videocardz AMD Radeon R9 290X Memory Bus: 512-bit

[Makaveli]

no he is not. AA is required even at 1600p. do you think the tech websites are testing with MSAA at 1600p for no reason. "1600p does not need MSAA" is just misinformation. heck there are sites testing with SSAA at 1600p in few games which support it. SSAA is even more demanding than MSAA.

sorry I disagree with this also.

And agreed it part of the I need to max everything retarded obsession.

I find less need for AA at 1600p.

 

[krumme]

If the R9 290X (or whatever the official launch name is) comes bundled with BF4 I'll be hard pressed not to pick one up.

Man - I hope you look at the price also!

 

[Olikan]

When is Maxwell suppose to come out anyways? 6+ months?

if nvidia don't have any chip for 28nm....
maxwell, it's at least 9 months away, in very unlikely good circunstances

 

[Despoiler]

I thought the new cards had a new non-blower cooling solution. I swear I saw a quote from AMD to that effect.

 

[tigersty1e]

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigersty1e

for me? I always overclock, and have spoiled pricing expectations that aren't realistic.

I'm comparing it to the $250 7950 card, which can be OC'd to 1200/1700 and comes within ~10% performance of the 7970 ghz edition also OCd to ~1250/1700.

it would have to be priced ~$400-500 for me to jump.

$400 to $500 eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawtdawg

Hopefully the 780 will drop by 100-150 over the next couple of months, and I can snag a 2nd one.

Will be happy if it drops to $500 to $550?



I find this very intriguing. AMD needs to fix this. nVidia's customers are willing to pay $100 more for a card than AMD's customers, even when, as the question was put forth, the AMD card outperforms the competition.

generally speaking you have more misinformed consumers (noobs) buying nvidia. im not saying that's the case with the users on sites like this. but all my friends who don't follow tech are always wanting to buy nvidia.

remember the 8800gt rebadging? consumers couldn't get enough of the same cards. nvidia just hasn't had the bang for buck since 2008.


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[KingFatty]

I refused to buy the 7000 series AMD cards and hung on to my 6950 because the prices were at least $100 too high for every model at launch. It was like AMD was trying to copy NVidia and over-price their cards. So I did what the prudent person does and resisted the urge for the new shiny and waited. I know I want to stick with AMD because their cards have been flawless for me for several generations now. No crashes, no bugs, and high image quality. If they were somehow failing me, I might consider NVidia again, but they aren't so i haven't. You don't change to an unknown from a known unless you are so bored you welcome the potential for introducing problems.

Now the 7000 series cards are finally hitting attractive pricing and I'm going to get one once the reviews hit (tomorrow?) and we know for sure what to expect from the new gen GPUs and how much it may or may not impact older product prices in the short term (which is in part based on how soon we'll see the mid-range cards of the next gen actually available to purchase and therefore competing with the older cards, driving old card prices down until inventories deplete).

I think you are risky for waiting. The market tends to reward times of uncertainty with lower prices.

I think a lot of people are like you, holding out until they get the information that tells them whether to buy. So after that information comes out, people know what to do and pull the trigger.

My prediction is that many people will see the pricing and information on the new cards, and decide right then to get a 7950. All the 7950s will sell out, so you'll miss the great deal right now. Same thing for the great deal on the NVidia 670 and 760. Any cards in that price range will increase in price right after the AMD announcement.

So strike now, when uncertainty is high and prices are low. Just my own prediction, I could be totally off. But man there are some great prices right now, and it seemed to also happen in the past right before release of new gen cards.

 

[wand3r3r]

I think you are risky for waiting. The market tends to reward times of uncertainty with lower prices.

I think a lot of people are like you, holding out until they get the information that tells them whether to buy. So after that information comes out, people know what to do and pull the trigger.

My prediction is that many people will see the pricing and information on the new cards, and decide right then to get a 7950. All the 7950s will sell out, so you'll miss the great deal right now. Same thing for the great deal on the NVidia 670 and 760. Any cards in that price range will increase in price right after the AMD announcement.

So strike now, when uncertainty is high and prices are low. Just my own prediction, I could be totally off. But man there are some great prices right now, and it seemed to also happen in the past right before release of new gen cards.

Perhaps, but I think any possible upswings will be short term. I'd guess by the time the shine wears off prices will be dropping again.

I don't expect upswings in prices anyway.

 

[24601]

I think you are risky for waiting. The market tends to reward times of uncertainty with lower prices.

I think a lot of people are like you, holding out until they get the information that tells them whether to buy. So after that information comes out, people know what to do and pull the trigger.

My prediction is that many people will see the pricing and information on the new cards, and decide right then to get a 7950. All the 7950s will sell out, so you'll miss the great deal right now. Same thing for the great deal on the NVidia 670 and 760. Any cards in that price range will increase in price right after the AMD announcement.

So strike now, when uncertainty is high and prices are low. Just my own prediction, I could be totally off. But man there are some great prices right now, and it seemed to also happen in the past right before release of new gen cards.

Same thing happened in preparation for Titan, 780, 770, and 760 launches.

 

[AnandThenMan]

generally speaking you have more misinformed consumers (noobs) buying nvidia. im not saying that's the case with the users on sites like this. but all my friends who don't follow tech are always wanting to buy nvidia.

remember the 8800gt rebadging? consumers couldn't get enough of the same cards. nvidia just hasn't had the bang for buck since 2008.

This is the case for basically all marketing leading products. People are surprisingly loyal, and will buy the same brand over and over again unless they have a truly horrific experience, then they will switch. It doesn't matter how much better a competing product is, the consumer will rationalize and convince themselves as to why their chosen brand is "the best". Even given substantial evidence, people will latch onto reasons why their purchase was justified, and will most certainly do their best to convince others of the same.

On the Kyle quote, cryptic as usual D: can't wait for the veil to be lifted on the R9 series cards, will be one of the most interesting releases in quite a while IMO.

 

[raghu78]

Of course. Credit where credit is due. If all these bits of info prove accurate, then I surely would congratulate AMD.

good to hear you are willing to appreciate the competition. :thumbsup:

 

[Smartazz]

If this is true then it'll be hard to resist getting one for BF4.

 

[LegSWAT]

When is Maxwell suppose to come out anyways? 6+ months?

When is AMD's 20nm Funky Islands suppose to come out anyways?
- I can't wait to spam the Maxwell thread with silly questions about the upcoming unknown products of their competition!

 

[Jaydip]

Latest from Kyle
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040222072&postcount=57

this is turning out to be really hilarious so when the reviews go live?

 

[96Firebird]

Did a lot of you really miss the "AMD Sez" part of Kyle's post?

 

[VulgarDisplay]

If the games are good enough in the bundle that comes with these cards I may just have to get one. Didn't the 7970 come with 8 games at one point? I cannot turn that down.

I am not compelled to upgrade my 7970 in the slightest, but the bundle would really sway me. That and the 8 bitcoins I have at what looks like $133 right now. I knew I should have sold when it was up around $200.

 

[Smartazz]

If the games are good enough in the bundle that comes with these cards I may just have to get one. Didn't the 7970 come with 8 games at one point? I cannot turn that down.

I am not compelled to upgrade my 7970 in the slightest, but the bundle would really sway me.

I'm hoping I can resist upgrading my 7950. It's still a very fast card but new tech like this is so exciting. I also have gotten a new video card for every Battlefield.

 

[Granseth]

I'm hoping I can resist upgrading my 7950. It's still a very fast card but new tech like this is so exciting. I also have gotten a new video card for every Battlefield.

I'm in the same boat. Bought 7970 at launch and haven't really needed anything else since. Luckily the price of Titan and 780 have saved me so far, but my card feels old even though its fast enough.
So AMD, please price the R9 so high that I can't justify spending money on it.

 

[AdamK47]

Latest from Kyle
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040222072&postcount=57

this is turning out to be really hilarious so when the reviews go live?

Wow! Kyle's system specs aren't as built up as I imagined they would be.

 

[Smartazz]

Wow! Kyle's system specs aren't as built up as I imagined they would be.

I was about to say that SLI Titans are very impressive until I remembered you had 3.

 

[lavaheadache]

Oh rich people problems, its terrible amiright?

Hardly rich. I've made a few good decisions along the way that make it so I don't live pay check to pay check but if I had to worry about where the money was coming from so I could afford a new graphics card I would make another good decision and not be in this hobby altogether. :hmm:

 

[UNhooked]

Rich people buy the Titan

May have to unload one of my GTX 780's for this new card.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Rich people buy the Titan

Rich people are notoriously cheap. Not the type to buy $1000 gpus. How do you think they got rich?

 

[UNhooked]

Rich people are notoriously cheap. Not the type to buy $1000 gpus. How do you think they got rich?

That is true.

 

[Enigmoid]

sorry I disagree with this also.

And agreed it part of the I need to max everything retarded obsession.

I find less need for AA at 1600p.

Agree with you.

I have a 1080p 15.6" laptop and AA is rarely required (makes a difference but not something you really notice compared with say better shadows or textures). 2x AA is nice but 4 or 8x is definitely not required. Pixel density will be the same as a 4k 31" monitor and you are going to be sitting even further away from a 30" monitor than a 15.6" screen.

 

[Teizo]

Latest from Kyle
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040222072&postcount=57

this is turning out to be really hilarious so when the reviews go live?

Sounds like he doesn't have his hands on a card perhaps and tomorrow is not going to be a hard launch (maybe).