Vista is a POS

[Whoozyerdaddy]

The OP may be careless but Vista is still a POS. I reloaded XP last weekend. SO much better.

 

[spaceman]

Originally posted by: Bulk Beef
Hating on Vista is sooooo 2007.

i agree.
ignoring it altogether is 2009

 

[Sasiki]

Probably already been said, but XP doesn't confirm that you want to hibernate either. Does that mean it's a POS?

 

[Crono]

I agree with OP that it's annoying... the first time you use Vista. Once you get used to Vista, it's not that bad. I still prefer XP's handling of shutdown to Vista. I don't use the hybrid options in Vista, though, I use hibernate, shutdown, or restart only.

I wouldn't say Vista is a POS. I think I was a little disappointed with it when it first came out, since it didn't deliver all of the features I was expecting and I had device compatibility issues. After the service packs, though, I think it's OK, but not like mind blowingly better than XP. I still use XP for my main OS, and I see no compelling reason to completely switch over to Vista. Haven't tried Windows 7 yet, but there's a good chance I might use it when it comes out of Beta.

 

[Argo]

I have much better reasons why I think Vista is POS:

1) IE 8 on Vista is very unstable. On average it locks up once every 2 days. MS solution? Make it be able to restart back to the previous session state. Great, but still annoying.
2) Every once in a while visLta starts up with 100% cpu utilization after leaving stand by mode. Looking at task manager appears to be some ms network library which it's impossible to kill.
3) Task manager is generally very slow and unresponsive. When a program goes haywire (which happens reasonably often on vista) - it takes close to a minute to kill it.

None of those are problems on XP.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I hate how they hid shutdown/restart in Vista and replaced it with hibernate. I do that all the time. Normally the power symbol means that, shut down, but instead in vista it's hibernate. Does hibernate actually work in Vista? I've never seen that feature actually work in Windows. It usually just goes into a coma and never comes back.

And yes classic start menu FTW. It's like, the first thing I change when I install XP. Not sure if vista even lets you...

 

[frostedflakes]

Is S4 sleep enabled in your computer's BIOS? Chipset/mobo drivers installed? I don't think I've ever had a problem w/hibernate in Windows.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I've seen this on any PC, not just mine. This dates from way back in win98 days. I've never seen that feature work. I'm hoping they at least fixed it in Vista.

 

[frostedflakes]

Well you've got to be doing something wrong, because I've seen hibernation work perfectly fine on probably just as many PCs, lol. Don't know about ACPI support in Win 98 and older Microsoft OS, but there's no reason hibernate shouldn't work on any relatively modern system running Windows XP or Vista.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I hate how they hid shutdown/restart in Vista and replaced it with hibernate. I do that all the time. Normally the power symbol means that, shut down, but instead in vista it's hibernate. Does hibernate actually work in Vista? I've never seen that feature actually work in Windows. It usually just goes into a coma and never comes back.

And yes classic start menu FTW. It's like, the first thing I change when I install XP. Not sure if vista even lets you...

Hibernate backs up your current RAM state to a section of your hard drive and then turns the computer off. As in, to start it up again, you have to press the power button to turn it back on. It then restores your computer to the exact state it was in when you clicked hibernate.

This is different from standby mode, where the computer enters a low-power state that provides just enough power to the RAM and wakes up when you jiggle the mouse or press a key.

Hibernate works pretty well in fact. It's faster than starting up or shutting down because there's no need to exit and save everything and no need to start all your programs again.

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I hate how they hid shutdown/restart in Vista and replaced it with hibernate. I do that all the time. Normally the power symbol means that, shut down, but instead in vista it's hibernate. Does hibernate actually work in Vista? I've never seen that feature actually work in Windows. It usually just goes into a coma and never comes back.

And yes classic start menu FTW. It's like, the first thing I change when I install XP. Not sure if vista even lets you...

Hibernate backs up your current RAM state to a section of your hard drive and then turns the computer off. As in, to start it up again, you have to press the power button to turn it back on. It then restores your computer to the exact state it was in when you clicked hibernate.

This is different from standby mode, where the computer enters a low-power state that provides just enough power to the RAM and wakes up when you jiggle the mouse or press a key.

Hibernate works pretty well in fact. It's faster than starting up or shutting down because there's no need to exit and save everything and no need to start all your programs again.

I was hoping his problem w/hibernate wasn't something so simple.

 

[videogames101]

Guys, if you hate vista, try windows 7, it's Vista but fixed and much more refined.

 

[thescreensavers]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama
I wanted to shutdown my computer, but clicked hybernate instead. It didn't ask for confirmation and my laptop went into hybernation :|

1D10T Error, you should get that fixed.

 

[IGBT]

look forward to spring.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I hate how they hid shutdown/restart in Vista and replaced it with hibernate. I do that all the time. Normally the power symbol means that, shut down, but instead in vista it's hibernate. Does hibernate actually work in Vista? I've never seen that feature actually work in Windows. It usually just goes into a coma and never comes back.

And yes classic start menu FTW. It's like, the first thing I change when I install XP. Not sure if vista even lets you...

Hibernate backs up your current RAM state to a section of your hard drive and then turns the computer off. As in, to start it up again, you have to press the power button to turn it back on. It then restores your computer to the exact state it was in when you clicked hibernate.

This is different from standby mode, where the computer enters a low-power state that provides just enough power to the RAM and wakes up when you jiggle the mouse or press a key.

Hibernate works pretty well in fact. It's faster than starting up or shutting down because there's no need to exit and save everything and no need to start all your programs again.

Actually my bad, I was getting it confused with standby. I never tried hibernate tbh.

 

[Vampirrella]

i wuv my vista 64

 

[nobody554]

Originally posted by: thescreensavers

Originally posted by: Barack Obama
I wanted to shutdown my computer, but clicked hybernate instead. It didn't ask for confirmation and my laptop went into hybernation :|

1D10T Error, you should get that fixed.

The little box that you have to click to pull up shutdown/hibernate/etc. was your confirmation. This is purely PEBKAC and nothing else.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
You think that's bad? Sometimes I click to shutdown or restart, and the machine refuses to do anything whatsoever.

I think that usually happens when an application refuses to shutdown correctly. My sis' Vista laptop used to take four-five minutes to shutdown. Glanced through Task Manager - found PeerGuardian to be the culprit. Tried system shutdown after first manually exiting PeerGuardian - off within seconds.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama

Originally posted by: DrawninwarD
This is pure FAIL on your part, sorry.

Everyone just hates on Vista now because it's cool. Find a better reason. -_-;

Aww damn, I was 'ust tryin' to be cool

But honestly, I can't see how Vista is any improvement over Xp. Windows 7 on the other hand..

mass file copy and replace, dealing with inconsistencies.

boom, vista is better than XP in this regard.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Argo
I have much better reasons why I think Vista is POS:

1) IE 8 on Vista is very unstable. On average it locks up once every 2 days. MS solution? Make it be able to restart back to the previous session state. Great, but still annoying.
2) Every once in a while visLta starts up with 100% cpu utilization after leaving stand by mode. Looking at task manager appears to be some ms network library which it's impossible to kill.
3) Task manager is generally very slow and unresponsive. When a program goes haywire (which happens reasonably often on vista) - it takes close to a minute to kill it.

None of those are problems on XP.

I've never experienced any of that on Vista64. Seems like a hardware issue to me.

 

[zerocool84]

Here's a tip to all people:

Why are you trying to use old hardware to run new software??? Stick to your old stuff.