Virginia Tech student gets decapitated

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Farang

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Hey Guys,

I can't comment in my role as a Hall Staff Member here at VT. I can, however, as a student I can say that we were never on lock down.

It is aggravating to see these sort of things, but this is not unique to VT - these events can happen at any school. I think what would help everyone the best would be thoughts and/or prayers at this point - especially for the victim and suspect as well as the staff at the GLC (Graduate Life Center).

-Kevin

lolz.. I am imagining Martin Price walking around the halls with his yellow sash trying to act important
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Hey Guys,

I can't comment in my role as a Hall Staff Member here at VT. I can, however, as a student I can say that we were never on lock down.

It is aggravating to see these sort of things, but this is not unique to VT - these events can happen at any school. I think what would help everyone the best would be thoughts and/or prayers at this point - especially for the victim and suspect as well as the staff at the GLC (Graduate Life Center).

-Kevin

Um, no. I'm not giving any prayers for the suspect. And while these things "can" happen at any school they only seem to be happening at VT for some reason.

Why? He is even more screwed up now than ever.

There are 32 Hokie Stones at the VT Memorial on the drill field. 1 is there for Cho - 32 people lost their life that day not 31.

Murders happen at plenty of schools. I'm not going to pretend that VT hasn't taken the brunt of events recently, but I certainly don't want people to believe that VT is a bad or unsafe school in anyway - because it is quite the opposite. As my signature says - I am, without a doubt, proud to be a Hokie.

-Kevin

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lolz.. I am imagining Martin Price walking around the halls with his yellow sash trying to act important

Who is that?
 

cHeeZeFacTory

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what was the murder weapon? a butcher's knife? i have enough trouble cutting chicken neck bones with a regular chef's knife.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: cHeeZeFacTory
what was the murder weapon? a butcher's knife? i have enough trouble cutting chicken neck bones with a regular chef's knife.

A chicken's neck is solid bone. You ever look at a skeleton model in high school or something? Cut in between vertebrae and you can take a head right off. Not rocket science, especially with a butcher's knife.

That's fucked up. Every time I read a story like this I feel less safe on campus.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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Wow isn't this the second time in less then a year span that someone gets murdered there?

What I don't understand about situations like this, why don't everyone jump the guy or something.

Same with 9/11. Why didn't the people in the plane just jump the freaken terrorists? Americans are chicken. If I was about to die or saw someone being killed I'd do everything I can to try to stop it. There would maybe be a delay because such situation just makes you go in a state of shock, but then the adrenaline would rush making it so you HAVE to do something about it, like run directly towards the murderer at fastest speed possible while holding a chair. Better hope he does not have a gun mind you but worth a shot. (no pun intended)
 

SuPrEIVIE

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Its terrible some of the cold comments posted by some here, but even worse that nobody helped her, it looks like people are still consumed with fear over the other nutjob who went with guns blazing last time around. The nature of the kill pretty much makes it the equivalent of the massacre of the prior one on that campus.
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
jonks point is that if I know everyone is carrying and I want to rob someone, I can still do it, I'm just going to wait until you are alone and I'm going to be hidden until I hit you in the head with a bat. It just changes the tactics for a determined attacker.

True, but those "changed tactics" mean that it's a lot more difficult for a determined attacker and also that the risk to the casual attacker is increased significantly. While far from a panacea, concealed carry represents a proven effective method for a responsible person to bias the odds slightly more in his or her favor.

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: BoomerD
IMO, handguns are NOT appropriate on college campuses. While some students are possibly responsible enough to handle such a responsibility, from my experience, most are not.

What about only concealed carry by those who have obtained the permit for such? Or when you say handguns do you assume concealed?

Disclaimer: I don't know if all states require a permit for concealed.

All states other than Vermont and Alaska require permits for concealed carry. Alaska, while allowing residents to carry without a permit, requires that any non-residents have a valid permit.

ZV
 

irishScott

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Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: soydios
Originally posted by: irishScott
This is why we need concealed carry on campus. I've already narrowly avoided a couple of street fights (once was a guy checking out my car, another was just a bunch of random collective stares from what appeared to be an Hispanic gang). Crazy shit like this is the reason I take Krav Maga and carry a spring-assisted (read: effectively a legal switchblade) knife. Obviously the chances that I'll ever have to use either are low, but if it comes down to it and the other guy has a gun, the gun "not being allowed on campus" won't really matter.

immature adults + alcohol + guns = very bad, FYI.

That's why you make the application process as strict as practical, and make the penalties for carrying a firearm while under the influence include automatic jail-time.
 

sdifox

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The story wasn't very clear, did the guy just snap and pull out a kitchen knife and proceeded to decapitate the girl? And not one person went to her aid???
 

sdifox

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yeah, I am sure the rich Chinese parents are going to keep sending their kid to this school... She only lasted 2 weeks.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: soydios
Originally posted by: irishScott
This is why we need concealed carry on campus. I've already narrowly avoided a couple of street fights (once was a guy checking out my car, another was just a bunch of random collective stares from what appeared to be an Hispanic gang). Crazy shit like this is the reason I take Krav Maga and carry a spring-assisted (read: effectively a legal switchblade) knife. Obviously the chances that I'll ever have to use either are low, but if it comes down to it and the other guy has a gun, the gun "not being allowed on campus" won't really matter.

immature adults + alcohol + guns = very bad, FYI.

I would tend to agree - definitely don't want guns in frat houses and such. If you live off campus or commute, that's a different story.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Sedition
Does this sound way too ritualistic and planned to just be some nutball who snapped?

I mean where did he get the knife?
Why did it seem unprovoked?
How about the relation to the victim?

Cutting off someones head in public could be one fucking hell of a way to send someone a message.

I wonder if this was mafia related?

they were PhD students. From China.

far more likely to be an unsocialized geek than having any connection to Sicilian organized crime.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: soydios
Originally posted by: irishScott
This is why we need concealed carry on campus. I've already narrowly avoided a couple of street fights (once was a guy checking out my car, another was just a bunch of random collective stares from what appeared to be an Hispanic gang). Crazy shit like this is the reason I take Krav Maga and carry a spring-assisted (read: effectively a legal switchblade) knife. Obviously the chances that I'll ever have to use either are low, but if it comes down to it and the other guy has a gun, the gun "not being allowed on campus" won't really matter.

immature adults + alcohol + guns = very bad, FYI.

That's why you make the application process as strict as practical, and make the penalties for carrying a firearm while under the influence include automatic jail-time.

then even you and others would come out here saying that restricting anyone's right while others have that right violates their 2nd amendment, blah, blah, blah...
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: soydios
Originally posted by: irishScott
This is why we need concealed carry on campus. I've already narrowly avoided a couple of street fights (once was a guy checking out my car, another was just a bunch of random collective stares from what appeared to be an Hispanic gang). Crazy shit like this is the reason I take Krav Maga and carry a spring-assisted (read: effectively a legal switchblade) knife. Obviously the chances that I'll ever have to use either are low, but if it comes down to it and the other guy has a gun, the gun "not being allowed on campus" won't really matter.

immature adults + alcohol + guns = very bad, FYI.

That's why you make the application process as strict as practical, and make the penalties for carrying a firearm while under the influence include automatic jail-time.

then even you and others would come out here saying that restricting anyone's right while others have that right violates their 2nd amendment, blah, blah, blah...

Oh they'll have the right to the 2nd amendment. They just won't get concealed carry. It's all about compromise.
 

compuwiz1

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Now this makes me wonder if some Asian parents are putting such demands and pressure on some of these kids as to make them snap?
 

Leros

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Now this makes me wonder if some Asian parents are putting such demands and pressure on some of these kids as to make them snap?

I know several asian girls who cry because of the pressure their parents put on them. Their parents make them feel like failures for making all A's because their final averages were low 90s.
 

oddyager

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Originally posted by: Sedition
Does this sound way too ritualistic and planned to just be some nutball who snapped?

I mean where did he get the knife?
Why did it seem unprovoked?
How about the relation to the victim?

Cutting off someones head in public could be one fucking hell of a way to send someone a message.

I wonder if this was mafia related?

You mean triad? Mafia is Sicilian. And no, I don't believe this has anything to do with either. It's one deranged individual committing brutal murder.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Originally posted by: Pepsei
well, in china, he could be summarily executed

you mean similarly?

no, in US, it would take a long time.

what?? summarily means quickly then? or do you mean samurai would execute him?

summarily is synonym of summary
, meaning done without formality or delay

Epic exchange of fail. :(

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
It is sad that people retort to violent.

Repeated butchering of the English language makes me want to "retort to violent." :roll: