Vizio Smart TVs Track Viewers

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BUTCH1

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The problem is every decent tv for years is smart. The TVs that aren't smart are 60hz LED edge lit garbage.

I own a "47 Philips LCD, bought it in '08, 60 Hz, non-LED lighting. To me it looks just fine, I have yet to notice "motion blur" or any other artifacts that might be there on an older set. If I upgrade it would be for a bigger size or possibly one of those curved Samsung's, saw one at BB and damm, it was stunning. Would hate to sell the "47 since I paid $1,400 for it, now it's worth $250-300 :(
 

lxskllr

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Privacy advocates are warning federal authorities of a new threat that uses inaudible, high-frequency sounds to surreptitiously track a person's online behavior across a range of devices, including phones, TVs, tablets, and computers.

The ultrasonic pitches are embedded into TV commercials or are played when a user encounters an ad displayed in a computer browser. While the sound can't be heard by the human ear, nearby tablets and smartphones can detect it. When they do, browser cookies can now pair a single user to multiple devices and keep track of what TV commercials the person sees, how long the person watches the ads, and whether the person acts on the ads by doing a Web search or buying a product.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...le-sound-to-link-your-phone-tv-tablet-and-pc/
 

waggy

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I figured every smart TV did this.

I got my kids a couple 32 inch tv's for x-mas. I didn't get htem smart ones just for this.
 

MtnMan

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Does anyone actually use the tuner in TV's anymore? 90% of what is displayed on my smart TV, comes from a single HDMI input, the output of my amp, which routes the image from one of a number of sources.
 

SunnyD

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Does anyone actually use the tuner in TV's anymore? 90% of what is displayed on my smart TV, comes from a single HDMI input, the output of my amp, which routes the image from one of a number of sources.

Your point? The TV still scrapes the source image fingerprint and sends it off so you can be tracked regardless of what you watch and where it comes from.
 

MtnMan

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Why worry about your TV when Windows 10 is tracking everything.
 

PottedMeat

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Does anyone actually use the tuner in TV's anymore? 90% of what is displayed on my smart TV, comes from a single HDMI input, the output of my amp, which routes the image from one of a number of sources.

i do. it's the only tuner in the house that will get all the OTA stations (50+)
 

BUTCH1

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apples to oranges, that info isnt disseminated and sold under normal driving conditions.

Fair enough, but most car makers don't want you to know about it and it can be downloaded under a subpoena from a judge.
 

TheGardener

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On the plus side, when you are with your gf, Vizio can have a timely popup asking if you need condoms. Another popup will announce that an Amazon drone can deliver Trojans within 1 hour. And your gf will be happy, because it means an hour of foreplay.
 

Red Squirrel

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This stuff is getting ridiculous. I just want products that I own and control 100% and that don't do stuff behind my back. Why is that so hard to ask for? Samsung TVs do this too. Come to think of it I should check mine, though I THINK I should be ok, it's an older generation one, though it is a "smart" TV. It has a browser and stuff.
 

Cerb

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I don't care so much about the data collection as I do the random ads that pop up from time to time, based on some ad that I am not watching, and the system (Samsung) refused to save my settings when I turn it off. This pisses me the hell off.

The fact that they force advertising as part of their "SMART feature" which, let's be honest, isn't a damn feature when countless devices do this anyway, makes me unhappy. There is no option in setup to not agree to tracking. You can't even set up the TV without Smart Hub if I recall correctly. So, either agree to all of their terms to use the basic function of the TV, or stare at a setup screen forever.
Or, return it ASAP...
 

Jeff7

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“Non-personal identifiable information may be shared with select partners… to permit these companies to make, for example, better-informed decisions regarding content production, programming and advertising,” Vizio said in a statement
So that means I get the TV for free, right? Since I as the user would be a generator of residual income for them...

Sure.



Leela: "Didn't you have ads in the 20th century?"
Fry: "Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree."


One place that surprises me: At restaurants, there is often a little piece of paper wrapped around the napkin and silverware. It's almost always, at least from what I've seen, just a blank piece of adhesive-backed paper, with no advertising printed on it.
Napkins: Usually no ads there either.

Oh well, I'm sure we'll get there. Any blank space that's not covered in advertising is just being wasted.


Many, though not all, advertisers have all the charming dignity of singing birds, which is little more than loudly screaming, "Hey! Anyone out there wanna fuck! Someone want to come get some of this? You know you want it! Do me already! Hey!"
Or a toddler incessantly pestering for attention by repeating "Look! Look! Look!"
Profitably professional attention whoring.
 
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Aikouka

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most people have cable boxes hooked up via hdmi to their smart tvs anyways. the tv will have no clue what channel you are tuned into, all they know is that a signal is coming in.

Actually, the TV is sending snippets of the screen. It isn't easily identifiable stuff, but there's an Ars article that shows how the information was retrieved via a Man-in-the-Middle attack.
 

Dude111

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13Gigatons said:
Vizio Smart TVs Track Viewers
I wouldnt be surprised IF THEY ALL DO!!!!!!

We have one in the living room and I often CLOSE THE DOORS ON THE CABINET ITS IN so it cant look @ me..... (If no one else is in there when I go in there (I do not trust them at all))