VS 3.0 Displacement mapping in action!

[apoppin]

How soon are the new games coming out that have SM3.0 built in "from the ground up"?

Evidently NONE - yet. The were all "added" - at a cost in performance - to showcase nVidia's new feature.

However, isn't AoE III both "native" SM3.0 AND coming soon?

That will answer if SM3.0 is more efficient in games then 2.0

 

[trinibwoy]

Originally posted by: apoppin
However, isn't AoE III both "native" SM3.0 AND coming soon?

That will answer if SM3.0 is more efficient in games then 2.0

Yeah but by then nobody will care since everybody will have SM3.0. Then it'll be whose SM3.0 is faster

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: trinibwoy

Originally posted by: apoppin
However, isn't AoE III both "native" SM3.0 AND coming soon?

That will answer if SM3.0 is more efficient in games then 2.0

Yeah but by then nobody will care since everybody will have SM3.0. Then it'll be whose SM3.0 is faster

but when is "by then"? Later this year?

it's gonna be at least 18 months before the 6800ultra is "slow"
edited

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: humey
dug777, Since when do i rant about nvidia all the time, sure i reply in the threads, im entitled to, i state IMO what i think is correct, i dont need you giving me sh1t, or others agreeing to your sh1t about the topic.

I was glad to go and look at that demo and so were others, anyone doesnt like dont read or reply, ignore it and dont download demo most of all.

I seriously doubt a PLAT member was bored so wanted to start a fight as it was put, in word to that affect, your the TROLL/FLAMMER in this thread.

Next time you do this im going to stick my COCK in your mouth till you choke.

U childish little fvk :laugh:

if it's in line with you online attitude then i'm sure i wouldn't notice it

 

[trinibwoy]

Originally posted by: apoppin
but when is "by then"? Later this year?

it's gonna be at leasat 18months before the 6800ultra is "slow"

and SM3.0 is more efficient than SM2.0

Yeah. ATI's R520 chip is expected sometime around June and it will have SM3.0 support as well. So by the time AOE III comes out both ATI and Nvidia will have SM3.0 products.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: RockHydra11

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Cheesetogo

Originally posted by: xtknight
that's pretty damn realistic. thanks for the link and keep them coming. this isn't a SM3.0 vs SM2.0 thread like some people want to believe. this is merely showing a demonstration app using VS3.0.

I think you need to read the post again:

It looks fantastic. Only Gforce 6 users can enjoy it in full 3D while ATi users will see the effect simulated in 2D. Download this little demo here!

That sounds a lot like sm3 vs sm2 to me. Maybe if I replace ati and nvidia with sm2 and 3, it will help you.

It looks fantastic. Only SM3.0 users can enjoy it in full 3D while SM2.0 users will see the effect simulated in 2D. Download this little demo here!

That sounds like SM3 vs. SM2 to me.

It's a fact. The bold words are nothing but the truth. I don't see what's wrong with that statement.

i smell a troll

or perhaps;

P&N called, they want their troll back

He isn't trolling and it isn't a SM3.0 vs SM2.0 thread. He said ATI doesn't have 3.0. Plain and simple. He didn't say one or the other was better. He only offered a video. People take things waaay out of context.

My point here is that he shouldn't have use ATI in the way he did when he's actually refrerring to every card ever made that doesn't have SM3.0, of which a very large proportion are made by nvidia, if you get my drift...

so every nvidia card ever made other than the 6XXX series falls into his 'ATI' category

 

[xtknight]

I ran this on both of my PCs and have made comparison images.

ATI Radeon 9500 PRO (SM 2.0): http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/xtknight/r9500p_water.jpg
Leadtek GeForce 6800 NU (SM 3.0): http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/xtknight/g6800nu_water.jpg

BTW, the 75 FPS is because of VSync. When I force options in the control panel, like VSync, everything goes slow...like 35 FPS. I don't know what's going on. It was set at app-preference.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: xtknight
I ran this on both of my PCs and have made comparison images.

ATI Radeon 9500 PRO (SM 2.0): http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/xtknight/r9500p_water.jpg
Leadtek GeForce 6800 NU (SM 3.0): http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/xtknight/g6800nu_water.jpg

cheers for the pics

i really can't see much of a difference from those shots...other than the fps difference (which i assume is cos the 6800nu is doing it properly).

perhaps the ripples look a little smoother on the 6800, but i wouldn't have guaranteed i would have guessed which was which from the screenies if they hadn't been named

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: xtknight
I ran this on both of my PCs and have made comparison images.

ATI Radeon 9500 PRO (SM 2.0): http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/xtknight/r9500p_water.jpg
Leadtek GeForce 6800 NU (SM 3.0): http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/xtknight/g6800nu_water.jpg

cheers for the pics

i really can't see much of a difference from those shots...other than the fps difference (which i assume is cos the 6800nu is doing it properly).

perhaps the ripples look a little smoother on the 6800, but i wouldn't have guaranteed i would have guessed which was which from the screenies if they hadn't been named

well...the FPS is because of vsync. I explain in my previous post (edit). must be a driver bug or something. yeah maybe I should mismatch the pictures and ask somebody to tell me which is which. i don't see any difference at all. Anyone know if SM3.0 is not supported, what is run? I assumed SM2.0 but it could be SM1.1 like Chaos Theory.

Actually I notice more sparklies and rough edge artifacts on the 9500 PRO that I do on the GeForce 6800NU. Could be just because of the card difference though. I'm going to try and force the SM2.0 mode upon this program with 3D-Analyze so any card differences are accounted for. Edit: 3D-Analyze can only force shaders in DX mode. Can't do it. Anyone know of a program to disable OpenGL extensions, notably NV_vertex_program3?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: trinibwoy

Originally posted by: apoppin
but when is "by then"? Later this year?

it's gonna be at leasat 18months before the 6800ultra is "slow"

and SM3.0 is more efficient than SM2.0

Yeah. ATI's R520 chip is expected sometime around June and it will have SM3.0 support as well. So by the time AOE III comes out both ATI and Nvidia will have SM3.0 products.

However, the r520 is gonna be expensive - $500-$600 . . . in the Fall, i am looking forward to picking up a cheap 6800u for ~$250 that'll still run the same 'native' 3.0 games - albeit at a lower resolution [perfect for my 19" CRT's "limited" 11x8 @ 85 hz].

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: BouZouki

Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
BAN!!!! I AM SO SICK OF THESE THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!11

I have to agree.

These ati vs nvidia threads you people create just make you look like idiots.

Lets get serious, mcarra got bored and felt like creating a flame war.

:thumbsdown:

I'm getting too bored of flamers, I'm starting to hate this dinamyc... :|

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: Noob

Originally posted by: McArra
Only Gforce 6 users can enjoy it in full 3D while ATi users will see the effect simulated in 2D. Download this little demo

Will it still look the same while simulated in 2D? Will you be able to tell a difference if you say them in both versions? And is this the technology that will be used in Unreal 3?

I haven't run both but from the pictures they look more or less similar unless yo reach water level and see the 3D in VS3.0.

Some Screenshots in my 6800gt

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: McArra
I said Gforce 6 support it, not Nvidia! You people are sick! I'm really getting tired of how stupid people is. I'm not an English speaker, maybe I'm not the best writting things, but don't be fool.

yeah everyone seems blind on these forums....first thing the fanboys see is a SM2s vs SM3 fire fight, or more appropraitely a NV vs ATI fire fight

McArra hasnt forgetten anything. and can be let off for any grammatical errors on the basis that english isnt his native tongue. (its spanish right?)

Well, it is Basque, and Spanish. I learned both at the same time

 

[McArra]

More screenines added @water level to see how the geometry works.

SCREENSHOTS

 

[trinibwoy]

Thanks. Those shots definitely show the difference.

 

[McArra]

screenies in 9800pro that shows how it looks in a Non-sm3.0 card :roll: : Screenshots in non-sm3.0 cards

 

[drpootums]

I unzipped it, and when trying to run it came up with an error, and now when i start up my comp Windows Explorer wants to close...what's going on and how can i fix this?

 

[Avalon]

You've got to be on something if you think you have any basis to attack McArra over this thread.

*Edit*
This demo is pretty neat.

 

[trinibwoy]

Check this thread for some great screenshots - http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49867