VW recalls 482,000 diesel cars due to a system to trick emissions faces 18bil fine

[LTC8K6]

The government determined over 100 deaths from the stuck and entrapped pedals and Toyota paid billions in fines and lawsuits over it. It wasn't aa nothing problem. The floor mat and pedal recall were two different recall. I owned an affected vehicle and we has to have two recalls, one for the floor mat issue, and another to replace the pedals.

Got a link to the 100 deaths info?

I mean from an official investigation, not court claims.

 

[LTC8K6]

Volkswagen's cheating engines can't be easily fixed

Volkswagen actually tried to fix the problem using a software patch in December of 2014 and then again in April of this year.

Neither attempt was successful.

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/volkswagens-cheating-engines-cant-easily-fixed-vw-225206095.html

 

[Jimzz]

Volkswagen's cheating engines can't be easily fixed



https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/volkswagens-cheating-engines-cant-easily-fixed-vw-225206095.html

They can be fixed but it will REALLY kill gas mileage and/or performance. I think their fixes so far has been to reduce it while not losing much so owners do not complain and shin a light on it. The cars run in spec when in test mode. So put it in "test" mode 100% of the time. That will fix the pollution issue but may bring reliability, mileage, and performance issues.

If you think the disease is bad, wait till you see the cure.

 

[overst33r]

They can be fixed but it will REALLY kill gas mileage and/or performance. I think their fixes so far has been to reduce it while not losing much so owners do not complain and shin a light on it.

If you think the disease is bad, wait till you see the cure.

Not only will it impact power and mileage, it will also affect NVH characteristics and increase soot buildup. From what I understand, it was this combination of items that prevented Mazda, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and others from bringing their diesels here.

The fix is far from simple.

 

[Jimzz]

Now I am glad I did not touch VW stock...

Volkswagen rigged tests on 2.8 million cars in Germany, Berlin says
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-pick-boss-tackle-emissions-113739730.html#

Volkswagen rigged emission tests on about 2.8 million diesel vehicles in Germany, the country's transport minister said on Friday, nearly six times as many as it has admitted to falsifying in the United States.

 

[tortillasoup]

I'm surprised that Volkswagen admitted to the issue. If I were VW, I would have just quietly discontinued the diesel vehicles that weren't compliant anyhow.

 

[Sonikku]

If the EPA simply didn't regulate anything, the companies wouldn't have done anything wrong!

 

[overst33r]

I'm surprised that Volkswagen admitted to the issue. If I were VW, I would have just quietly discontinued the diesel vehicles that weren't compliant anyhow.

That's probably because they banked on not getting caught.

 

[JSt0rm]

That's probably because they banked on not getting caught.

Johnny crack rock banked on the same thing.

 

[Imp]

If the EPA simply didn't regulate anything, the companies wouldn't have done anything wrong!

The hell you talking bout? I trust all corporations to act in the best interests of society. Just go look up the list of Superfund sites on the EPA website to confirm...

And don't worry, the CEO of VK that just left got a nice exit package.

 

[Jimzz]

I'm surprised that Volkswagen admitted to the issue. If I were VW, I would have just quietly discontinued the diesel vehicles that weren't compliant anyhow.

They did not admit it right away. This has been going on for over a year now. They have been kicking the can as long as they could.

 

[Ns1]

Now I am glad I did not touch VW stock...

Volkswagen rigged tests on 2.8 million cars in Germany, Berlin says
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/volkswagen-pick-boss-tackle-emissions-113739730.html#

Volkswagen rigged emission tests on about 2.8 million diesel vehicles in Germany, the country's transport minister said on Friday, nearly six times as many as it has admitted to falsifying in the United States.

LOL VW


what fucktard could possibly think this would be a good idea.

 

[brianmanahan]

LOL VW

what f***tard could possibly think this would be a good idea.

one who cares more about quarterly profits and annual sales over long-term corporate soundness and social responsibility

 

[JSt0rm]

one who cares more about quarterly profits and annual sales over long-term corporate soundness and social responsibility

Its amazingly stupid how they thought this could of worked forever?

 

[Ns1]

one who cares more about quarterly profits and annual sales over long-term corporate soundness and social responsibility

Q32015 - Q42018 are gonna look real good for VW.

 

[Imp]

one who cares more about quarterly profits and annual sales over long-term corporate soundness and social responsibility

CEO might get north of $60 million after running the company into the ground:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...wagen-ceos-exit-package-could-top-67-million/

Oh wait, I bet he knew nothing about it... from 2009-2015.

 

[LTC8K6]

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/exclusive-u-s-cash-for-1264528182796342.html

Cash for Clunkers—the $3 billion U.S. government program from 2009 designed to boost the auto industry by spurring sales of fuel-efficient vehicles—spent $20.6 million helping buyers of Volkswagen diesel cars and wagons now under fire for software that faked their emission tests.

A Yahoo Autos analysis of the 690,114 vehicle sales covered by the program found that the U.S. government provided $4,500 rebates on 4,599 VW Jettas and Jetta Sportswagens now under recall. Those models, from the 2009 and 2010 model year equipped with the 2-liter turbodiesel, were highly popular in some areas because their high mileage ratings qualified them for the largest rebate under Cash for Clunkers.

Also:

Earlier this week, another analysis by The Los Angeles Times estimated that the government had also provided up to $51.5 million in tax credits to VW diesel buyers under a separate fuel-efficiency promotion. Since the U.S. Internal Revenue Service does not release detailed data on that program, it’s not known how many VW diesel owners actually claimed the credit.

 

[TheGardener]

Forgot about the Cash For Clunkers campaign. Another brilliant Obama program. Just as good as Bush's tax credit for 6,000 lb SUV vehicles. There were any before the credit.

I wonder how much VW directors and officers have given to the Clinton Foundation. If they haven't, it is high time to do so. Might keep them out of jail.

 

[Imp]

If we're talking about government help:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...-to-open-doors-for-suppliers/article24064898/

Export Development Canada is making a $525-million loan to Volkswagen AG in a bid to get the German auto maker to boost its Canadian supply base as it expands in Mexico and the Southern U.S.

Don't worry, it's just a loan. No risk at all.

 

[disappoint]

Before this news I had kind of wondered to myself how my Passat with DEF could possibly go over ten thousand miles between DEF tank refills... I mean what could a couple thimbles full of urea have been actually doing. Now I know.

I kind of want to do a DPF/DEF delete now. I mean it's not like it was doing much in the first place...

that is retarded, not the dpf def delete, what vw did.

Oh so what VW did was "retarded", but making it worse isn't?

 

[OverVolt]

So it was just to boost MPG?

It kinda seems like they cheated the MPG ratings just as much as the emissions. If the MPG seems too good to be true it probably is.

 

[sdifox]

Oh so what VW did was "retarded", but making it worse isn't?

What an individual does with his property is his choice. The law may do to him is his problem. What VW did is not the same at all.

 

[Jimzz]

So it was just to boost MPG?

It kinda seems like they cheated the MPG ratings just as much as the emissions. If the MPG seems too good to be true it probably is.

That and saved money from adding DEF and other emissions systems.

VW/Audi was considered the #1 diesel car to buy if you wanted a diesel car. Heck look at these forums for people that have bought one and the really hardened fanboys as well.

I think it was about a quarter, 1 out of every 4, VW cars sold was a diesel. They were the biggest when it came to diesel cars in the US, and this is why. Now we know how they were able to get the performance and mileage others had a hard time meeting.

 

[brianmanahan]

CEO might get north of $60 million after running the company into the ground

bingo!

 

[StrangerGuy]

bingo!

Socialism for the rich, bootstrap for the plebs.