Wal-Mart, the evil moves closer to me.

[So]

Originally posted by: jumpr
So you moved 36 MILES away from your work just to afford more home, and now you're COMPLAINING ABOUT WAL-MART? You are the epitome of suburban sprawl, and now you're complaining about the benefits of sprawl. Just stop.

Agreed. Stop bitching. Wal-Mart is not evil and they are only successful because people like you are hypocrites who whine about the evils of wal mart and then proceed to keep them in business.

In summary, STFU.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: Amused
:roll: at the mindless Walmart hate.

Nobody hates Walmart.

How could you think such a thing?

A. I hate Wally world.
B. The hate isn't mindless. I find most things there are cheap crap, half of which isn't worth the price they are selling it for, the other half I can get cheaper elsewhere.
C. Seems most ATOTers would sell there soul to save a few pennies. It is no wonder why the y are pro wally world.
D. It really doesn't matter, if you don't like Wally world, don't shop there. Tell your friends not to shop there. Thats about all you can do.

And that's fair. If nobody shops at wal-mart, they will die. End of story.

 

[BW86]

I shop at Walmart and I love the great prices

 

[obeseotron]

Well at least I live in NYC where our politicians will go to great lengths to keep that infestation out of the city.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

CRRAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWLING INNNNNNNN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNN

Shut up already with the f*cking Wal-Mart angst.

- M4H

 

[alien42]

the truth about wal-mart

 

[Raincity]

I will stick with Target. Cleaners stores and their cheap clothing line has more style than the crap Walmart sells.

 

[dartworth]

http://www.organicconsumers.org/corp/walmart120604.cfm

http://www.walmart-blows.com/
http://www.walmartsucks.org/
http://www.livejournal.com/community/walmartsucks/
http://www.lewrockwell.com/greenhut/greenhut29.html
http://WalMartWatch.com
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2001859432_floyd18.html

 

[dartworth]

In the country of its birth, Wal-Mart is wrecking havoc with worker
standards of living. It forces other large grocery chains to demand from
their unionized employees lower wages and benefits to be able to compete
with Wall-Mart's race to the bottom. This direction is a historically tragic
reverse for the U.S. economy that before World War II featured rising wages
that increased consumer demand and improved livelihoods.

Increasingly, Wal-Mart's immense arc of influence here is pushing wages and
benefits downward. With hundreds of thousands of its nearly 1.4 million
workers making under $7.50 an hour, before payroll deductions, (the average
wage is between $7.50 and $8.50 an hour), the average-on-the-clock workweek
is only 32 hours. Since Wal-Mart defines anyone working fewer than 34 hours
per week as part-time, they have to wait for two years before qualifying for
health insurance whose co-payment takes one-fifth of the average paycheck.
Get the idea of what is meant by the Wal-Mart way.

Waiting periods are key to Wal-Mart's phony health insurance boasting in
their television ads. Impoverished employees don¹t stay, with turnover rates
for these hourly employees at 50 percent to 100 percent at many stores.

Wal-Mart is devilishly ingenious in thinking up ways to have taxpayers fill
in its wage gap. Put them on partial welfare, says the very well paid
company bosses who make millions of dollars each per year. These workers are
given advice on how to apply so that taxpayers subsidize Wal-Mart¹s profits.

For example, in Georgia, over 10, 261 children of Wal-Mart employees are
enrolled in the state¹s Peachcare program for health insurance in families
meeting federal poverty criteria.

According to the report, Everyday Low Wages, one 200-person Wal-Mart store
could cost federal taxpayers over $420,000 per year. These costs include
subsidized lunches, health insurance and housing assistance, federal tax
credits and deductions for low-income families, among other examples of
Wal-Mart's freeloading.

Enough is never enough for this corporation. It often demands substantial
local tax breaks from municipalities as a condition for locating there.
Although successful local opposition is blocking dozens of Wal-Mart location
plans, this corporate welfare King still manages to escape its fair share of
taxes, while local home owner and small businesses ante up for local public
services and assume Wal-Mart's share. That is, small businesses that manages
to remain in the hollowed out Main Streets that are the aftermath of a
Wal-Mart opening. Minimal thinking by consumers say Wal-Mart is a bargain;
maximum thinking starts adding up the local, national and global costs of
this Goliath depressor of purchasing power by workers.

 

[imported_Reck]

I love how people shop at walmart and then turn around later and bitch about how evil they are. I have those kind of people in my own family sadly...the other day my sister just got back from shopping at walmart and she was on a rant about how evil they are...I just told her to stfu. honestly wth are people thinking sometimes?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: dartworth

In the country of its birth, Wal-Mart is wrecking havoc with worker
standards of living. It forces other large grocery chains to demand from
their unionized employees lower wages and benefits to be able to compete
with Wall-Mart's race to the bottom. This direction is a historically tragic
reverse for the U.S. economy that before World War II featured rising wages
that increased consumer demand and improved livelihoods.

Increasingly, Wal-Mart's immense arc of influence here is pushing wages and
benefits downward. With hundreds of thousands of its nearly 1.4 million
workers making under $7.50 an hour, before payroll deductions, (the average
wage is between $7.50 and $8.50 an hour), the average-on-the-clock workweek
is only 32 hours. Since Wal-Mart defines anyone working fewer than 34 hours
per week as part-time, they have to wait for two years before qualifying for
health insurance whose co-payment takes one-fifth of the average paycheck.
Get the idea of what is meant by the Wal-Mart way.

Waiting periods are key to Wal-Mart's phony health insurance boasting in
their television ads. Impoverished employees don¹t stay, with turnover rates
for these hourly employees at 50 percent to 100 percent at many stores.

Wal-Mart is devilishly ingenious in thinking up ways to have taxpayers fill
in its wage gap. Put them on partial welfare, says the very well paid
company bosses who make millions of dollars each per year. These workers are
given advice on how to apply so that taxpayers subsidize Wal-Mart¹s profits.

For example, in Georgia, over 10, 261 children of Wal-Mart employees are
enrolled in the state¹s Peachcare program for health insurance in families
meeting federal poverty criteria.

According to the report, Everyday Low Wages, one 200-person Wal-Mart store
could cost federal taxpayers over $420,000 per year. These costs include
subsidized lunches, health insurance and housing assistance, federal tax
credits and deductions for low-income families, among other examples of
Wal-Mart's freeloading.

Enough is never enough for this corporation. It often demands substantial
local tax breaks from municipalities as a condition for locating there.
Although successful local opposition is blocking dozens of Wal-Mart location
plans, this corporate welfare King still manages to escape its fair share of
taxes, while local home owner and small businesses ante up for local public
services and assume Wal-Mart's share. That is, small businesses that manages
to remain in the hollowed out Main Streets that are the aftermath of a
Wal-Mart opening. Minimal thinking by consumers say Wal-Mart is a bargain;
maximum thinking starts adding up the local, national and global costs of
this Goliath depressor of purchasing power by workers.

Anytone who thinks that store clerk is a career/way to support a family is a fool at best.

 

[Nebor]

Burn it down? (Your house or the Walmart, whatever makes you feel better\solves your problem.)

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: dartworth

.

Anytone who thinks that store clerk is a career/way to support a family is a fool at best.

Some people don't have a choice.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
B. The hate isn't mindless. I find most things there are cheap crap, half of which isn't worth the price they are selling it for, the other half I can get cheaper elsewhere.

I agree completely with this. I shop Costco which is just as good as WalMart, if not better, and has much higher quality merchandise. They pay their employees decently too.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: dartworth

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: dartworth

.

Anytone who thinks that store clerk is a career/way to support a family is a fool at best.

Some people don't have a choice.

And? Clerk is not a career. People's situation doesn't add value to their job.

 

[PHiuR]

ever watch southpark? haha

 

[So]

Originally posted by: PHiuR
ever watch southpark? haha

The deals are getting better as we approach the heart of the wal-mart

Boys...go on without me...the deals are too good.

 

[dartworth]

Top 10 Wal-Mart Worst Actions
* A judge fined Wal-Mart $18 million because the company provided incomplete and false evidence in a lawsuit brought by a woman who had been abducted in a Wal-Mart parking lot.
* Upholding a $2.3 million verdict awarded to two women sexually harassed by a Wal-Mart manager, the judge said, the manager's conduct was "outrageous and apparently Wal-Mart was aware of this, since his conduct was witnessed high-level [supervisors].
* Federal judges in three states have fined Wal-Mart--as much as $120,000--for destroying evidence, withholding documents, and other violations in cases where Wal-Mart shoppers were either injured or a crime victim at a Wal-Mart store.
* A jury found that Wal-Mart fired a white female employee because she was dating a black man, in a 1998 case.
* A 14-year Wal-Mart worker was awarded $2.75 million after a jury decided store officials wrongly accused her of stealing.
* Three existing community jobs are destroyed for every two new jobs at Wal-Mart.
* Wal-Mart, the company that wrapped itself in the American Flag, is so patriotic it runs a Buy Mexican campaign.
* Wal-Mart sold fake Tommy Hilfiger apparel to consumers after a judged ordered the company to stop.
* Only 38% of Wal-Mart employees have company provided health insurance--compared to a national average that shows 60% of employees are covered by company plans.
* After the FTC charged Wal-Mart with not identifying the country of origin on apparel items listed on its Internet sales site, Wal-Mart removed the items, apparently preferring not to disclose where the clothing was made.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: dartworth
Top 10 Wal-Mart Worst Actions
* A judge fined Wal-Mart $18 million because the company provided incomplete and false evidence in a lawsuit brought by a woman who had been abducted in a Wal-Mart parking lot.
* Upholding a $2.3 million verdict awarded to two women sexually harassed by a Wal-Mart manager, the judge said, the manager's conduct was "outrageous and apparently Wal-Mart was aware of this, since his conduct was witnessed high-level [supervisors].
* Federal judges in three states have fined Wal-Mart--as much as $120,000--for destroying evidence, withholding documents, and other violations in cases where Wal-Mart shoppers were either injured or a crime victim at a Wal-Mart store.
* A jury found that Wal-Mart fired a white female employee because she was dating a black man, in a 1998 case.
* A 14-year Wal-Mart worker was awarded $2.75 million after a jury decided store officials wrongly accused her of stealing.
* Three existing community jobs are destroyed for every two new jobs at Wal-Mart.
* Wal-Mart, the company that wrapped itself in the American Flag, is so patriotic it runs a Buy Mexican campaign.
* Wal-Mart sold fake Tommy Hilfiger apparel to consumers after a judged ordered the company to stop.
* Only 38% of Wal-Mart employees have company provided health insurance--compared to a national average that shows 60% of employees are covered by company plans.
* After the FTC charged Wal-Mart with not identifying the country of origin on apparel items listed on its Internet sales site, Wal-Mart removed the items, apparently preferring not to disclose where the clothing was made.

Your bullet points are very appealing, especially given the lack of context. Most of those can be chalked up to human error, are exaggerated, or don't really matter at all. The only one that is a REAL problem is number one, and they got fined.

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: dartworth
Top 10 Wal-Mart Worst Actions
* A judge fined Wal-Mart $18 million because the company provided incomplete and false evidence in a lawsuit brought by a woman who had been abducted in a Wal-Mart parking lot.
* Upholding a $2.3 million verdict awarded to two women sexually harassed by a Wal-Mart manager, the judge said, the manager's conduct was "outrageous and apparently Wal-Mart was aware of this, since his conduct was witnessed high-level [supervisors].
* Federal judges in three states have fined Wal-Mart--as much as $120,000--for destroying evidence, withholding documents, and other violations in cases where Wal-Mart shoppers were either injured or a crime victim at a Wal-Mart store.
* A jury found that Wal-Mart fired a white female employee because she was dating a black man, in a 1998 case.
* A 14-year Wal-Mart worker was awarded $2.75 million after a jury decided store officials wrongly accused her of stealing.
* Three existing community jobs are destroyed for every two new jobs at Wal-Mart.
* Wal-Mart, the company that wrapped itself in the American Flag, is so patriotic it runs a Buy Mexican campaign.
* Wal-Mart sold fake Tommy Hilfiger apparel to consumers after a judged ordered the company to stop.
* Only 38% of Wal-Mart employees have company provided health insurance--compared to a national average that shows 60% of employees are covered by company plans.
* After the FTC charged Wal-Mart with not identifying the country of origin on apparel items listed on its Internet sales site, Wal-Mart removed the items, apparently preferring not to disclose where the clothing was made.

Your bullet points are very appealing, especially given the lack of context. Most of those can be chalked up to human error, are exaggerated, or don't really matter at all. The only one that is a REAL problem is number one, and they got fined.

These are just points I found interesting while looking at a website.

I don't shop at Walmart myself. I believe they are bad for the economy and just bad for America.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
B. The hate isn't mindless. I find most things there are cheap crap, half of which isn't worth the price they are selling it for, the other half I can get cheaper elsewhere.

I agree completely with this. I shop Costco which is just as good as WalMart, if not better, and has much higher quality merchandise. They pay their employees decently too.

Apples to oranges, costco and sams club are the direct competitors.

Edit: and if you think costco, target, kmart, hills, sears, and even one of the top 100 employers wegmans havent lost lawsuits, you are very mistaken.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: dartworth

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: dartworth
snip

Your bullet points are very appealing, especially given the lack of context. Most of those can be chalked up to human error, are exaggerated, or don't really matter at all. The only one that is a REAL problem is number one, and they got fined.

These are just points I found interesting while looking at a website.

I don't shop at Walmart myself. I believe they are bad for the economy and just bad for America.

And I applaud that. I too, have found that I can often find better prices at stores other than wally's, but I do still find good deals on things from time to time. IMO, if wal-mart kills a small town, then the town was not economically sound in the first place.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
B. The hate isn't mindless. I find most things there are cheap crap, half of which isn't worth the price they are selling it for, the other half I can get cheaper elsewhere.

I agree completely with this. I shop Costco which is just as good as WalMart, if not better, and has much higher quality merchandise. They pay their employees decently too.

Apples to oranges, costco and sams club are the direct competitors.

Edit: and if you think costco, target, kmart, hills, sears, and even one of the top 100 employers wegmans havent lost lawsuits, you are very mistaken.

Link to Costco lawsuits?

I'm not talking about lawsuits, I'm talking about prices and merchandise quality, in which Costco beats Sam's Club hands down.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
B. The hate isn't mindless. I find most things there are cheap crap, half of which isn't worth the price they are selling it for, the other half I can get cheaper elsewhere.

I agree completely with this. I shop Costco which is just as good as WalMart, if not better, and has much higher quality merchandise. They pay their employees decently too.

Apples to oranges, costco and sams club are the direct competitors.

Edit: and if you think costco, target, kmart, hills, sears, and even one of the top 100 employers wegmans havent lost lawsuits, you are very mistaken.

Link to Costco lawsuits?

I'm not talking about lawsuits, I'm talking about prices and merchandise quality, in which Costco beats Sam's Club hands down.

Actually, most of costcos sales are slowly marked up 6 weeks before the sale goes in, and the sale price is only 1-4% lower than their normal price.

As for merchandise quality, yeah costcos Gatorade, Welchs Juice, V-8, Michelin Tires, Bounty Paper Towels, Breyers Ice Cream, Compaq and HP PCs, Lexar flash memory... etc... must be higher quality at costco...

Its all name brand merchandise, and Sams Generics are MADE BY THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE NAME BRANDS.

Class Action Lawsuit vs Costco for sexual discrimination

Costco managers sue over overtime wage discrepencies

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Actually, most of costcos sales are slowly marked up 6 weeks before the sale goes in, and the sale price is only 1-4% lower than their normal price.

And you know this how?

As for merchandise quality, yeah costcos Gatorade, Welchs Juice, V-8, Michelin Tires, Bounty Paper Towels, Breyers Ice Cream, Compaq and HP PCs, Lexar flash memory... etc... must be higher quality at costco...

Its all name brand merchandise, and Sams Generics are MADE BY THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE NAME BRANDS.

So are Costco's.