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nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
You just renamed a file 2 seconds ago and can't find it in an alphabetical list? Fail.

This is not the primary issue at hand. If I rename a file in a folder of thousands, and wish to access it, I now have to sift through many rows of files. Likewise, moving multiple files in to a new folder automatically sorts the files instead of appending them to the end. In doing so, the selection of the files is also lost, an equally troubling side effect.

Adding these extra layers of tediousness prevents a smooth and enjoyable experience.

Well, I have two potential options for you:
a) Use XP
2) Run a virtual machine on Vista that uses XP
iii. Fart
 

ManyBeers

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Aug 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
This one really hurts...When I rename, copy, or otherwise add/change a file name in a folder, the file(s) instantly get sorted alphabetically. XP doesn't move them until you refresh your view of the folder, which is quite helpful as it appends new files to the end of the folder and leaves them highlighted.

Is there any way to mimic this behavior in Vista? Vista doesn't even leave the files highlighted after it sorts them, which makes it extremely hard to find in a large folder of similarly named files (e.g., a newly copied photo as part of a sequence "Beach 471.jpg". If you don't remember "471", you won't be finding that picture anytime soon).

When i do this (rename) Vista moves it's view to where the new file has been moved to and the file remains highlighted.. In other words it follows the file.
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: Crusty
Sort by date/time.

Wrong forum btw.

http://forums.anandtech.com/ca...tid=34&flcache=5537877

Sorting by date / time doesn't work if I simply renamed a file.
It's still in the wrong fucking forum.

Please refrain from using such offensive fucking language you fucking fuck.

Ok

Your rudeness speaks to your character. Good day.

Your lack of humor and inability to locate the correct forum speaks to yours.

Oh, and don't tell me what kind of day to have, buddy.

She aint your fuck buddy, pal.
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: Crusty
Sort by date/time.

Wrong forum btw.

http://forums.anandtech.com/ca...tid=34&flcache=5537877

Sorting by date / time doesn't work if I simply renamed a file.
It's still in the wrong fucking forum.

Please refrain from using such offensive fucking language you fucking fuck.

Ok

Your rudeness speaks to your character. Good day.

Your lack of humor and inability to locate the correct forum speaks to yours.

Oh, and don't tell me what kind of day to have, buddy.

She aint your fuck buddy, pal.

She ain't you pal, friend!
 

SSUSeaWolf

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Mar 12, 2009
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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
This one really hurts...When I rename, copy, or otherwise add/change a file name in a folder, the file(s) instantly get sorted alphabetically. XP doesn't move them until you refresh your view of the folder, which is quite helpful as it appends new files to the end of the folder and leaves them highlighted.

Is there any way to mimic this behavior in Vista? Vista doesn't even leave the files highlighted after it sorts them, which makes it extremely hard to find in a large folder of similarly named files (e.g., a newly copied photo as part of a sequence "Beach 471.jpg". If you don't remember "471", you won't be finding that picture anytime soon).

When i do this Vista moves it's view to where the new file has been moved to. In other words it follows the file.

While this is true with renaming a single file, doing two in sequence will cause havoc. Likewise, if I want to rename 3 picture in a row, I have to go back the and find the remaining 2 after I rename 1.

I don't understand how this feature is remotely more efficient than the XP variant.
 

olds

Elite Member
Mar 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: Crusty
Sort by date/time.

Wrong forum btw.

http://forums.anandtech.com/ca...tid=34&flcache=5537877

Sorting by date / time doesn't work if I simply renamed a file.
It's still in the wrong fucking forum.

Please refrain from using such offensive fucking language you fucking fuck.

Ok

Your rudeness speaks to your character. Good day.

Your lack of humor and inability to locate the correct forum speaks to yours.

Oh, and don't tell me what kind of day to have, buddy.

She aint your fuck buddy, pal.

She ain't you pal, friend!
I ain't your friend, guy!

 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
57,406
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: Crusty
Sort by date/time.

Wrong forum btw.

http://forums.anandtech.com/ca...tid=34&flcache=5537877

Sorting by date / time doesn't work if I simply renamed a file.
It's still in the wrong fucking forum.

Please refrain from using such offensive fucking language you fucking fuck.

Ok

Your rudeness speaks to your character. Good day.

Your lack of humor and inability to locate the correct forum speaks to yours.

Oh, and don't tell me what kind of day to have, buddy.

She aint your fuck buddy, pal.

She ain't you pal, friend!
I ain't your friend, guy!

I ain't your guy, buddy!
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Barfo
There are many rude people in this forum, I recommend you refrain from talking to them.

Barfo is the rudest of them. I highly reccomend not talking to him at all costs.
 

SSUSeaWolf

Senior member
Mar 12, 2009
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
You just renamed a file 2 seconds ago and can't find it in an alphabetical list? Fail.

This is not the primary issue at hand. If I rename a file in a folder of thousands, and wish to access it, I now have to sift through many rows of files. Likewise, moving multiple files in to a new folder automatically sorts the files instead of appending them to the end. In doing so, the selection of the files is also lost, an equally troubling side effect.

Adding these extra layers of tediousness prevents a smooth and enjoyable experience.

Well, I have two potential options for you:
a) Use XP
2) Run a virtual machine on Vista that uses XP
iii. Fart

Using XP is not an option available to me on this computer.
Running a virtual machine is also not an option, and even if it was, it would be much too superfluous for the topic at hand.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
While this is true with renaming a single file, doing two in sequence will cause havoc. Likewise, if I want to rename 3 picture in a row, I have to go back the and find the remaining 2 after I rename 1.

I don't understand how this feature is remotely more efficient than the XP variant.

Have you considered the notion that Windows Explorer may not be designed for batch file renaming, and more people found this approach to their liking?
 

SSUSeaWolf

Senior member
Mar 12, 2009
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Barfo
There are many rude people in this forum, I recommend you refrain from talking to them.

Barfo is the rudest of them. I highly reccomend not talking to him at all costs.

I disagree, he seems to be gentlemanly and collected.
 

olds

Elite Member
Mar 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
You just renamed a file 2 seconds ago and can't find it in an alphabetical list? Fail.

This is not the primary issue at hand. If I rename a file in a folder of thousands, and wish to access it, I now have to sift through many rows of files. Likewise, moving multiple files in to a new folder automatically sorts the files instead of appending them to the end. In doing so, the selection of the files is also lost, an equally troubling side effect.

Adding these extra layers of tediousness prevents a smooth and enjoyable experience.

Well, I have two potential options for you:
a) Use XP
2) Run a virtual machine on Vista that uses XP
iii. Fart

Using XP is not an option available to me on this computer.
Running a virtual machine is also not an option, and even if it was, it would be much too superfluous for the topic at hand.
The topic at hand is now, bacon!

I love me some bacon, dude.

 

SSUSeaWolf

Senior member
Mar 12, 2009
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
While this is true with renaming a single file, doing two in sequence will cause havoc. Likewise, if I want to rename 3 picture in a row, I have to go back the and find the remaining 2 after I rename 1.

I don't understand how this feature is remotely more efficient than the XP variant.

Have you considered the notion that Windows Explorer may not be designed for batch file renaming, and more people found this approach to their liking?

I would hardly consider 3 files to be a batch. This still does not address the similar issue with copying one or more files in to a folder. Since they are automatically sorted, the selection is lost and hard to track down depending on the content of the folder.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Running a virtual machine is also not an option, and even if it was, it would be much too superfluous for the topic at hand.

I don't see how. Start virtual machine, then rename files via Explorer in virtual machine. Problem solved. This is likely the easiest, most practical solution.
You could also look into other products for batch renaming.
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
You just renamed a file 2 seconds ago and can't find it in an alphabetical list? Fail.

This is not the primary issue at hand. If I rename a file in a folder of thousands, and wish to access it, I now have to sift through many rows of files. Likewise, moving multiple files in to a new folder automatically sorts the files instead of appending them to the end. In doing so, the selection of the files is also lost, an equally troubling side effect.

Adding these extra layers of tediousness prevents a smooth and enjoyable experience.

Well, I have two potential options for you:
a) Use XP
2) Run a virtual machine on Vista that uses XP
iii. Fart

Using XP is not an option available to me on this computer.
Running a virtual machine is also not an option, and even if it was, it would be much too superfluous for the topic at hand.
The topic at hand is now, bacon!

I love me some bacon, dude.

Bacon bacon bacon bacon BACON!!! MMMMMMmmmmmmmmm..........
 

ManyBeers

Platinum Member
Aug 30, 2004
2,519
1
81
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
This one really hurts...When I rename, copy, or otherwise add/change a file name in a folder, the file(s) instantly get sorted alphabetically. XP doesn't move them until you refresh your view of the folder, which is quite helpful as it appends new files to the end of the folder and leaves them highlighted.

Is there any way to mimic this behavior in Vista? Vista doesn't even leave the files highlighted after it sorts them, which makes it extremely hard to find in a large folder of similarly named files (e.g., a newly copied photo as part of a sequence "Beach 471.jpg". If you don't remember "471", you won't be finding that picture anytime soon).

When i do this Vista moves it's view to where the new file has been moved to. In other words it follows the file.

While this is true with renaming a single file, doing two in sequence will cause havoc. Likewise, if I want to rename 3 picture in a row, I have to go back the and find the remaining 2 after I rename 1.

I don't understand how this feature is remotely more efficient than the XP variant.

Ok, I havn't tried more than one.
 

Barfo

Lifer
Jan 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Barfo
There are many rude people in this forum, I recommend you refrain from talking to them.

Barfo is the rudest of them. I highly reccomend not talking to him at all costs.

I disagree, he seems to be gentlemanly and collected.

Don't forget scholarly ;)

The issue seems to be that Vista refreshes the file list as soon as you drop something in the folder, maybe there's a registry value that can be changed so that it only refreshes when you hit F5.
 

SSUSeaWolf

Senior member
Mar 12, 2009
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: SSUSeaWolf
Running a virtual machine is also not an option, and even if it was, it would be much too superfluous for the topic at hand.

I don't see how. Start virtual machine, then rename files via Explorer in virtual machine. Problem solved. This is likely the easiest, most practical solution.
You could also look into other products for batch renaming.

Generally speaking I rename a file or two at a time, as do most computer users. Likewise I tend to copy a small selection of files at any one given time. The problem exists at all levels of file editing, whether it's 1 or 100.

Starting a virtual machine is much more time consuming than the act of doing the rename / copy, including the time it takes to hunt down the new files. I seriously doubt such an option would be remotely reasonable for daily computer use.