Voters vs. Illegal Immigrants. . .

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: hysperion

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

It's not just their motivated, tired, or sick coming our way, it's also their drug-dealers, gangbangers, and otherwise undesirable folk... YAY!

All people have there own group of troublemakers, poverty makes more also, On a whole mexicans have been damn polite and law abiding immigrants if you compare them to the irish and their riots. Get a grip.

Save me your tirade how mexicans are lazy dirty crime ridden gangbangers and just call them beaners or something ok? They know what you really think and it shows.

Notice how he makes racial comments about the Irish who came here legally and calls others racist for harping on those who didn't follow the laws to come here........

If racism is involved on our part how come we don't have a problem with legal Mexican immigration. I am 100% against illegal immigration. My girlfriend of 5 years is half Mexican. Her mom is an illegal immigrant. I guess you could say my girlfriend's 3 older brother's and herself are anchor babies. Guess what I would deport her mom in an instand if it was my choice and her daughter knows my views and still chooses to date me.......Would I be in a 5-year relationship with a hispanic girl if I was racist? Probably not............And you can shove your racist Irish comments up you know where.....Don't disrespect my ancestors because you're infatuated with Hillary........

Where is "racist irish comments" Irish DID riot, (not that they didnt have good reason) and they did a good amount of it too, some of the biggest most well known riots in american history were irish immigrants,
Now how does pointing out a neutral fact about american history equate racism?

I should ignore twits like you who of course think "hillary" has ANYTHING to do with anyones views of anything...I have to say, congrats, you get the most clueless award for posters today. You and hillary seem to be the ones who should hook up.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993
Most likely due to big companies giving them huge amount of cash to support super low wage illegal immigrants workers.

Funny how the founding fathers thought to put in specific clauses for forbidding the intermingling of church and state but left out the part about business and state.

 

[zanieladie]

Originally posted by: GTKeeper

My family and I are immigrants. I became a citizen in 2000 and it just blows me away that it seems its easier to just come here illegally than to get a legit visa and trying the 'legal way'.

I personally don't care if extra people come to this country. What I do care about is that all these illegals don't pay SS or Taxes and I have to foot the bill for their medical expenses and any other social support they get. That is just unfair to immigrants like me who came here legally and busted their a$$ off to get a legit job and have a career in the USA.

Although I was born in the USA, I am in agreement with you!

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed

Ok. How do you deport 12,000,000 people?

Over time and at a comfortable pace. It doesn't have to occur instantaneously. In your post, you've purposely constructed a strawman.

Again, read this..Acute labor shortages would result, especially in the ag sector. Giving amnesty to the illegals would also raise wages, thus low-income American workers and union workers would not have to bear the brunt of the illegal workforce out-bidding them for jobs. Poor Americans workers are seriously hurt by illegals as the situation stands now.

We could solve any seemingly and alleged acute labor shortages by employing the tens of millions of unemployed and underemployed Americans at higher wages. The market and the laws of supply and demand will solve the problem. Also, it might become economical for businesses to make better use of higher technology and automation that they didn't need to make in the past as a result of having a large supply of dirt cheap labor.

Now, remember, by not spending billions of taxpayer dollars on education for the children of illegals, health care for illegals' and their families, police, courts, and prisons for illegals who commit crimes, and the environmental costs of having a higher population in this country (the conveniently, often unacknowledged invisible "back-end" costs), we'll have the money we need to pay for higher wages for the Americans who would take these jobs.

It just doesn't make sense to me that the solution to a nation's economic problems is to import impoverished people. The U.S. already has tens of millions of impoverished people! Why do we need millions more?

 

[BMW540I6speed]

doesn't work. amnesty didn't work last time, it won't work this time. it rewards breaking the law and people who become illegals know this.

Let me clarify. I am well aware that the amnesty program of years ago didnt work as expected, but amnesty in a newer "form" is needed for some. I am NOT talking about amnesty for everyone.

You roll over the border in a burlap potato sack, jump out and yell amnesty..no

You come here illegally to suck off the gov. tit..no

you come here and just want to be a gangsta in LA or Miami..no

You come here with no skill and are not willing to work toward one..no

You come here and dont want to follow the laws of the US or its NEW immigration polices and rules..NO!

You come here with no skill but are willing to work hard in low paid farming type jobs..yes, with possible stipulations, such as temp. work visas where they can return to mexico and spend the money they eraned in the mexican economy, which would boost it and make it more attractive to stay there...THIS IS IMPORTANT, imo.

For example : 4 years ago a freind of mine started a auto body repair and painting shop, he was looking for 2 employees willing to work for lower wages and some long hours until the business got going. One was a graduating high school kid right out of tech school and the second was a LEGAL Mexican immigrant. He already had a small skill set in body sanding, good artistic qualities, fairy good english and most important was willing to work hard and learn so he could live in the US, prosper, be self sufficant, and help his family in Mexico...had a great attitude. We were sceptical, but he took a chance and hired him.

4 years later, the business is prospering and so is Manny, he is the best body sander/bondo guy and metal worker in the shop and is starting to master the paint booth. He is still willing to work extra hours (or 7 days a week)to get more projects done and has been training his new employees and taking work orders, etc..A model employee. For his efforts and dedication he now makes 45k a year, with a anuity for his future,rents his own 2 bed. condo. ,has his own car and has a girlfreind (who is american btw).He is totaly self sufficant. He now wants to help his sister come here, she also has goals to become either a nurses aid or a xray tech. She also would be coming here with a skill, hairdressing. The goal is for her to live with him, get a job part time at a saloon to help manny pay rent , share expenses and for schooling, for which he has already saved enough money to get her started with english lessons & nurseing school. A win win for both of them.

Another goal of his is to become an American citizen, still needs to work on his englsh to accomplish this, but is very close. Now, if these persons were illegal, I would be the first to step up for amnesty. This is a perfect example of what I am talking about when I say amnesty is needed in particular cases.

Over time and at a comfortable pace. It doesn't have to occur instantaneously. In your post, you've purposely constructed a strawman.

I suppose you could light that paragraph aflame in its literal sense, but I see you omitted the rest of that paragraph in you quote. Those points still stand.

We could solve any seemingly and alleged acute labor shortages by employing the tens of millions of unemployed and underemployed Americans at higher wages. The market and the laws of supply and demand will solve the problem. Also, it might become economical for businesses to make better use of higher technology and automation that they didn't need to make in the past as a result of having a large supply of dirt cheap labor.

See my example above, some small businesses need cheaper labor to get started and people willing to work. supply and demand might solve this in some cicumstances but not in others, your not looking at the big picture.

It just doesn't make sense to me that the solution to a nation's economic problems is to import impoverished people. The U.S. already has tens of millions of impoverished people! Why do we need millions more?

*sigh* we are not saying that we need more impoverished people, we dont. We are talking about the immigrants that already are here for a long period of time and are productive members of society. Seems to me that you are the one constructing the strawman here.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

Where is "racist irish comments" Irish DID riot, (not that they didnt have good reason) and they did a good amount of it too, some of the biggest most well known riots in american history were irish immigrants,

I should ignore twits like you who of course think "hillary" has ANYTHING to do with anyones views of anything...I have to say, congrats, you get the most clueless award for posters today. You and hillary seem to be the ones who should hook up.

Uhh, what are you frothing from the mouth about. What makes him frothing for suppossed racism any different from you frothing and acussing of soppossed racism. Why dont you get a tissue, clean your mouth up, stop name calling and engage in some honest intteligent debate with people that have different views than yourself.

For example: phalehorse74 started out in this thread saying no amnesty for anyone...ship em all back!, you could find a discriminatory tone in that or you could engage in some critical thinking and assume he is not seeing the big picture. Now, after some debate with others with different views on the subject, he is now supporting amnesty in certain instances. See how easy that was all it took was some presentation of views and facts in a civil manner. You seem like a smart guy, give honest, civil debate a try sometime, you might get someone to take your views seriously.

 

[kasia00]

We got a very weak Govt judgement..>
I say that Issuing Working permit and... Granting citizenship should be... 2 very diff things..

 

[orion23]

It's pathetic to hear people complain about illegal immigrants working hard for their money.

Why not cry about the LAZY AMERICAN CITIZENS that live off of welfare?

I'd rather have illegals getting up at 4 in the morning hoping to get a job than to keep on feeding the LAZY AMERICAN CITIZENS that just stay home and collect.

Oh yeah, illegals can file for taxes with special numbers assigned by the government.

And there is a difference between illegal and undocumented. Not everybody has to be made a citizen, but we really need to have everyone carry an ID such as a driver's license or a special document that proves identity.

 

[tooltime]

they work hard. i can see a case for letting them stay legally.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: orion23
It's pathetic to hear people complain about illegal immigrants working hard for their money.

Why not cry about the LAZY AMERICAN CITIZENS that live off of welfare?

I'd rather have illegals getting up at 4 in the morning hoping to get a job than to keep on feeding the LAZY AMERICAN CITIZENS that just stay home and collect.

Oh yeah, illegals can file for taxes with special numbers assigned by the government.

And there is a difference between illegal and undocumented. Not everybody has to be made a citizen, but we really need to have everyone carry an ID such as a driver's license or a special document that proves identity.

Yeah, we need all that cheap labor, but we have to limit the number of educated immigrants coming into the country because they might run down the wages of the LAZY AMERICAN MANAGMENT types. They might even be able to be CEO of a company for less then 25 million a year and a golden parachute clause.

 

[BriGy86]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74


#$^#%^ socialists like you are trying to ruin this damn country, and it's starting to piss me off! My vote would be to send you back to Mexico, with all of the illegals, as their escort and line-in advisor... you can sit around with them and pass the pipe all day! sound good?

palehorse, you are such a fool, you are the one ruining the country with your lazy mind sucking off your patriot pipe instead of thinking for yourself and blaming others for the same crap you do, your a immigrant too so like I said, you can shove it.

If you are full blooded native american and never broke one law in your life then go ahead and cast the first stone, if not you can stfu hypocrite.

that's a crappy arguement right there

if im born IN America how does that make me an immigrant? what country are they EVER going to deport me to?

i could care less about immigrants comming in legally, i would welcome them whole heartedly, but it the ILEGAL immigration that people are pissed about

and i still am failing to see how it is racist

 

[Puffnstuff]

Illegal immigration is the equivalent of breaking into another mans house. You roll the dice and you take your chances. In this case the home owner, the American people, is confronting the criminal and now the criminal wants to raise up and protest. I'm sorry but the constitution only covers American citizens and the right of assembly and free speech doesn't apply to those who are here illegally. Now with that said I know that there are illegal people here who do work hard and try not to draw attention to themselves. When hurricane Ivan rolled through my home town it was illegal labor that did most of the cleanup work. It was mexicans who reroofed my home and they worked hard and did a good job. The problem I see here is that there's a system in place for legal immigration to this country. When people are allowed to ignore that system and then are not penalized for it, what kind of message does that send to others who might be considering the same thing? The U.S. doesn't have unlimited resources and it does not owe the rest of the world anything and cannot be expected to do everything for everybody all at once. The real problem is the living conditions in these other countries and that is what needs to be addressed. Any sovereign country has the right to protect its borders and I believe that the U.S. should immediately seal off the illegal flow of people along the border with Mexico. If the flow doesn't stop then there is no such thing as border control. Mexico doesn't have a problem with sealing its southern border yet vocally condemns us for wanting to do the same. What hypocracy on their part. Mexicans aren't the only problem as the chinese are coming here in large numbers as well. Immigration control is not about race its about controlling the flow of people into your country no matter their origin. As for rounding them up last time I checked there was a ratio of about 10:1 so if the citizens exercised their right of citizens arrest we could catch them all pretty easily. Now I don't believe that we should do that however if illegal aliens want to march in our streets protesting our laws while holding foriegn flags causing civil unrest then I say round them up and ship them out right then and there. You can't pick and choose what laws you want to obey and if you enter another country then you should be prepared to obey their laws or suffer the consequences. How many times has an American citizen went abroad and commited a crime and was subject to the laws of that country? The underlying problem is poverty and it must be addressed by all nations equally. It's time for the other industrialized nations of the world to start shouldering more of the load.

 

[orion23]

Originally posted by: Puffnstuff
Illegal immigration is the equivalent of breaking into another mans house. You roll the dice and you take your chances. In this case the home owner, the American people, is confronting the criminal and now the criminal wants to raise up and protest. I'm sorry but the constitution only covers American citizens and the right of assembly and free speech doesn't apply to those who are here illegally. Now with that said I know that there are illegal people here who do work hard and try not to draw attention to themselves. When hurricane Ivan rolled through my home town it was illegal labor that did most of the cleanup work. It was mexicans who reroofed my home and they worked hard and did a good job. The problem I see here is that there's a system in place for legal immigration to this country. When people are allowed to ignore that system and then are not penalized for it, what kind of message does that send to others who might be considering the same thing? The U.S. doesn't have unlimited resources and it does not owe the rest of the world anything and cannot be expected to do everything for everybody all at once. The real problem is the living conditions in these other countries and that is what needs to be addressed. Any sovereign country has the right to protect its borders and I believe that the U.S. should immediately seal off the illegal flow of people along the border with Mexico. If the flow doesn't stop then there is no such thing as border control. Mexico doesn't have a problem with sealing its southern border yet vocally condemns us for wanting to do the same. What hypocracy on their part. Mexicans aren't the only problem as the chinese are coming here in large numbers as well. Immigration control is not about race its about controlling the flow of people into your country no matter their origin. As for rounding them up last time I checked there was a ratio of about 10:1 so if the citizens exercised their right of citizens arrest we could catch them all pretty easily. Now I don't believe that we should do that however if illegal aliens want to march in our streets protesting our laws while holding foriegn flags causing civil unrest then I say round them up and ship them out right then and there. You can't pick and choose what laws you want to obey and if you enter another country then you should be prepared to obey their laws or suffer the consequences. How many times has an American citizen went abroad and commited a crime and was subject to the laws of that country? The underlying problem is poverty and it must be addressed by all nations equally. It's time for the other industrialized nations of the world to start shouldering more of the load.

And I agree. Everything has a limit and I think tha limit has been reached. Now, as far as FOREING FLAGS display, I consider that an insult. Why do Americans put up with people flashing foreing flags all over the place? Cars, houses, on the streets... And if people are not willing to learn the language and become part of the american culture but rather try to change it to their liking, they need to go.
Many people deserve the right to stay though. Afterall, t is not so simple to become a US citizen. What we need to do is to take a look at our policy and restructure the whole process. AND THE BORDER NEEDS TO BE CLOSED, no question about it!

 

[daniel49]

Bush gets a bit hard headed. He was with harriot myers, then Dubai ports, and now imigration

he eventually capitulated on the first two He would be wise to capitulate on the latter.

 

[Mail5398]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: hysperion

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

It's not just their motivated, tired, or sick coming our way, it's also their drug-dealers, gangbangers, and otherwise undesirable folk... YAY!

All people have there own group of troublemakers, poverty makes more also, On a whole mexicans have been damn polite and law abiding immigrants if you compare them to the irish and their riots. Get a grip.

Save me your tirade how mexicans are lazy dirty crime ridden gangbangers and just call them beaners or something ok? They know what you really think and it shows.

Notice how he makes racial comments about the Irish who came here legally and calls others racist for harping on those who didn't follow the laws to come here........

If racism is involved on our part how come we don't have a problem with legal Mexican immigration. I am 100% against illegal immigration. My girlfriend of 5 years is half Mexican. Her mom is an illegal immigrant. I guess you could say my girlfriend's 3 older brother's and herself are anchor babies. Guess what I would deport her mom in an instand if it was my choice and her daughter knows my views and still chooses to date me.......Would I be in a 5-year relationship with a hispanic girl if I was racist? Probably not............And you can shove your racist Irish comments up you know where.....Don't disrespect my ancestors because you're infatuated with Hillary........

Where is "racist irish comments" Irish DID riot, (not that they didnt have good reason) and they did a good amount of it too, some of the biggest most well known riots in american history were irish immigrants,
Now how does pointing out a neutral fact about american history equate racism?

I should ignore twits like you who of course think "hillary" has ANYTHING to do with anyones views of anything...I have to say, congrats, you get the most clueless award for posters today. You and hillary seem to be the ones who should hook up.

I don't post often and usually enjoy reading posts. Your only reason to be on this board is to spew hate it seems like. You have no clue that you are doing it either. You think you can make the country better by calling everyone racists and rednecks. Nice job.

 

[astrosfan90]

I think the House version of the bill that the Majority Whip is pushing the one I tend to agree with more. It focuses more on the security aspects of the situation, which to me are among the most important concerns at hand.

 

[BriGy86]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: hysperion

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

It's not just their motivated, tired, or sick coming our way, it's also their drug-dealers, gangbangers, and otherwise undesirable folk... YAY!

All people have there own group of troublemakers, poverty makes more also, On a whole mexicans have been damn polite and law abiding immigrants if you compare them to the irish and their riots. Get a grip.

Save me your tirade how mexicans are lazy dirty crime ridden gangbangers and just call them beaners or something ok? They know what you really think and it shows.

Notice how he makes racial comments about the Irish who came here legally and calls others racist for harping on those who didn't follow the laws to come here........

If racism is involved on our part how come we don't have a problem with legal Mexican immigration. I am 100% against illegal immigration. My girlfriend of 5 years is half Mexican. Her mom is an illegal immigrant. I guess you could say my girlfriend's 3 older brother's and herself are anchor babies. Guess what I would deport her mom in an instand if it was my choice and her daughter knows my views and still chooses to date me.......Would I be in a 5-year relationship with a hispanic girl if I was racist? Probably not............And you can shove your racist Irish comments up you know where.....Don't disrespect my ancestors because you're infatuated with Hillary........

Where is "racist irish comments" Irish DID riot, (not that they didnt have good reason) and they did a good amount of it too, some of the biggest most well known riots in american history were irish immigrants,
Now how does pointing out a neutral fact about american history equate racism?

I should ignore twits like you who of course think "hillary" has ANYTHING to do with anyones views of anything...I have to say, congrats, you get the most clueless award for posters today. You and hillary seem to be the ones who should hook up.

i'd like to know where all the racist comments against hispanics are, that we are all appearently making.

isn't illegal immigration also a fact?

i still fail to see how opposing illegal immigration is even remotely racist

 

[erwos]

I think expelling all illegal immigrants that are already here is a bit uncalled for. The issue is controlling our borders so that the problem gets under control for the future.

My own solution:
1. Secure and control the border. This really needs to be top priority.
2. Establish procedures for easily repatriating illegal immigrants who run into criminal trouble, if they aren't already in place. There's really no need to deport immigrants who aren't causing issues, but if you're in this country illegally and causing problems, it's time to head back home.
3. Establish some sort of naturalization process. I agree with the general sentiment that you shouldn't reward someone for breaking the law, so some fines should be in order, but it really does serve our best interests to integrate the people who are here into society.
4. Speed up the legal entry process. Play favorites - we should be favoring high-education immigrants (eg, BSc/BA or better). Hell, I'd vote to pay for that sort of people to come and live here. We should also extend this to foreign students in our colleges, too.

I don't buy this argument of racism. The real issue is that many of the illegal immigrants are poor and relatively uneducated, not that they're largely Hispanic. If we had a flood of middle-class, mostly-Hispanic Ph.Ds sneaking over the borders into our country, I doubt nearly as many people would be screaming to deport them back to where they came from, and with good reason.

Also, as a historical note, this country has never had immigration account for the majority of population growth, to the best of my knowledge. To say that immigrants built this country is a bit misleading. They've certainly had major contributions, though!

-Erwos

 

[CessnaFlyer]

I really don't see a reason to continue immigration. We have 300 million people in this country, we don't need anymore! Stop all immigration, then find all illegals in this country, and execute them!

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Witling
GTKeeper, where do you get off with the statement that "these illegals don't pay SS or Taxes?" If you get wages in the U.S. the employer is going to want to deduct them as an expense. The only way the employer can do that is to withhold tax and SS. Now perhaps the casual day laborers who get picked up for a job each day and are usually paid in cash don't pay taxes but everyone who works in a packing plant, landscape crew, or restaurant sure as heck pays it. Perhaps the reason the elected officials don't "represent the people" is that the people have their head where the sun doesn't shine.

How does one pay SS without a SS#? How do you file a tax return without a SS#?

Becasue that is BS, you can buy SS numbers in any city so you can work, I have never known a immigrant not to have one, and yes they pay taxes too and get double screwed as they can not file for a return.

And yes, it is about racism and nothing less, who the hell are a bunch of immigrants to tell current immigrants they are not good enough to be americans?

And dont start with the legal strawman, you have ALL broken some law in your life and if YOU didnt get away with it youd be just as much a "illegal", except the crime these people committed was trying to feed their familys and work.

No, they are screwing me when I try to feed my family. They can send home a years wages free and clear for every year they work here and after 20 years of that they can go back to their own country and retire rich and young.

They could give a ****** less about me or our country, so I don't give a damn about them. Send them back where they came from and the sooner the better.

no doubt!

I hope you noticed that it's not the American flag they are flying in their protests! that says it all... we're being used by a bunch of criminals, and socialists like Steeplerot are the enablers!

There are plenty of american flags at those protests, so you are a liar, and plenty of rebel flags flying over the south by "good americans" so like I said, you can stick your hypocricy.

Sure, there were plenty of American flags at the protests - because people were told to bring them! (LINK) Believe it or not, there are legal immigrants who don't have to be told to wave the U.S. flag at a political rally.

A organizer always reminds people of what is appropriate for the event, signs, flags, etc.

And damn right they brought mexican flags, the flag to them represents their culture and there culture is under ATTACK by racists in this country whipped up by a feeding frenzy of hate, people who have done nothing less then work hard.

These people have fed, washed our clothes, cooked our food, to only suddenly be spit on, damn right they are saying they are a proud people and do not deserve this becasue our system is corrupt.

If they were STILL IN MEXICO, their culture would be under attack. News Flash.... They aren't in Mexico anymore. Americans consider them attackers on our culture.

At least learn English before sneaking over. I'm getting tired of going to the store and trying to buy something and I have to move the item around because it has two labels, Spanish and English. I'm also tired of calling places and getting an automated service and then having to listen to everything twice, once in English and then again in Spanish.

If they are so hard working, they need to mix in a few English lessons. At least if you are going to suck the life out of our economy, learn some English and learn how to be an American.

 

[brandonbull]

Sure they work. I'd work hard at digging ditches if someone paid me $100/hr. Huge groups of illegals send large portions of their money beack to Mexico and other countries. The average American can't get by on $5 -$6 /hr. Factor in the exchange rate and the cost of living in Mexico and then get back to me in how much that is in US money and we'll see how lazy American workers would be for the equivalent amount of money.

 

[piasabird]

I have had several employers state that they pay their Mexican workers over $9.00 an Hour because they do better work and show up every day. So one thing to keep in mind is that Mexican workers do not all make minimum wage. If you are assuming this you are deluded.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74


#$^#%^ socialists like you are trying to ruin this damn country, and it's starting to piss me off! My vote would be to send you back to Mexico, with all of the illegals, as their escort and line-in advisor... you can sit around with them and pass the pipe all day! sound good?

palehorse, you are such a fool, you are the one ruining the country with your lazy mind sucking off your patriot pipe instead of thinking for yourself and blaming others for the same crap you do, your a immigrant too so like I said, you can shove it.

If you are full blooded native american and never broke one law in your life then go ahead and cast the first stone, if not you can stfu hypocrite.

Below is a true story on last nights news cast in Denver.

on March 26th a Logan County deupty made a routine traffic stop, the guy he stopped had drugs and was arrested. well this guy is an illegal alien who has been deported 4 times, has a extensive criminal background with drug dealing and is a heroin addict. THis guy also has a serious festering wound on his arm that was exposing the bone. he was sent to the hospital for treatment. Well Logan county has a annual budget of $70K a year to pay for inmate medical needs. ICE would not take him until he was 100% health.

as of yesterday this illegal aliens medical bill is at $290,000. guess who is paying for that. the citizens of Logan county thats who, in fact the sheriff said he is going to have to cut a lot of stuff and maybe even have to let a deupty go to pay the bill.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74


#$^#%^ socialists like you are trying to ruin this damn country, and it's starting to piss me off! My vote would be to send you back to Mexico, with all of the illegals, as their escort and line-in advisor... you can sit around with them and pass the pipe all day! sound good?

palehorse, you are such a fool, you are the one ruining the country with your lazy mind sucking off your patriot pipe instead of thinking for yourself and blaming others for the same crap you do, your a immigrant too so like I said, you can shove it.

If you are full blooded native american and never broke one law in your life then go ahead and cast the first stone, if not you can stfu hypocrite.

Below is a true story on last nights news cast in Denver.

on March 26th a Logan County deupty made a routine traffic stop, the guy he stopped had drugs and was arrested. well this guy is an illegal alien who has been deported 4 times, has a extensive criminal background with drug dealing and is a heroin addict. THis guy also has a serious festering wound on his arm that was exposing the bone. he was sent to the hospital for treatment. Well Logan county has a annual budget of $70K a year to pay for inmate medical needs. ICE would not take him until he was 100% health.

as of yesterday this illegal aliens medical bill is at $290,000. guess who is paying for that. the citizens of Logan county thats who, in fact the sheriff said he is going to have to cut a lot of stuff and maybe even have to let a deupty go to pay the bill.

swell. that raises my "pissed off meter" a few more notches.... damnit.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74


#$^#%^ socialists like you are trying to ruin this damn country, and it's starting to piss me off! My vote would be to send you back to Mexico, with all of the illegals, as their escort and line-in advisor... you can sit around with them and pass the pipe all day! sound good?

palehorse, you are such a fool, you are the one ruining the country with your lazy mind sucking off your patriot pipe instead of thinking for yourself and blaming others for the same crap you do, your a immigrant too so like I said, you can shove it.

If you are full blooded native american and never broke one law in your life then go ahead and cast the first stone, if not you can stfu hypocrite.

Below is a true story on last nights news cast in Denver.

on March 26th a Logan County deupty made a routine traffic stop, the guy he stopped had drugs and was arrested. well this guy is an illegal alien who has been deported 4 times, has a extensive criminal background with drug dealing and is a heroin addict. THis guy also has a serious festering wound on his arm that was exposing the bone. he was sent to the hospital for treatment. Well Logan county has a annual budget of $70K a year to pay for inmate medical needs. ICE would not take him until he was 100% health.

as of yesterday this illegal aliens medical bill is at $290,000. guess who is paying for that. the citizens of Logan county thats who, in fact the sheriff said he is going to have to cut a lot of stuff and maybe even have to let a deupty go to pay the bill.

I don't know how small logan county is, but a prisoner medical budget incapable of dealing with one serious injury to one person has to be considered inadequate