Vista Sucks

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Nik
There's no reason for me to upgrade from XP to Vista. None.

DX10? Proper 64bit support? Dreamscape? Search 4.0? A better UI (start menu find is amazing)? Improved audio environment?

Ok that's all I've got off the top of my head. Uninstall program menu in control panel is way better too but that's kind of an odd "pro".

Don't forget windows key + tab is a heck of a lot cooler than Alt + Tab

I moved to vista from XP and I don't regret it. Works great.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Hurry up Windows 7!

But then it starts all over again with the Win7 hating. It happens EVERY STINKING TIME MS releases a new OS.

 

[oddyager]

Ran Vista for over a year and a half now (used different versions at work and at home). Never had a problem with it.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
it still bogs down on me today on my OCed quad core system, even with SP1 and those few things (indexing, UAC, etc) turned off. i always find myself reverting back to xp pro sp3.

Then you're doing it wrong.

Stop and think: almost all of us are using Vista with no hangups. It's you buddy.

Vista adoption is horrible. Sorry.

Yup, I'm not using it and neither are businesses.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: George P Burdell

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
it still bogs down on me today on my OCed quad core system, even with SP1 and those few things (indexing, UAC, etc) turned off. i always find myself reverting back to xp pro sp3.

:roll:

Vista x64 is the best Windows I've used yet.

You must have missed win2k then.

 

[rh71]

I put a new Vista64 machine together a couple months ago without ever seeing pre-SP1... it's pretty good. The only two problems were compatibility with older hardware... creative soundblaster live mp3+ and hauppauge pvr-150. The wintv software also bugged out because of UAC. Other than that, it is a perfectly fine, worthwhile upgrade.

 

[scruffypup]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
it still bogs down on me today on my OCed quad core system, even with SP1 and those few things (indexing, UAC, etc) turned off. i always find myself reverting back to xp pro sp3.

Then you're doing it wrong.

Stop and think: almost all of us are using Vista with no hangups. It's you buddy.

Vista adoption is horrible. Sorry.

Yup, I'm not using it and neither are businesses.

That means nothing as far as whethe Vista is a worthwhile system. Most businesses will not adobt Vista and skip a generation entirely due to cost restraints,.. (most of them skipped ME or 2k from 98 and NT4), this is VERY typical of businesses. If you are not using it means nothing to everyone else.

Vista has a more secure platform to work off of than xp or previous NT versions by default. But like one other poster stated, there will always be haters of the newest MS platform.

 

[pontifex]

huh, i like vista just fine. in fact, everything on my system runs/loads faster than it did on XP.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: scruffypup

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
it still bogs down on me today on my OCed quad core system, even with SP1 and those few things (indexing, UAC, etc) turned off. i always find myself reverting back to xp pro sp3.

Then you're doing it wrong.

Stop and think: almost all of us are using Vista with no hangups. It's you buddy.

Vista adoption is horrible. Sorry.

Yup, I'm not using it and neither are businesses.

That means nothing as far as whethe Vista is a worthwhile system. Most businesses will not adobt Vista and skip a generation entirely due to cost restraints,.. (most of them skipped ME or 2k from 98 and NT4), this is VERY typical of businesses. If you are not using it means nothing to everyone else.

Vista has a more secure platform to work off of than xp or previous NT versions by default. But like one other poster stated, there will always be haters of the newest MS platform.

exactly. even if Vista had been touted from the beginning as the best OS in the world by everyone, businesses would not move to it right away.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
it still bogs down on me today on my OCed quad core system, even with SP1 and those few things (indexing, UAC, etc) turned off. i always find myself reverting back to xp pro sp3.

Then you're doing it wrong.

Stop and think: almost all of us are using Vista with no hangups. It's you buddy.

i agree

most if not all vista haters can be sumed up wit PEBKAC

 

[BoomerD]

I never did try Win2k...stuck with 98 till I finally upgraded to XP pro with a new build. This past year, I participated in the windows feedback panel and got 2 copies of Vista Ulimate as my "free gift." I installed it this summer on my PC which is mostly old hardware. (P4-3.06-socket 478 ASUS board, PC3200 RAM, X850XT-PE videocard, etc.) The ONLY issues I had with Vista was my SoundBlaster Live! sound card. Wouldn't work no matter what I tried. Finally just uninstalled it and use the on-board sound from the mobo. Oh...Nero 6 software isn't compatible either...Other than that, yes, the UAC is a PITA, but only a minor one, but I LIKE Vista. Looks good, works fine for me, loads even quicker than XP Pro did, stable, and in general, was a good choice. I don't think I'd have spent the $$$ to buy this OS since XP Pro worked fine for my application, but since it was free...now if I could only figure out what to do with these 64 bit disks...

 

[JDub02]

no problems with Vista here once I went up to 2GB RAM. 1 gig just wasn't enough. I'm starting to really prefer it over XP.

 

[AMCRambler]

Vista is trash. Bought my GF a new laptop with Vista pre-installed. Dual core AMD running at 2ghz with 512mb of ram. Started it up and right out of the box it takes about 6 minutes to start up. Wtf. Ok, go in uninstall useless compaq crap programs for remote control, tech support, etc. Should speed right up. Nope. 6 minutes to boot, lags when you try and do anything in windows. Alright, it's probably all that fancy gui crap they added in that's too much for the stock accelerator card to handle. Go in, turn off all the jazz, set the theme to good old windows classic, no fade in/fade out on the menus, turn off the desktop plugin utilities, set power management settings for high performance, should be quick now. Boot up time shortened to 5 minutes and although response is better, it's still a dog. I've got a p700 Thinkpad T21 that's running XP with better response than this machine.
Maybe I have to start turning off some other things but come on. This is ridiculous. Out of the box a brand new computer should be quick. Vista is supposed to make it even quicker for loading programs with it's fancy ass memory usage. I shouldn't have to tweak the thing to hell and back just to get it to perform at a satisfactory level. The whole thing just pissed me off. So I'm never buying a pc with Vista on it. At least not until I hear some good things about it after they patch it all to hell to fix this stuff.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Vista is trash. Bought my GF a new laptop with Vista pre-installed. Dual core AMD running at 2ghz with 512mb of ram. Started it up and right out of the box it takes about 6 minutes to start up. Wtf. Ok, go in uninstall useless compaq crap programs for remote control, tech support, etc. Should speed right up. Nope. 6 minutes to boot, lags when you try and do anything in windows. Alright, it's probably all that fancy gui crap they added in that's too much for the stock accelerator card to handle. Go in, turn off all the jazz, set the theme to good old windows classic, no fade in/fade out on the menus, turn off the desktop plugin utilities, set power management settings for high performance, should be quick now. Boot up time shortened to 5 minutes and although response is better, it's still a dog. I've got a p700 Thinkpad T21 that's running XP with better response than this machine.
Maybe I have to start turning off some other things but come on. This is ridiculous. Out of the box a brand new computer should be quick. Vista is supposed to make it even quicker for loading programs with it's fancy ass memory usage. I shouldn't have to tweak the thing to hell and back just to get it to perform at a satisfactory level. The whole thing just pissed me off. So I'm never buying a pc with Vista on it. At least not until I hear some good things about it after they patch it all to hell to fix this stuff.

Try installing more RAM. Anyone who thinks they can use Vista with less than 1GB of RAM is crazy and honestly to really get the speed out of Vista you need 2GB. And honestly RAM is pretty freaking cheap.

Seriously, go get some cheap laptop RAM, add it to your laptop I bet my next paycheck it will be faster.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Vista is trash. Bought my GF a new laptop with Vista pre-installed. Dual core AMD running at 2ghz with 512mb of ram. Started it up and right out of the box it takes about 6 minutes to start up. Wtf. Ok, go in uninstall useless compaq crap programs for remote control, tech support, etc. Should speed right up. Nope. 6 minutes to boot, lags when you try and do anything in windows. Alright, it's probably all that fancy gui crap they added in that's too much for the stock accelerator card to handle. Go in, turn off all the jazz, set the theme to good old windows classic, no fade in/fade out on the menus, turn off the desktop plugin utilities, set power management settings for high performance, should be quick now. Boot up time shortened to 5 minutes and although response is better, it's still a dog. I've got a p700 Thinkpad T21 that's running XP with better response than this machine.
Maybe I have to start turning off some other things but come on. This is ridiculous. Out of the box a brand new computer should be quick. Vista is supposed to make it even quicker for loading programs with it's fancy ass memory usage. I shouldn't have to tweak the thing to hell and back just to get it to perform at a satisfactory level. The whole thing just pissed me off. So I'm never buying a pc with Vista on it. At least not until I hear some good things about it after they patch it all to hell to fix this stuff.

Try installing more RAM. Anyone who thinks they can use Vista with less than 1GB of RAM is crazy and honestly to really get the speed out of Vista you need 2GB. And honestly RAM is pretty freaking cheap.

Seriously, go get some cheap laptop RAM, add it to your laptop I bet my next paycheck it will be faster.

yeah, i thought ATOTers were smarter than this? 512 mb ram these days is nothing, especially with Vista.

 

[KeithTalent]

Is this a year-old thread that someone raised from the dead? I don't get it.

Been on Vista since RC2 with only one minor problem in the beginning and none since then.

KT

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Is this a year-old thread that someone raised from the dead? I don't get it.

Been on Vista since RC2 with only one minor problem in the beginning and none since then.

KT

OP shows 10/8/2008 for me.

 

[waggy]

Vista really did suck when it first came out (so did XP). but the last pack really helped it. The co-leader of my daughters Girl scout troop just got a computer and it has Vista. i helped her install a bunch of software and i really liked it. i ran diffrent things on it for about 2 hours and didnt have a problem. Another friend of mine loves it. says the last SP pack has really done a lot for it.

IF i upgrade and have to reinstall i might think about getting Vista (if i can find a cheap copy of it) right now XP is great and i have no reason to upgrade.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
it still bogs down on me today on my OCed quad core system, even with SP1 and those few things (indexing, UAC, etc) turned off. i always find myself reverting back to xp pro sp3.

then you're doing something wrong

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Vista is trash. Bought my GF a new laptop with Vista pre-installed. Dual core AMD running at 2ghz with 512mb of ram. Started it up and right out of the box it takes about 6 minutes to start up. Wtf. Ok, go in uninstall useless compaq crap programs for remote control, tech support, etc. Should speed right up. Nope. 6 minutes to boot, lags when you try and do anything in windows. Alright, it's probably all that fancy gui crap they added in that's too much for the stock accelerator card to handle. Go in, turn off all the jazz, set the theme to good old windows classic, no fade in/fade out on the menus, turn off the desktop plugin utilities, set power management settings for high performance, should be quick now. Boot up time shortened to 5 minutes and although response is better, it's still a dog. I've got a p700 Thinkpad T21 that's running XP with better response than this machine.
Maybe I have to start turning off some other things but come on. This is ridiculous. Out of the box a brand new computer should be quick. Vista is supposed to make it even quicker for loading programs with it's fancy ass memory usage. I shouldn't have to tweak the thing to hell and back just to get it to perform at a satisfactory level. The whole thing just pissed me off. So I'm never buying a pc with Vista on it. At least not until I hear some good things about it after they patch it all to hell to fix this stuff.

Try installing more RAM. Anyone who thinks they can use Vista with less than 1GB of RAM is crazy and honestly to really get the speed out of Vista you need 2GB. And honestly RAM is pretty freaking cheap.

Seriously, go get some cheap laptop RAM, add it to your laptop I bet my next paycheck it will be faster.

I recently upgraded my girlfriend's comp from 1GB to 4GB of RAM. With 1GB Vista was slow as molasses, and I just knew it would be much snappier with 4GB. You can imagine my surprise when it didn't make much of a difference. Bootup still takes ~ 4 minutes (was 6), and shutdown still takes anywhere from 3 to 10 minutes (most are closer to 10). I've spent hours troubleshooting Vista and just can't figure out what the problem is. Networking with XP, Ubuntu, and Mandriva has also been a pain since day one.

So I'm anxiously awaiting SP2 (XP was a joke until SP2).

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: George P Burdell

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
it still bogs down on me today on my OCed quad core system, even with SP1 and those few things (indexing, UAC, etc) turned off. i always find myself reverting back to xp pro sp3.

Then you're doing it wrong.

Stop and think: almost all of us are using Vista with no hangups. It's you buddy.

its fast when i just do a clean install, once i load my apps on it (very few), it slows down.

same thing on my dads macbook pro, and my brothers imac 3.06Ghz...it just hates us i guess.

im anxiously awaiting for windows 7.

Desktop: Q9450 2.66Ghz @ 3.6Ghz | Asus P5Q Deluxe | GTX260 896MB | 2x2GB DDR2-1000 | Dell 2407WFP (A04) | XP Pro SP3

Which Vista did you try on that rig? Have you stress-tested your system after overclocking?

business SP1 and ultimate SP1, both x86. have x64 of ultimate and ill try that.

oh dont get me wrong, i dont hate vista. i just dont get how its slow on my decently fast computer(s).

ive also stress tested my rig too, at stock (2.66Ghz), 3.0Ghz, 3.2Ghz, 3.4Ghz, and 3.6Ghz...same thing each time.

edit: i do agree with googer though - xp just works for everything. low memory usage (ive got mine down to using less than 175MB at cold boot!) and the full 3.25GB for apps. vista i know is much better at memory management (although it uses way more memory at cold boot), but some programs just do not work in vista (messenger mate) which i definitely need and work in xp.

Now I just don't believe you

 

[AMCRambler]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Vista is trash. Bought my GF a new laptop with Vista pre-installed. Dual core AMD running at 2ghz with 512mb of ram. Started it up and right out of the box it takes about 6 minutes to start up. Wtf. Ok, go in uninstall useless compaq crap programs for remote control, tech support, etc. Should speed right up. Nope. 6 minutes to boot, lags when you try and do anything in windows. Alright, it's probably all that fancy gui crap they added in that's too much for the stock accelerator card to handle. Go in, turn off all the jazz, set the theme to good old windows classic, no fade in/fade out on the menus, turn off the desktop plugin utilities, set power management settings for high performance, should be quick now. Boot up time shortened to 5 minutes and although response is better, it's still a dog. I've got a p700 Thinkpad T21 that's running XP with better response than this machine.
Maybe I have to start turning off some other things but come on. This is ridiculous. Out of the box a brand new computer should be quick. Vista is supposed to make it even quicker for loading programs with it's fancy ass memory usage. I shouldn't have to tweak the thing to hell and back just to get it to perform at a satisfactory level. The whole thing just pissed me off. So I'm never buying a pc with Vista on it. At least not until I hear some good things about it after they patch it all to hell to fix this stuff.

Try installing more RAM. Anyone who thinks they can use Vista with less than 1GB of RAM is crazy and honestly to really get the speed out of Vista you need 2GB. And honestly RAM is pretty freaking cheap.

Seriously, go get some cheap laptop RAM, add it to your laptop I bet my next paycheck it will be faster.

yeah, i thought ATOTers were smarter than this? 512 mb ram these days is nothing, especially with Vista.

Yeah sure, 512mb is not alot and ram is cheap. But what kind of a bloated pig of an operating system needs a gig of ram to run a friggin web browser efficiently? I mean come on. What the hell is Vista loading into memory that is eating that up? What seems more likely to me is that it's just inefficient as all hell. Now that I've got all the jazz turned off what the hell is it doing that XP isn't that it needs more than 512mb of ram? Is it that indexing thing? If I shut that off will it be like XP?

I guess I should be more pissed at Compaq then MS because they sold a laptop with hardware that was inadequate to run the OS they loaded in its default configuration. I'll buy some ram and see what happens.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser


I recently upgraded my girlfriend's comp from 1GB to 4GB of RAM. With 1GB Vista was slow as molasses, and I just knew it would be much snappier with 4GB. You can imagine my surprise when it didn't make much of a difference. Bootup still takes ~ 4 minutes (was 6), and shutdown still takes anywhere from 3 to 10 minutes (most are closer to 10). I've spent hours troubleshooting Vista and just can't figure out what the problem is. Networking with XP, Ubuntu, and Mandriva has also been a pain since day one.

So I'm anxiously awaiting SP2 (XP was a joke until SP2).

there has to be something else wrong then. how else do you explain the people who have it and it works fine?

 

[rebecca1286]

Vista is the worst!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am getting lot of errors like

Com Surrogate Not Working
Not able to view the desktop once i log in

I really hate vista and went back to Windows XP....

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Vista is trash. Bought my GF a new laptop with Vista pre-installed. Dual core AMD running at 2ghz with 512mb of ram. Started it up and right out of the box it takes about 6 minutes to start up. Wtf. Ok, go in uninstall useless compaq crap programs for remote control, tech support, etc. Should speed right up. Nope. 6 minutes to boot, lags when you try and do anything in windows. Alright, it's probably all that fancy gui crap they added in that's too much for the stock accelerator card to handle. Go in, turn off all the jazz, set the theme to good old windows classic, no fade in/fade out on the menus, turn off the desktop plugin utilities, set power management settings for high performance, should be quick now. Boot up time shortened to 5 minutes and although response is better, it's still a dog. I've got a p700 Thinkpad T21 that's running XP with better response than this machine.
Maybe I have to start turning off some other things but come on. This is ridiculous. Out of the box a brand new computer should be quick. Vista is supposed to make it even quicker for loading programs with it's fancy ass memory usage. I shouldn't have to tweak the thing to hell and back just to get it to perform at a satisfactory level. The whole thing just pissed me off. So I'm never buying a pc with Vista on it. At least not until I hear some good things about it after they patch it all to hell to fix this stuff.

Try installing more RAM. Anyone who thinks they can use Vista with less than 1GB of RAM is crazy and honestly to really get the speed out of Vista you need 2GB. And honestly RAM is pretty freaking cheap.

Seriously, go get some cheap laptop RAM, add it to your laptop I bet my next paycheck it will be faster.

I recently upgraded my girlfriend's comp from 1GB to 4GB of RAM. With 1GB Vista was slow as molasses, and I just knew it would be much snappier with 4GB. You can imagine my surprise when it didn't make much of a difference. Bootup still takes ~ 4 minutes (was 6), and shutdown still takes anywhere from 3 to 10 minutes (most are closer to 10). I've spent hours troubleshooting Vista and just can't figure out what the problem is. Networking with XP, Ubuntu, and Mandriva has also been a pain since day one.

So I'm anxiously awaiting SP2 (XP was a joke until SP2).

then something is wrong with the computer. i have seen computers with 2 gb boot up and shut down far faster.