, he said economics isn?t his strong suit, but he reassured us by adding that he had Greenspan's book and was going to read it.

McCain, who, a couple of days ago, said the fundamentals of our economy are strong and stated he is always in favor of less regulation, is now pissing and moaning that the Fed didn't exercise its regulatory duties, and he wants MORE regulation.

He's right that we need to restore regulation by the representaives of the people, but he's way too slow and way too late to the party. His inconvenient flip flop on this major issue is just blatant whoring for votes.

John McCain couldn't keep his Double Talk Express on track if it had training wheels. :|
 
McCain is not going far enough. I want every single executives assets frozen at these places pending an investigation. I want a investigation into this I want people to go to jail and give money back if wrong doing is found. I want a witch hunt I want people to spend 20 years in jail. I want a few of these CEOs who knew made examples of. I am still pissed at both McCain and Obama neither are willing to go far enough. I want congress members and staff investigated if they took money or turned a blind eye send them to jail.
 
John McCain couldn't keep his Double Talk Express on track if it had training wheels.

Quite true Harvey. And it really stinks when even the WSJ won't believe McCain.
 
?This morning, Senator McCain gave a speech in which his big solution to this world wide economic crisis was to blame me for it,? Obama said to boos from the crowd of about 8,000 people at a South Florida rally. ?This is the guy who spent nearly three decades in Washington and after spending the entire campaign saying I haven?t been in Washington long enough he apparently now is willing to assign me the responsibility for all of Washington?s failures.?

?I think it?s pretty clear that Sen. McCain is a little panicked right now,? he added. ?At this point he seems to be willing to say anything or do anything or change any position or violate any principle to try and win this election.? http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com...008/09/19/1426401.aspx
Stings so bad because it is so, so true!!!

 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
John McCain couldn't keep his Double Talk Express on track if it had training wheels.

Quite true Harvey. And it really stinks when even the WSJ won't believe McCain.

John Sidney McCain III flip flops worse than Kerry at a flip flop flipping flippers convention.
 
Originally posted by: quest55720
McCain is not going far enough. I want every single executives assets frozen at these places pending an investigation. I want a investigation into this I want people to go to jail and give money back if wrong doing is found. I want a witch hunt I want people to spend 20 years in jail. I want a few of these CEOs who knew made examples of. I am still pissed at both McCain and Obama neither are willing to go far enough. I want congress members and staff investigated if they took money or turned a blind eye send them to jail.

Sorry son, your party ain't about accountability. Just ask Scooter.
 
Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Originally posted by: quest55720
McCain is not going far enough. I want every single executives assets frozen at these places pending an investigation. I want a investigation into this I want people to go to jail and give money back if wrong doing is found. I want a witch hunt I want people to spend 20 years in jail. I want a few of these CEOs who knew made examples of. I am still pissed at both McCain and Obama neither are willing to go far enough. I want congress members and staff investigated if they took money or turned a blind eye send them to jail.

Sorry son, your party ain't about accountability. Just ask Scooter.


I don't got a party since the democrats have taken a turn to the far left in 2000. I don't believe in god so the republican party is out. The moveon.org types have taken control of the democratic pary. A fiscal conservative and social moderate has no party these days. All I can do is vote with my wallet and seeing what the Pelosi energy plan has done to oil prices in only 3 days. I am forced to vote for McCain to avoid being bankrupted by 10 dollar a gallon gas under the Pelosi plan.
 
Originally posted by: quest55720

I am forced to vote for McCain to avoid being bankrupted by 10 dollar a gallon gas under the Pelosi plan.

I call shens. Prove that with facts and credible links, or STFU!
 
Originally posted by: quest55720
McCain is not going far enough. I want every single executives assets frozen at these places pending an investigation. I want a investigation into this I want people to go to jail and give money back if wrong doing is found. I want a witch hunt I want people to spend 20 years in jail. I want a few of these CEOs who knew made examples of. I am still pissed at both McCain and Obama neither are willing to go far enough. I want congress members and staff investigated if they took money or turned a blind eye send them to jail.

Like that will ever happen...
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: quest55720

I am forced to vote for McCain to avoid being bankrupted by 10 dollar a gallon gas under the Pelosi plan.

I call shens. Prove that with facts and credible links, or STFU!


The no drilling Pelosi plan was run through the house late monday night. Oil prices have risen 10 dollars or almost 10% since. If her no drill plan has this effect in only 4 days I can only imagine what it will do over a 4 year period.
 
Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: quest55720

I am forced to vote for McCain to avoid being bankrupted by 10 dollar a gallon gas under the Pelosi plan.

I call shens. Prove that with facts and credible links, or STFU!


The no drilling Pelosi plan was run through the house late monday night. Oil prices have risen 10 dollars or almost 10% since. If her no drill plan has this effect in only 4 days I can only imagine what it will do over a 4 year period.
well...of course its going to raise gas prices by 3650%!!!

going by your math and your incredibly simplistic view of fuel prices.

 
I agree with McCain on this. Cox should have cracked down on manipulation a long time ago. Instead they did nothing about the short sellers and leverage, and forced these companies to do mark to market accounting. If you had to choose one person to hang, he would definitely be on the top of my list.
 
Originally posted by: JS80
I agree with McCain on this. Cox should have cracked down on manipulation a long time ago. Instead they did nothing about the short sellers and leverage, and forced these companies to do mark to market accounting. If you had to choose one person to hang, he would definitely be on the top of my list.

How about the guy who appointed him and whose policy he was following? How about the whole ideology backing that policy?

Let me summarize the ideology for you: get rich, however. There's a continuing escalation of increasingly aggressive, increasingly dangerous, techniques, which use a combination of gaining political power from the big money available for donations, and the right-wing noise machine propaganda to tell people how much letting them do those things under phrases like 'free market' benefits the nation, for getting the 'freedom' to get rich those ways, at the expense eventually of society.

That ideology turns the president of the united states into a mouthpiece for the donors instead of the democratically selected representative of the public interest.

That's exactly how you get someone like a George W. Bush - hey, ya wanna be president? - selected by those interests, where a well-funded Karl Rove puts him on a ranch (purchased at the start of his run) in a cowboy hat with lots of campaign propaganda to make him the guy you want to have a beer with, and to tear down Al Gore as a big liar. And then Bush's policies immediately - starting with the borrowed 'tax cuts' that gave as much to the wealthy as politicall feasible, like a trillion dollars of money borrowed from the nation's bank (which gets a lot of it from China) to be paid back later with interest, and the geeneral 'appoint the industry's own lobbyists to oversee them and let them tell us what laws to pass' approach to governing, with just enough 'you need Bush to protect you from the terrorists' to keep the public from caring about the corruption.

How about hanging the ideology of corruption, and admitting what happened, and how to prevent it? How Reagan was a big part of the problem for championing that ideology?

All those liberal ideas like diversified media ownership so they aren't one big cabal in the corporatocracy not informing the public on any anti-corporatist issues?
 
Originally posted by: quest55720
McCain is not going far enough. I want every single executives assets frozen at these places pending an investigation. I want a investigation into this I want people to go to jail and give money back if wrong doing is found. I want a witch hunt I want people to spend 20 years in jail. I want a few of these CEOs who knew made examples of. I am still pissed at both McCain and Obama neither are willing to go far enough. I want congress members and staff investigated if they took money or turned a blind eye send them to jail.

I'm with you on that. But, I'm afraid these execs have too much money for bribes.
I bet a couple of years from now we will have a hard time finding many of these guys going to court. We have such a revolving door between government and the private sector it's absurd. Paulson, Secretary of the Treasury, is the former head of Goldman Sachs, VP Cheney, former CEO of Halliburton. I remember a 60 minutes story awhile back about the seniors drug plan, and how one of the head government negotiators went to work for pharma right after.

I don't want to derail this thread, but here is a web page showing the cozy relationship between pharma and the govt. I think it's all related anyway. Big money is big money
link
 
Originally posted by: Stoneburner
http://online.wsj.com/article/...?mod=todays_us_opinion


They nailed McCain perfectly in general, not just on this issue of firing the SEC chief. He looks for "scapegoats" as opposed to problems. His campaign has been a themeless, ad hoc, sequence of scapegoating, lying, and other political exigencies. Just a bumblefuck of a campaign... there is nothing beyond winning for McCain.

Wait a minute.

By all reasonable logic this election should have been signed sealed and delivered to the Dems before it even started. Yet they are in pretty much a dead heat.

If they are basically tied in a race that wasn't supposed (nor shouldn't) have been a contest AND the Republicans are running a "bumblefuck of a campaign" WTF would you call the Democrats campaign?

 
Originally posted by: JS80
I agree with McCain on this. Cox should have cracked down on manipulation a long time ago. Instead they did nothing about the short sellers and leverage, and forced these companies to do mark to market accounting. If you had to choose one person to hang, he would definitely be on the top of my list.

LOL, short selling didn't cause this mess.
 
Originally posted by: quest55720

The no drilling Pelosi plan was run through the house late monday night. Oil prices have risen 10 dollars or almost 10% since. If her no drill plan has this effect in only 4 days I can only imagine what it will do over a 4 year period.

Hmm... Where to start telling you how much meaningless smoke you're blowing...
  1. Prices over a four day window don't mean squat, at least without a lot more information. Oil prices have fluctuated all over the place, for many reasons, including the fact that because your Traitor In Chief's criminal deregulation and lack of oversight have tanked the value of the dollar.
  2. If they started drilling, today, you wouldn't see oil for 7 - 10 years, and it wouldn't change the price of your gas more than a couple of pennies when it did.
Care to try again?
 
Originally posted by: Harvey

If they started drilling, today, you wouldn't see oil for 7 - 10 years, and it wouldn't change the price of your gas more than a couple of pennies when it did.

In the meantime it will create tons of high paying jobs in an economy that could desperately use them. Why NOT drill?
 
From Craig234-

How about the guy who appointed him and whose policy he was following? How about the whole ideology backing that policy?

Damnit, Craig- quit trying to make sense. Righties want a scapegoat- they don't want to look at themselves, what they believe in, and how their faith in folly has created the current situation.

Huh-uhh... Can't have that. Hell, any recognition of the truth would put 'em into catatonic shock.
 
Originally posted by: quest55720
McCain is not going far enough. I want every single executives assets frozen at these places pending an investigation. I want a investigation into this I want people to go to jail and give money back if wrong doing is found. I want a witch hunt I want people to spend 20 years in jail. I want a few of these CEOs who knew made examples of. I am still pissed at both McCain and Obama neither are willing to go far enough. I want congress members and staff investigated if they took money or turned a blind eye send them to jail.

This is not the CEOs' fault. They played the hands they were dealt, legally. Unfortunately, Congress gave them a beautiful hand to focus on short-term profit rather than long-term solvency. The regulators were merely doing the job that Congress assigned them. If you want to blame anyone, blame Congress and the President.
 
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