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Robor

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Well, George walked me through some advanced configuration of my Gizmo. Right after we finished I called my dad from my SR phone line. He couldn't tell I was on a VOIP phone - said it was crystal clear. Then I Emailed him a 4MB file while on the call. It took longer than usual (expected of course) but no breakup whatsoever. Then I ran a speed test on Broadband reports. Again, no breakup whatsoever and my speed was 3314 down / 130 up. Then I called a friend and he said I had some some "chops" when I talked but nothing major. Now for the bad news... With my gizmo in front of my router my internet connection bounced up and down all night. If I logged into the gizmo and reset it the connection came back immediately. It appears a call to SunRocket for a new gizmo is in order.

Thank you for the help George! :) :D

 

astrosfan90

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Nice, Robor, glad to see you got things working!

I just checked out the SR page to see this--more good news for international callers who are considering switching to SunRocket.

https://sunrocket.com/sign_up/signup.do?tcd=IntlCrd

Sign Up Today and Get $100 in FREE
International Calling!

Up to 55 FREE Hours
to Any Destination

There's another $100 saved for international callers. Any further questions on whether this is a hot deal or not? :p
 

georgepa

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Hey, you know the spiel: If you don't use any of the advanced features they aren't worth it anyway. If you don't need the minutes (past 200) it isn't worth it having unlimited calling. If you already have phones the free Unidens aren't worth it. If you don't make any international calls why would a $100 int'l call allowance promotion be anything that would constitute a "Hot Deal"?

The truth is that this particular thread has become a chat community of sorts with folks checking in regularly, giving each other tech tips, service news and helpful information. There are a good number of people who are here to discuss in earnest without a lot of the ridiculous commentary that goes on over at DSLReports. This thread has taken on a life of its own with 92 pages and counting. The "Hot Deals" portion of this thread (and the discussion thereof) has long passed. Some of the newbies with a chip on their shoulders probably don't realize the cordial direction the thread had taken since page 45 or so (even though opinions vary widely, as they should.)
 

jjm

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Georgepa:

Your latest references are to 911 service. As I said in my previous post, other than 911 warnings, SR does nothing to warn a potential purchaser that it might be a good idea to have back up service in case of reliability issues due to SR. In fact, the bulk of its warning, as you quoted above, speaks to the general pitfalls and limitations of an internet connection, not to any warnings about SR's own potential for problems. It would take a pretty decent leap for the potential purchaser to infer that there may be reliability issues with SR itself from the warnings it provides regarding 911 service.

I stand by my original point. The point you first tried to make had nothing to do with 911 service. C'mon, you stretched things a bit and now you are trying to back track. Give it up. You cheapen your position when you do that.

As to the defense of your GM point, is that what you really want to stand by? And why did you just switch gears to a Broadvox complaint? Please answer the point directly or let it go.

But I will offer this. SR is obviously a hot issue at the moment and continues to be. It is very relevant for people to post about their current experiences as they should be informative to others thinking about the service - even what you think of as whining. On the flip side, some might think your praise is too over the top. To each his (or her) own, but let people post what they want without criticizing how many posts they have or questioning their motives.

An update on my experience:

In addition to the outages (yes I have had more than the major ones, and the others occurred exactly at times I wanted to use SR) and the lower voice quality, new problems have come up. I am not sure if it's the gizmo or something that SR is doing, but the gizmo has required a reboot 4 days in a row to clear up problems with my internet connection. In fact, when I take the gizmo out of the chain, things work just fine on my cable connection. Especially during the week, I really have no time available to devote to technical issues such as this.

Many may be satisfied spending time trouble-shooting these things, but there are others who have better ways of spending their time. (That's also why I never even considered dropping the POTS line.) The possible need to periodically trouble-shoot should be another factor potential buyers consider as it does cost time.

 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: georgepa
Hey, you know the spiel: If you don't use any of the advanced features they aren't worth it anyway. If you don't need the minutes (past 200) it isn't worth it having unlimited calling. If you already have phones the free Unidens aren't worth it. If you don't make any international calls why would a $100 int'l call allowance promotion be anything that would constitute a "Hot Deal"?

Yeah, well, nay-sayers will be nay-sayers. For me, this would absolutely rock. I would easily use those minutes in short order.
 

RideFree

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There's another $100 saved for international callers. Any further questions on whether this is a hot deal or not? :D:D:D Thank you Astrosfan(s)
Geo.
RE: your post above...good point. Also your help to Robor was exemplary. But enough gushing, lest I be labeled a fan-boy.
Besides, I need to run the post count up so, per the following... :D:D:D
 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Originally posted by: STiSev
Can I use VoIP in a place with no Internet?[/g] My mom's work has a telephone line, but no internet access.Simple answer = no. Broadband is a required element of VoIP.
Quite simply, no longer true!NetZero has it plastered all over their home page!

(Now, you can give up your broadband and go directly to DUN!) wink! wink!
Oh, thank heavens, now the ability to freak out more effectively! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

georgepa

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jjm-

This discussion is moot. You not only chose to ignore the non-911 service limitation portion of the TERMS OF SERVICE AGREEMENT, you also did not answer my question whether you are ALSO actively "warning" others on any of the other service or product sites you have found not working well for you in the past. Why would broadband phone be any different than cell phone service or the cell phone itself? Yet, for some reason an extremely inexpensive phone service has the complainers up in arms, angry beyond belief while other services or products more expensive than average have people just silently move on to new providers without an army of complainers issuing dire warnings about the likes of Verizon, T-mobile, HP, Sony, Nextel, Craig, Crown, Walmart-House-Brands, etc. If it does not fit move on already.

"Many may be satisfied spending time trouble-shooting these things, but there are others who have better ways of spending their time."

Just MAYBE we don't spend ANY time trouble-shooting these things, thus we are satisfied without such hyperbole. Geez. :frown:
 

georgepa

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Hey, robor-

It was nice chatting with you on the phone yesterday. Let me know what the new gizmo brings. Be sure to tell them that you are a computer tech and tried everything and that you insist on immediate shipment of the gizmo.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: georgepa
Hey, robor-

It was nice chatting with you on the phone yesterday. Let me know what the new gizmo brings. Be sure to tell them that you are a computer tech and tried everything and that you insist on immediate shipment of the gizmo.

Well, tonight was the straw that broke the camel's back. My call to SR tech support went like this...

1. Call SR and choose tech support option. Get message that hold time might be extended. :|

2. Prepare to be very angry after long wait time but get a response in less than a minute. :)

3. Give my account details and go through explanation of my situation - about 5 minutes. There's the usual back and forth about connection and network setup and I give the details. Guy on the other end does nothing more than pass me to a "tech support person". I thought I was speaking to technical support (that's the option I chose...???). :confused:

4. Get tech support agent in less than a minute. I give my account details again and explain my situation again. This takes about 15 minutes of, "yep, already did that". In the end I stress the fact that I'm a tech and I don't want to repeat troubleshooting things any further. I just want a new Gizmo sent to me to see if it fixes the problem. I get put on hold for about 5 minutes. :roll:

5. Guy comes back and says I'm going to be passed to an engineer. We're now 30 minutes into this and I don't have time to talk to an engineer. I just want my Gizmo exchanged. He puts me on hold again and comes back to say only the engineer can determine if I need a new Gizmo. I repeat that I'm leaving for dinner and can not stay to talk on the phone but get transferred anyway (pass the buck). :disgust:

6. I hang up. Considering all my calls to SR tech support without a resolution I would think that sending me a Gizmo wouldn't be an unreasonable request but I guess i was wrong. Well, they lost a customer. I'm done now. I'll be moving on as soon as my number is ported to Vonage. :|

 

bostonkarl

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Go check out 100+ reviews from lots of different perspectives. Good, bad, and in the middle. These aren't the same stale posts from the same old people -- these are from lots of different folks from all over that talk about their personal SR experience. My suggestion is to weed out the bashing bad and the hyper good. An informed consumer is a smart one. Right now, the common theme is that SR's reliability isn't up to snuff. It rates dead last out of the 15 providers. Let's hope it improves. Tech support also remains an issue, unfortunately.

SR ranking last in reliability at the well regarded DSLReports is a statement of fact, by the way. Again, as folks tend to discuss "is such and such a hot deal" on this board, I like to consider if SR service (beyond the free phones) is a good deal. I tend to consider facts instead of a couple of people saying, essentially, "trust me". My conclusion, as stated before, is that the SR service is okay deal depending on one's needs. That's somehow considered bashing SR (or complaining of all things) in this thread, btw, for some reason. "SR Service is OKAY" = Complaining. Whatever.

While someone has posted here that he only considers a day long outage sufficiently problematic, I personally don't like an outage when I want to use the phone. That's my threshold. I prefer for the phone to be ready for me, and not me to have to wait for the phone. But differerent strokes to different folks. Again, be an informed consumer.

Regarding SR, there are postings all over the place that stretch/ignore facts. They say hyped-up things like "such and such service is the ONLY one to do such and such". When challenged, there is a big backpeddle, somethhing to the effect of "Oh, I can't possibly know what the other services provide". Well then, one wonders, why was the original statement made. Rather sloppy with facts, I suppose.

However, as a smart consumer, get the facts. Ignore the bashers. Ingore the hype. Read the reviews and know your options.

ed. typos

 

RideFree

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bostonkarl,
In light of Robor's experience, everything you have said could be taken as gospel. Well put for an iconoclast. :D:D:D
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: RideFree
bostonkarl,
In light of Robor's experience, everything you have said could be taken as gospel. Well put for an iconoclast. :D:D:D

The sad thing is all I wanted is a replacement Gizmo to try out and see if it fixed my issues. After 30+ minutes on the phone that didn't happen. Not only that I didn't get a call back or Email on the issue. Yes, I hung up but I made it very clear to the 2nd guy I spoke with that I was walking out the door to dinner (I was late as it was).

I really wish SunRocket worked for me like it has for some others in this thread. It's cheap and loaded with features. George even showed me how to anable the 2nd line so I could have 2 outgoing calls at once. That's pretty cool.

I know I said I drew the line in the sand and the camel with the last straw crossed it last night but am going to call back today after work and explain my last call and tell them either send me a Gizmo or I'm done, period. No troubleshooting and no getting passed up the ladder - just swap my Gizmo. I'll report back later.
 

georgepa

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Robor-

Insist that you are a tech and tried everything and that you could not be without your phone. Make it appear like you are dead in the water (in other words, claim that it does not come on at all, even upon reboot.) Tell the CS rep that others you talked to have not had to wait for a call-back from a Level 3 tech and that you would not accept anything but an immediate setup to ship out a new gizmo. The CS rep wanted to set me up for a call-back from Level 3 but after insisting the guy checked with a supervisor, then came back and changed it to immediate. He made me plug it in in his presence to verify that it was shot, then sent out a gizmo right away.


Bostonkarl-

Honestly, the backpeddal is coming from you. You accused me of not being truthful when I stated that there is no other VOIP provider that allows the user to try out the service not costing a single dime, either via cancellation cost at the end or other fees at the start. I asked for simple proof of your assertion, you have not come up with it. The simple, unshakeable truth is that there is NOT a single VOIP provider (other than SR) that allows a user to try out the service without costing a single dime. That is at the start and EVEN throughout the first 31 days. You know that to be fact, otherwise you would have named at least ONE to provide a valid comparison. Even free Internet phone stuff like Skype require the purchase of a headset at the very least, if you in a bout of overzealoutry considered making P2P services like Skype, which after all require the use of "always on" computers and headsets, your VOIP comparison. I would say that by failing to produce a single VOIP provider that supports your dishonest bash you have destroyed your already shaky credibility on this forum.

Folks, ignore the shrill bashers. What makes this deal a very HOT DEAL is the fact that SR is the only VOIP provider that does not tie up a single dime of yours for trying them out. They pay for shipping, they have no setup fee, they have no cancellation fee or equipment to buy. They even send you 2 free phones so you have everything you need to give this a try (aside from a high-speed internet connection, of course.) If it works great then the trial was obviously a success. If it does not work out or is not what you need in a VOIP then you can cancel within 31 days and have not paid a singularly dime, received a months worth of phone service for free and got to keep a nice Uniden phone set with 2 handsets, speakerphones, caller ID, intercom, etc. After the 31 day trial period has passed you can cancel anytime without penalty and only pay what you used, receive a prorated refund of the unused portion of your $199.
 

bostonkarl

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The simple, unshakeable truth is that there is NOT a single VOIP provider (other than SR) that allows a user to try out the service without costing a single dime."

Not true by a long shot. This is simply not true. False. Bzzt. Thanks for playing.

And rather than list several obvious conter examples that everyone who reads these forums knows about, I'll leave it as a very easy exercise to to reader. I'm not interested in pursuing the path of derailing this thread by providing an example and then discussing the merits of said service -- but, but, but, that services doesn't have ya-diddy-ya. (However, I'll give you a BIG hint as to one of them. There is a certain service that has been discussed recently on this forum that is free -- you don't even give credit card information to obtain an account and a US phone number. Free. Not a dime.)

My point is that the poster provides misinformation and should not be considered, as authoritative and bullying as he sounds, the end all and be all of VOIP information.

(If you're genuinely interested in what freebies there are and what they do and don't do, give me a PM over at DSLReports. I'm happy to take that discussion offline and not derail the topic at hand: "Is SR a hot deal?".)

The fact is that the above quoted statement is WRONG. The post is either misinformed or deliberately misleading. Anybody who has followed the VOIP provider threads recently knows this. The credibility of the poster writing such statements should be called into question.

I'll put in another plug for all the good infomation over at DSLReports. There is a lot more balance for a reader interested in evaluating services. Ignore the SR bashers and ignore the SR hype. Make an informed decision based on fact, not on what one or two posters happen to say.
 

jjm

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Georgepa:

I see you have resorted to trying to dismiss me. I gather it's because you are unable to admit that you were caught, shall we say, stretching the truth. Fair enough, but it speaks volumes as to the weight people might want to give to your opinions here.

The simple, plain-for-all-readers-to-see facts are that you said:

SR does NOT sell itself as a POTS replacement. In fact they make clear that IF you choose to make it your POTS replacement (as many have done and are happy with) then be sure to have some sort of reliable backup available, preferrably a pared down, measured POTS line or cell.

When you were asked to justify this statement, you referred to SR's service agreement that says no such thing. It speaks only about potential shortfalls in 911 service. Even with the evidence in black and white, you fail to back off.

And then you said:

You misunderstood. Nowhere did I imply that SR provides cautions. They may not implicitly state that they may be subject to their own outages, but come on. That is not the typical idea behind VOIP. Yes, SR had some outages in the past, but hardware upgrades and redundancy installs are supposed to keep them to a minimum, and if SR did the necessary that should be the case.

Just these quotes alone demonstrate inconsistency on your part and a crude attempt to justify your point by claiming you were a victim of misunderstanding. To be charitable, I tried to suggest that you were just a bit too enthused with your praise. But it appears you have no capacity to accept a graceful way out.

Please show us all where in the service agreement, other than for 911 service, does SR "make clear that IF you choose to make it your POTS replacement (as many have done and are happy with) then be sure to have some sort of reliable backup available, preferrably a pared down, measured POTS line or cell."

Further, your GM comparison was just silly, but you dodged that as well by trying to offer another example as if that were an answer.

See a pattern yet? I suspect you do not, but other readers do.

Your final comment about trouble-shooting was just as odd as some of your others. When did I state that everyone has had to engage in trouble-shooting? Can you read? All I offered was the suggestion that a potential purchaser of the service should weigh the potential need to have to trouble-shoot problems when considering a purchase. Are you suggesting a potential customer should ignore that possibility?

Enjoy being a zealot fan of SR if you wish. If that gives your life meaning, by all means don't limit yourself.

Most of the rest of the world will take a healthier, more critical approach to these things and can acknowledge that real problems exist. And the problems for many will far exceed the presumed financial benefit. For others, the trade-off will be tolerable.

My current SR experience:

Assuming others don't want to bother with the first part of this post, here is an update on my current issue.

My wife tells me she had to reboot the gizmo twice again yesterday because the gizmo had slowed things to a crawl. I still don't have the time to trouble-shoot this sort of thing, but I am at the point now where I will just pull the plug on SR if it continues. It's just not worth the time and effort. In my experience, SR is a novelty and still is not ready for prime time.
 

banditt414

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OK. The facts are VOIP is still in its infant state. My guess is most on here rememeber the commercials from AT&T letting everyone know that they updated their network in the 80's so that when you make a long distance call you "can even hear a pin drop." Well All and I repeat All VOIP companies are miles from announcing that. Major companies that own their own network, circuits, and are able to monitor all traffic to determine what QOS settings are needed still don't achieve perfect call quality. They still get dropped calls. They still get echo some of the time. Seeing that Vonage, packet8, Sunrocket are trying to provide VOIP to home users where the user owns their own routers, are running pc's with filesharing and God knows what else. Bottom line it is just impossible to expect perfect service all of the time at this point. I don't. I knew that going in. My wife on the other hand doesn't understand that and is still getting used to the fact that monster internet use will impact our phone calls. But she is the worst critic. I can tell you this. Jumping into VOIP at its infant stage will be frustrating, but without everyone of you jumping in, then VOIP for home users will never take off. That is the bottom line. You can compare the companies out there all you want. All have their good points and bad points. YOU just have to decide what you are willing to deal with at this stage. If an occasional dropped call or call with echo is not good enough for you. Then you need to call SBC, Verizon or who ever was your original LEC and have then sign you back up.

B out.
 

jjm

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Wasn't the pin drop thing Sprint?

Regardless, banditt414, you state the point very well. There is a clear trade-off, and, in a sense, you are sacrificing for the future benefit. That is another point potential customers should consider.
 

georgepa

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Look, all the service HAS to be is completely free without any cost to the prospective user as is true with SR to qualify to make your rant correct and me wrong. FREE, not a dime. That includes any fees or hardware expenditure needed to make it work, of course. You are providing a huge disservice to someone interested in VOIP with claims that are simply untrue.

Let me reiterate: You are completely wrong. Please stick to the constant bashing instead of challenging posts from others. At the very least be sure to be factually right. The reason you don't care to name even a single VOIP provider that does not create any expenditures (not a dime, as I put it) to someone interested in trying it out is because there is none. The provider you referenced REQUIRES hardware most of us don't have when trying out a service, such as an adapter. Aside from the fact that programming of such a device is cumbersome to many, especially non-techies, there is always at least some cost involved with obtaining such a device. Besides, the "free" services you seem to be talking about here (which I had personally recommended here as a good backup for those with an unlocked adapter in place or a Sipura box at their location) were short trials anyway. Both Stanaphone and CallPacket have become unusable, even as backups, because they now started charging for incoming calls. Even if they were still around in their former glory, they require hardware purchases to make them work, SR DOES NOT, it is an all-inclusive service with even the phones themselves provided.

Folks, the reason a singular VOIP provider is not provided as a means for expenditure comparison is clear. It would show that BK has erred, and we just can't have that. Most here know the providers that are out there, including the so-called "free" ones, and are well aware that they all have for the purposes of trying them out some sort of "tie your hands" expenditure attached to them.

BK, once more, so we can get past this disagreement please provide a single VOIP provider that, for the unitiated VOIP newbie, requires not a single dime's worth of investment in a trial, makes it as easy as SR to see if "the shoe fits." A provider that, free of charge, provides everything (forget the phones for now, everybody probably has at least an old corded phone lying around somewhere) needed to give this an honest try without tying up even a Dollar or dime of your money. In absence of that it is obvious that your challenge of my statement was factually wrong and highly misleading.

Folks, in his limited appearance on this board BK attacked posters to be SR company shills or having unsavory motives (referrals, anyone?) without proof and lacking even basic logic. He does not provide a single provider to back up his current challenge, instead hides behind an effusive "don't want to derail this thread" as if this thread in its 92-page existence has never discussed competetive products or matters besides whether SR is a "Hot Deal" or "so-so deal" (aside from the phones, of course.) The shrillness of the posts makes one wonder what the motivation behind them is. It also goes to the credibility of the bashers, since they can't make factual or logical arguments, and when asked to back up a challenge shrink from the task. If I didn't already have an SR account I would do so as a free trial and to at the least get the free phones before that promotion runs it's course (in case it doesn't "feel right" for me I would at least gain nice phones in the bargain) just because the argumentation offered by these folks holds very little water, IMO.



A little tidbit to those who know dslreports and discourse over there: RockyBB, the one basher (at least he did it with humor) who was most active in the past against Sunrocket while propping up the company he works for (Nuvio) got an SR account for his wife about 5 weeks ago. I have been in PM contact with him to ask about his experiences, as he was the most vocal critic against Sunrocket on that site. He has now made a 180 degree turn and confesses that SR is an excellent service, better sounding than anything else he has (includes Nuvio and Vonage and a couple other services.) He has been basically quieted by personal SR results, a convert. When he writes a review of the service it will definitely go in the "Smooth Ride" category as of now, I would assume, at least barring any huge outages in the future. That is based on so-far 5 weeks of trying out the service, a pretty good testing period to assess a service's sound quality and overall reliability.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: georgepa
Robor-

Insist that you are a tech and tried everything and that you could not be without your phone. Make it appear like you are dead in the water (in other words, claim that it does not come on at all, even upon reboot.) Tell the CS rep that others you talked to have not had to wait for a call-back from a Level 3 tech and that you would not accept anything but an immediate setup to ship out a new gizmo. The CS rep wanted to set me up for a call-back from Level 3 but after insisting the guy checked with a supervisor, then came back and changed it to immediate. He made me plug it in in his presence to verify that it was shot, then sent out a gizmo right away.

I got an Email from SR customer support stating that the issue was solved. No explanation or anything. Just a single sentence. Well, I got home from work and had people calling me on my cell saying my home number was ringing fast busy again. This morning the voice light is out on my Gizmo. I'm 100% down and I'm not even going to bother to call tech support again. My next call to SunRocket is for a refund.

I appreciate all the help from the members here but I do not have the patience to screw around with SunRocket anymore. The simple fact is they do not deserve my business. I know other VOIP customers and *none* of them have anywhere near the issues I'm having or have seen reported here with SunRocket.
 

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Hallelujah brother! Come to the truth; make your gizmo a vase holder like mine! Two bumps on top are perfect to hold your vase in a perfect vertical angle.

Astrofan also posted an international call deal, be aware of my previous posts about international call problems (especially to cell #, I have also recorded and posted the recordings online with the links)

George .. isn't a day not going by here without some bad news about SR sufficient? Yet we are still hearing the same old story you either attack peoples credibility (bostoncarl, myself and many others with your lame @ss 6 months old userid ) or claim it only happens to them and it is all pinky and beautiful.


Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: georgepa
Robor-

Insist that you are a tech and tried everything and that you could not be without your phone. Make it appear like you are dead in the water (in other words, claim that it does not come on at all, even upon reboot.) Tell the CS rep that others you talked to have not had to wait for a call-back from a Level 3 tech and that you would not accept anything but an immediate setup to ship out a new gizmo. The CS rep wanted to set me up for a call-back from Level 3 but after insisting the guy checked with a supervisor, then came back and changed it to immediate. He made me plug it in in his presence to verify that it was shot, then sent out a gizmo right away.

I got an Email from SR customer support stating that the issue was solved. No explanation or anything. Just a single sentence. Well, I got home from work and had people calling me on my cell saying my home number was ringing fast busy again. This morning the voice light is out on my Gizmo. I'm 100% down and I'm not even going to bother to call tech support again. My next call to SunRocket is for a refund.

I appreciate all the help from the members here but I do not have the patience to screw around with SunRocket anymore. The simple fact is they do not deserve my business. I know other VOIP customers and *none* of them have anywhere near the issues I'm having or have seen reported here with SunRocket.

 

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Sunrocket horror story:

Ordered 3 weeks ago. Got no email confirmation on shipping, though they had my account set up in a day or so.

A week later, still no email. I call them, get put on hold, eventually am told that my equipment was backordered. Of course, they should have emailed to tell me that, but they didn't. He swears it'll be shipped out Monday, since it's in their warehouse now.

No email confirmation Monday. I wait till the end of the week. Nothing.

The next week, my referral, who signed up a week after I did, gets her email confirmation. Since we live in the same area and both hers and mine are being shipped to the exact same address, I'm confused. I call them again. This time I'm told they don't know, very sorry, they'll get back to me...they transfer me, and I'm cut off.

I call again a day later, and am cut off again.

I receive my email confirmation (this is the third week) after my friend receives her package.

I receive my package a day later...they sent me the email confirmation two days after shipping my package out.

I try setting up my service. No go. Sunrocket sales swore I could connect this thing downstream of my computer, using my computer as a wireless bridge...nope. Nothing.

Talk to my landlord, get in to his basement, get at the router / cable modem. Still nothing.

Call sunrocket support. I say "support" with sarcasm, if you must know. Am on the phone for four hours. The moron on the other end knows nothing about networking, IP addresses, or his gizmo. Tells me to connect it upstream of the router. I do this. Tells me I need to connect the router as well...I ask him why, wouldn't it be easier to just connect the Gizmo, cable modem, and phone and troubleshoot my interior networking problems later, and he says no, the device has to see and "configure" my router (what?).

I go along with this. No, I wasn't drunk, just masochistic. Nothing works. Can't get the voice light to come on. He says ok, we're going to have to open ports on your router. I say really, why, my router's connected downstream of the gizmo, remember? He says yeah, but we have to.

I suggest at this point if there's a problem with my router and the gizmo both trying to assign IP addresses to the network. He says sure, there is, turn off DHCP on the router. I say wait, are you sure the gizmo's assigning IPs? He says definitely.

I turn of DHCP. Computer loses connection to the world. He says ok, no problem, turn DHCP back on on the router. I say how, since my computer won't connect to the router without an IP address. He says yeah, so turn DHCP back on on the router.

We go through this a million times.

Eventually my patience snaps and I yell at him. Was this a tech support person or just some neanderthal that wandered in from the jungles and decided to answer the phones that day? Not sure. Anyway, so he says he'll talk to tech support and they'll call me.

I say no, because i don't have a phone, and was borrowing a friend's. I also say that if he thinks i'm going to sit here with no internet connection till his boys call me back, he's mistaken...he just left my network in pieces, can't offer a solution, and now he wants to bail.

The solution, of course, was simple. I eventually took pity on him and explained: you set up a fixed ip address on your machine, access the router switch to dhcp, go back and tell your tcpip connection to get an ip address from the dhcp server again, and then repair the connection in XP.

So now he's confused, and knows he's screwed up. Unfortunately SR has no system for escalating calls other than to send it to tech support. This was a call center in the Philipines...if you're lucky enough to get one here, you might have better luck.

Anyway, so he hangs up on me, on the pretense of transferring me directly to tech support, so they won't have to call me back. I call back again, and get a new breed of idiot, who makes me jump through the same hoops. I refuse halfway, and demand to speak to a supervisor. She says no. Reminding her that I work in internet marketing, have several blogs, and will share my experiences with the BBB, FCC, my organization (a network of community technology centers and advocates) and God, she changes her mind.

Supervisor arrives, we go through the same process. He's marginally more intelligent, and has received my angry emails on this matter. He apologises. Swears he'll call me back in 15 minutes at the number I give him, which he also says he has on his caller ID.

It's now 2 days later. I haven't heard from SR via phone. The first and second techs both said they would email me if they couldn't get me on the phone, and i haven't gotten an email from them, either.

To be fair, I plugged my friend's into her router, tried it, and it was working perfectly in a couple of minutes, with no problems.

My recommendation: If you aren't seriously involved with networking, stay AWAY from SR. It's totally hit or miss if it'll work for you or not, and if it doesn't, Dante would be proud of the ensuing purgatory.

On the other hand, you'll be cleansed of any sins you (or your family, ancestors, friends, neighbors, race, etc) may have committed. And there are girls who like those holes from tearing your hair out, too.

Incidentally, they sent me two Gizmos. I've tried both, and the same problem...can't get the voice light to come on with either one.

Ideas?

-Dave.

 

georgepa

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Do your thing, it matters not to me. These sites are for all opinions and "experience" stories, even though you rather not have it that way. It works for many, in fact most. You want to have it that it works for only a select few. That is misrepresentation of the true facts, despite constant rants to the contrary. Some just are chronic complainers, even if they don't even have the service or never had it in the first place. To each his own, I suppose. :frown:
 

ttown

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Originally posted by: dchakrab
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Yes. Remove your gizmo and get everything working back the way things were.
Then, attach the gizmo onto your router or modem.

It should be:
coble-in-->(wan)modem(lan)-->[(wan)router(lan)]-->(wan)gizmo(lan)--->pc

Attach a phone to the gizmo line#1. Assuming no dial-tone, pick up the phone and dial ##333258. The mgmt light should blink a few times on the gizmo, and within a minute or two you should get a voice light.

If there's still no voice light, attach a PC to the gizmo and try getting normal web-access on your PC. If you can get on the web, but don't get a voice light -- then it is probably an issue with your router/firewall.

Try the above. If you still have problems, post as much info (or PM me) and we'll help as much as we can.

PS- Sounds like you had quite a run with some entry level tier 1 techs.... :(