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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ICRS
Virgina can't give you 6 poins on your license. Only the state that issues your license has that authority.
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A lot of state's honor other state's punishments. Can't know for sure, only guessing.
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Most state have their own points system and if they do decide to punish you for a ticket out of state it will be based on their point system not where you got your ticket.

If you get an out of state ticket in California the max number points you can get is 1 point, which is what nearly all violations in California are.
 
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ICRS
Virgina can't give you 6 poins on your license. Only the state that issues your license has that authority.
Click to expand...

A lot of state's honor other state's punishments. Can't know for sure, only guessing.
Click to expand...

Most state have their own points system and if they do decide to punish you for a ticket out of state it will be based on their point system not where you got your ticket.

If you get an out of state ticket in California the max number points you can get is 1 point, which is what nearly all violations in California are.
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I actually just found the official word from Penndot :
Although reported to PennDOT, minor traffic offenses such as speeding, red light, stop sign, etc., will
(NOT) appear on your driving record, unless you are a CDL holder. Points will not be assessed to
your PA driving record when convicted of a point related offense in a DLC member state
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source for any other PA drivers: http://www.dot3.state.pa.us/pd...fact_sheets/fs-dlc.pdf
 
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ICRS
Virgina can't give you 6 poins on your license. Only the state that issues your license has that authority.
Click to expand...

A lot of state's honor other state's punishments. Can't know for sure, only guessing.
Click to expand...

Most state have their own points system and if they do decide to punish you for a ticket out of state it will be based on their point system not where you got your ticket.

If you get an out of state ticket in California the max number points you can get is 1 point, which is what nearly all violations in California are.
Click to expand...

I actually just found the official word from Penndot :
Although reported to PennDOT, minor traffic offenses such as speeding, red light, stop sign, etc., will
(NOT) appear on your driving record, unless you are a CDL holder. Points will not be assessed to
your PA driving record when convicted of a point related offense in a DLC member state
Click to expand...

source for any other PA drivers: http://www.dot3.state.pa.us/pd...fact_sheets/fs-dlc.pdf
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So that is good, looks like it probably won't show up in your driving record. Now you have to worry about the fine and such.
 
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ICRS
Virgina can't give you 6 poins on your license. Only the state that issues your license has that authority.
Click to expand...

A lot of state's honor other state's punishments. Can't know for sure, only guessing.
Click to expand...

Here in NJ, any out of state offense is 2 points (or it was when I got my license). Check with your state.
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I can say with certainty that NJ offenses do not carry over to PA. At least they didn't 5 years ago.
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I really have no idea what relevance that has to what I said or to this thread... but I went ahead and checked the PA driver's manual to see how they handle points on out-of-state tickets.

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/dri...al/pa_driversman.shtml

Chapter 4 just says that certain offenses committed in other Driver's License Compact states (including Virginia) will be treated as if they happened in PA, and reckless driving is not on the list. That's not to say that you won't receive points though. The Pennsylvania Point System Fact Sheet does not say how offenses from other states are dealt with, nor does it list reckless driving, but if you got a ticket for 18 over in PA it would be 4 points; careless driving (a lesser offense than reckless driving) is 3 points.

So what have we learned? You may receive somewhere between 0 and 6 points on your PA license. You're going to want to check with the DMV.
 
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ICRS
Virgina can't give you 6 poins on your license. Only the state that issues your license has that authority.
Click to expand...

A lot of state's honor other state's punishments. Can't know for sure, only guessing.
Click to expand...

Most state have their own points system and if they do decide to punish you for a ticket out of state it will be based on their point system not where you got your ticket.

If you get an out of state ticket in California the max number points you can get is 1 point, which is what nearly all violations in California are.
Click to expand...

I actually just found the official word from Penndot :
Although reported to PennDOT, minor traffic offenses such as speeding, red light, stop sign, etc., will
(NOT) appear on your driving record, unless you are a CDL holder. Points will not be assessed to
your PA driving record when convicted of a point related offense in a DLC member state
Click to expand...

source for any other PA drivers: http://www.dot3.state.pa.us/pd...fact_sheets/fs-dlc.pdf
Click to expand...

So that is good, looks like it probably won't show up in your driving record. Now you have to worry about the fine and such.
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Driving record - No
Criminal record - Yes

If the charge stands, I'll be convicted of a Class 1 Misdemeanor. That is the same as DUI/DWI or a Minor Drug/Paraphernalia conviction.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: ICRS
Virgina can't give you 6 poins on your license. Only the state that issues your license has that authority.
Click to expand...

A lot of state's honor other state's punishments. Can't know for sure, only guessing.
Click to expand...

Here in NJ, any out of state offense is 2 points (or it was when I got my license). Check with your state.
Click to expand...

I can say with certainty that NJ offenses do not carry over to PA. At least they didn't 5 years ago.
Click to expand...

I really have no idea what relevance that has to what I said or to this thread... but I went ahead and checked the PA driver's manual to see how they handle points on out-of-state tickets.

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/dri...al/pa_driversman.shtml

Chapter 4 just says that certain offenses committed in other Driver's License Compact states (including Virginia) will be treated as if they happened in PA, and reckless driving is not on the list. That's not to say that you won't receive points though. The Pennsylvania Point System Fact Sheet does not say how offenses from other states are dealt with, nor does it list reckless driving, but if you got a ticket for 18 over in PA it would be 4 points; careless driving (a lesser offense than reckless driving) is 3 points.

So what have we learned? You may receive somewhere between 0 and 6 points on your PA license. You're going to want to check with the DMV.
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I appreciate the info. I was actually able to get some information, but like you said it is a still a toss up.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Another step towards horse and buggy
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Dave, I have no idea what you are talking about, but hey, there can't be a thread with slight P&N tones that doesn't have you.
 
The officer may have been nice and reduced the recorded speed to less than 20mph over.

That would have triggered a much larger penalty.

what were you doing driving without paying attention to the speed limit signs.
they are posted at 65; you chose to ignore them and run at 75 which is what most people hope is under the 10 mph trigger. Then you pushed pass the trigger point and got caught.
You can ignore the ticket and hope that the next time you need to either renew your license or get caught, the state will not check their records to see if VA reported it.

Because if they reported it; then you can lose your license on the spot until you get paperwork from VA showing that you have cleared up the issue.


NOTE: I am not recommending in the least that he ignore it - just stating what could be the result if he does
 
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The officer may have been nice and reduced the recorded speed to less than 20mph over.

That would have triggered a much larger penalty.

what were you doing driving without paying attention to the speed limit signs.
they are posted at 65; you chose to ignore them and run at 75 which is what most people hope is under the 10 mph trigger. Then you pushed pass the trigger point and got caught.
You can ignore the ticket and hope that the next time you need to either renew your license or get caught, the state will not check their records to see if VA reported it.

Because if they reported it; then you can lose your license on the spot until you get paperwork from VA showing that you have cleared up the issue.
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Believe me friend, I have no intention of ignoring it. There is a mandatory court appearance. It is a CLASS 1 MISDEMEANOR. I was technically arrested and summoned. Seems a bit excessive for a speeding violation, but it is what it is.

I lucked out being a PA driver and not a VA driver where on top of everything included in a conviction of a Class 1 Misdemeanor, I would have to pay a yearly tithe of 350$.
 
Same as DWI's, Virginia feels speeds over 80MPH end lives.

If you are on-board with DWI laws consider this helping your own cause.
 
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Oh, so right! You fix the system then, Mr. elite AT lifer.

And by your comparison, you're comparing the standing up to the Jim Crow laws to speeding?... Pfft.
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Well, speed laws affect far more than were affected by Jim Crow issues.
 
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The officer may have been nice and reduced the recorded speed to less than 20mph over.

That would have triggered a much larger penalty.

what were you doing driving without paying attention to the speed limit signs.
they are posted at 65; you chose to ignore them and run at 75 which is what most people hope is under the 10 mph trigger. Then you pushed pass the trigger point and got caught.
You can ignore the ticket and hope that the next time you need to either renew your license or get caught, the state will not check their records to see if VA reported it.

Because if they reported it; then you can lose your license on the spot until you get paperwork from VA showing that you have cleared up the issue.
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this may have worked 30 years ago, but tickets can show up and affect you in other states today.
 
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The officer may have been nice and reduced the recorded speed to less than 20mph over.

That would have triggered a much larger penalty.

what were you doing driving without paying attention to the speed limit signs.
they are posted at 65; you chose to ignore them and run at 75 which is what most people hope is under the 10 mph trigger. Then you pushed pass the trigger point and got caught.
You can ignore the ticket and hope that the next time you need to either renew your license or get caught, the state will not check their records to see if VA reported it.

Because if they reported it; then you can lose your license on the spot until you get paperwork from VA showing that you have cleared up the issue.
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Believe me friend, I have no intention of ignoring it. There is a mandatory court appearance. It is a CLASS 1 MISDEMEANOR. I was technically arrested and summoned. Seems a bit excessive for a speeding violation, but it is what it is.

I lucked out being a PA driver and not a VA driver where on top of everything included in a conviction of a Class 1 Misdemeanor, I would have to pay a yearly tithe of 350$.
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Ok it is a traffic violation. Yes it is a Misdemeanor but a Criminal record generally means that you have committed a Felony! You were not technically arrested or anything. It is just a reckless driving ticket.

First off, no matter how much this kills you to do it:
1. Take a drivers improvement course
2. Get speedometer calibrated
3. Consider getting a lawyer

Why didn't you think before you went and passed? Over 80MPH on an interstate is dangerous. Nobody should give me crap about "I'm a good driver"-- Famous last words guys. I81 is full of Tractor Trailers and can be very windy at parts-- 80MPH is reckless in VA. You are going to have to deal with it.

Do I think it should be the same level as DUI/DWI - No. I think DUI/DWI should be increased and this should remain the same. There is no reason to go 15-20MPH over the speed limit.

-Kevin
 
I was scooting along around 75 on the 65 mile an hour highway. We had thought we had missed my exit and were a little lost so I sped up a to get around a truck. Of course I get nailed ended up getting clocked 83 in a 65.

You know, no one ever says "We thought we missed my exit and were a little lost so I slowed up a bit to let a truck get ahead of me so I could see where I was." Oh, that's because they wouldn't have gotten a ticket for big bucks and be moaning here.
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The officer may have been nice and reduced the recorded speed to less than 20mph over.

That would have triggered a much larger penalty.

what were you doing driving without paying attention to the speed limit signs.
they are posted at 65; you chose to ignore them and run at 75 which is what most people hope is under the 10 mph trigger. Then you pushed pass the trigger point and got caught.
You can ignore the ticket and hope that the next time you need to either renew your license or get caught, the state will not check their records to see if VA reported it.

Because if they reported it; then you can lose your license on the spot until you get paperwork from VA showing that you have cleared up the issue.
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this may have worked 30 years ago, but tickets can show up and affect you in other states today.
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still depends on the states involved

i got one 2 years ago in PA for going 75 in a 45
never showed up in NY, just had to pay a massive fine
 
Originally posted by: allisolm
I was scooting along around 75 on the 65 mile an hour highway. We had thought we had missed my exit and were a little lost so I sped up a to get around a truck. Of course I get nailed ended up getting clocked 83 in a 65.

You know, no one ever says "We thought we missed my exit and were a little lost so I slowed up a bit to let a truck get ahead of me so I could see where I was." Oh, that's because they wouldn't have gotten a ticket for big bucks and be moaning here.
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That is probably why the cop wrote him the ticket for reckless driving instead of just an over 80 MPH ticket. They have had a real problem on 81 with the massive increase in truck traffic. They have discretion when writing tickets for over 80 to write it in a way that you only pay the fine and don't have to go to court but from what the OP says the cop didn't write his ticket that way.
 
Originally posted by: SirStev0
The same fucking thing as Driving with Traffic but a little over the speed limit.
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83 in a 65 is more than 25% over, I don't believe 25% counts as "little over".
 
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