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nemesismk2

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Originally posted by: Johnbear007
Im so tired of these stupid companies trying to come back to gaming. Matrox, S3 whoever. They all suck. EITHER MAKE A GOOD PRODUCT OR LEAVE AND STOP WASTING OUR TIME.

Sorry, crappy products just piss me off.

I don't think the Volari is a good product and it probably never will be but if it helps keep prices down then that's a good thing isn't it?

You get pissed off at companies trying to release products, I think you should spend more time offline and go into the real world sometime! ;)
 

nRollo

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I know the prices are changed now but just the fact that Tom's says that 449$ is "rather inexpensive" just again goes to show what an out of touch bafoon he is.

Do you mean he's a "buffoon"?

Tom is such a chode:

Hmmmm.
Tom: Medical Dr., wealthy, successful, has had one of the longest running computer websites on the net.

JohnBear: Bad video cards anger him.

I see what you mean.
 
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the idea is there and i think its a good logical idea.........2xGPU = better than one.....shame its jus been poorly executed so far
 
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Originally posted by: blazer78
Originally posted by: Johnbear007
Im so tired of these stupid companies trying to come back to gaming. Matrox, S3 whoever. They all suck. EITHER MAKE A GOOD PRODUCT OR LEAVE AND STOP WASTING OUR TIME.

Sorry, crappy products just piss me off.

parhelia 2 is coming out :p , hope it does kill all the competition, cuz sharp 2d images and 16x frag AA rulez, and matrox surround gaming :p. Matrox is the inventor of many 3d technologies, think it was first to make dual head :p and evbm =)

I hope it doesn't, because Matrox considers 30fps to be "acceptable".

They should stick to cleaning house in the workstation segment and be happy with it. :D

- M4H
 
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Originally posted by: Rollo
Hmmmm.
Tom: Medical Dr., wealthy, successful, has had one of the longest running bullsh!t-filled FUD-packing product-whoring sorry excuse for a computer websites on the net.

JohnBear: Bad video cards anger him.

I see what you mean.

Edit for truth. ;)

- M4H
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Johnbear007
Im so tired of these stupid companies trying to come back to gaming. Matrox, S3 whoever. They all suck. EITHER MAKE A GOOD PRODUCT OR LEAVE AND STOP WASTING OUR TIME.

Sorry, crappy products just piss me off.

You're a moron. I don't know how anybody can say that more competition is bad. 5 years ago, you could say the same thing about ATI and their Rage Fury Maxx.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Johnbear007
Im so tired of these stupid companies trying to come back to gaming. Matrox, S3 whoever. They all suck. EITHER MAKE A GOOD PRODUCT OR LEAVE AND STOP WASTING OUR TIME.

Sorry, crappy products just piss me off.

Ummm, you don't know much about Matrox then. The G400 Max was smoking back in the day. And the Parahelia, while not the fastest card out when it came out, was respectable. But gaming never has been their man market. They shoot towards content creation desktop jockeys. They've got the best 2D quality in the industry and triple head display output. Three monitors from one card is quite a feat.
 

RollWave

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Originally posted by: blazer78
Originally posted by: Johnbear007
Im so tired of these stupid companies trying to come back to gaming. Matrox, S3 whoever. They all suck. EITHER MAKE A GOOD PRODUCT OR LEAVE AND STOP WASTING OUR TIME.

Sorry, crappy products just piss me off.

parhelia 2 is coming out :p , hope it does kill all the competition, cuz sharp 2d images and 16x frag AA rulez, and matrox surround gaming :p. Matrox is the inventor of many 3d technologies, think it was first to make dual head :p and evbm =)


I only wish they'd make a tru gamers card, Iwant to try matrox so bad but I cant afford to spend a %$#$load of money on a card that wont play the new games!
 
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Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: Johnbear007
Im so tired of these stupid companies trying to come back to gaming. Matrox, S3 whoever. They all suck. EITHER MAKE A GOOD PRODUCT OR LEAVE AND STOP WASTING OUR TIME.

Sorry, crappy products just piss me off.

You're a moron. I don't know how anybody can say that more competition is bad. 5 years ago, you could say the same thing about ATI and their Rage Fury Maxx.

Not to defuse your rant at the source, but that's a different situation.

As sparkyclarky mentioned, the G400 Max kicked some serious ass back in the day. And ATI's Rage chips were good on their own accords with hardware MPEG2 and other nice features. These companies are allowed a little screwup now and again - the MAXX, the attempt at targeting the Parhelia to gamers ... that was an error in judgement.

But if you're trying to hack a new chunk out of the market, you'd better damn well make a good first impression. Hell, even the Xabre series got its little piece of the integrated-graphics pie, and we all know that we'd rather eat bees than play anything past Quake 3 on them. :p

Using hacked drivers to brutalize image quality in specific benchmark-targeted games does NOT constitute a "good first impression" at all - more so when even with the hacks you can barely keep pace. If they'd taken some of that money they threw at advertising ... "Not one ... BUT TWO!!!!1!1!one!1!1! Crappy DX9 Processors!" and thrown it back at R&D, they might have been able to come up with something worthwhile. As it is, I'd rather see a GhettoTech "FX5200 SLI" in my machine than the Volari.

- M4H
 

nRollo

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Mercenary:
You are way out of line and way off base with your "THG loves the Volari" BS.

The truth is at THG
The Volari Duo V8 Ultra leaves us with a very mixed first impression
That's not "loving" it, it's not even positive.

Since this benchmark has little to do with the real gameplay performance in the game, the following results made with custom timedemos are much more meaningful. The Volari Duo V8 takes a major performance nosedive and falls back to the last place.
Makes me want to buy one.
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The Volari Duo V8 Ultra scores well in 3DMark 2003, but the quality of the rendered images is very bad.
More THG "loving" the Volari, right, Mercenary?

Etc.

I'd say the one spreading "bullsh!t-filled FUD-packing product-whoring" info is Mercenary for Hire, not THG.

 
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Originally posted by: Rollo
I'd say the one spreading "bullsh!t-filled FUD-packing product-whoring" info is Mercenary for Hire, not THG.

Firstly, it's only BS when it's inaccurate - and unless they've invented BIOS flashes for "Crappy Hardware" Volari still blows various woodland animals for pocketchange.

This is a proper review. They see some stuff that doesn't fly right, they start digging, whereas THG simply throws in a few advertisments midpage. Hint - The only other company with "Extreme" in it's graphic lingo is Intel.

- M4H
 

boran

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man, this is the card that invented Anti-Anti-Aliasing. that just HAS to be a premiere and big kudos to whatever jerk tought that sh|t up. I mean tweaking the LOD and texture detail are dirty enough, but actually rendering at a lower res and upscaling, what were they thinking... and then they STILL sucked I wouldnt pay anything over $100 for this card cous anything from $100 onwards will beat this card down and keep stomping onnit till it's flat as a pie.
 
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Originally posted by: boran
man, this is the card that invented Anti-Anti-Aliasing. that just HAS to be a premiere and big kudos to whatever jerk tought that sh|t up. I mean tweaking the LOD and texture detail are dirty enough, but actually rendering at a lower res and upscaling, what were they thinking... and then they STILL sucked I wouldnt pay anything over $100 for this card cous anything from $100 onwards will beat this card down and keep stomping onnit till it's flat as a pie.

Hell, you can get a geForce FX5200 for about $50 these days, no need to spend $100 to walk all over XGI. ;)

- M4H
 

BFG10K

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id take it, sell it, and buy a 9800 with the $$ left over
The problem is finding somone who wants to buy it.

I don't know how anybody can say that more competition is bad.
Good competition is good. Bad competition is a waste of time.
 

CubanlB

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As I remeber the 2 chip design is horridly inefficient so they are gonna cost way to much to even consider buying one. But, wont the single chip cards be a WAY better card for the dollar, and maybe could compete with a 5200 or 9200se or something? I just dont want Volari's first attemptto be 100% suxor :p
 

RollWave

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I think that they will figure it out by their 3rd gen card. Drivers by then wont need to be "optimized" or anything like that because it'll perform same as ATI and Nvidia, everyone is way too angry right now to have patience.
 

blazer78

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lol and all of u guys say that 30fps is not smooth? 30fps is smooth to the eye.... matrox rulz!!!! , best image quality out there!