You had doubts before? The "missile hit the pentagon" is IMHO the weakest link in the whole tinfoil chain. This video won't change any tin-foilers minds.
K1052
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Originally posted by: AAjax
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
No no no... they painted fake windows on a MISSLE to make it LOOK like a plane.
...and that the CIA used equipment from the Philadelphia Experiment to make the original flight and all its passengers disappear.
Actually they just played upon the peoples unwillingness to deal with the obvious, and their willingness to obey.
The obvious being that a government that can't keep a single BJ by an ugly intern quiet or get my passport info right somehow managed to pull off a massive conspiracy involving the deaths of thousands of American citizens, the destruction of multiple buildings in this country's largest metro areas, the destruction of four commercial airliners along with their crews and passengers, and the silencing of thousands upon thousands of witnesses that would have knowledge exposing the plot both prior to and after the event?
Sure.....
techs
Lifer
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No matter what is on the tapes the very fact that they were kept from the public indicates there was some reason the government didn't want the public to see them.
When the tapes are revealed and if they show nothing that would indicate why they were kept secret, the obvious question, and its perfectly reasonable, is, was there something on the tapes that the government didn't want us to see and was it edited out.
You don't need to be a conspiracy nut to have extreme reservations as to why the heck the government would fight to keep these tapes secret and when forced to release them nothing of real interest is on them.
When the tapes are revealed and if they show nothing that would indicate why they were kept secret, the obvious question, and its perfectly reasonable, is, was there something on the tapes that the government didn't want us to see and was it edited out.
You don't need to be a conspiracy nut to have extreme reservations as to why the heck the government would fight to keep these tapes secret and when forced to release them nothing of real interest is on them.
AAjax
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Look at the rabbit, look at the rabbit......Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: AAjax
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
No no no... they painted fake windows on a MISSLE to make it LOOK like a plane.
...and that the CIA used equipment from the Philadelphia Experiment to make the original flight and all its passengers disappear.
Actually they just played upon the peoples unwillingness to deal with the obvious, and their willingness to obey.
The obvious being that a government that can't keep a single BJ by an ugly intern quiet or get my passport info right somehow managed to pull off a massive conspiracy involving the deaths of thousands of American citizens, the destruction of multiple buildings in this country's largest metro areas, the destruction of four commercial airliners along with their crews and passengers, and the silencing of thousands upon thousands of witnesses that would have knowledge exposing the plot both prior to and after the event?
Sure.....
A breif and honest review of history proves otherwise.
Ignore the most recent tin-foil troll...they are like the gopher game at chuck E cheese. (Only these are basement dweller-live-at-home-with-mommy's instead of gophers, and logic is your club).
Wonder no longer!
Boy that video was really a slam dunk! Hahahahahah best laugh I've had in quite awhile LMAO.
Anyhow, even if this single point is conceded, there still remains about 145 other points which have not. So if this 'video' (a couple of frames) turns out to be correct, this answers less than 1% of outstanding questions and problems with the official conspiracy theory. Please watch the second video link in my sig and educate yourselves, ignorami!
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OK lets try this for logic, Project northwoods was seriously considered by the joint cheifs as a option for dealing with a political situation to incite a war. The fact that they put such an option forward implys the belief that they could get away with it.
Of course there are many historical incidents that show that such action can be "gotten away with"
Americain history, it is at this point commonly accepted that the sinking of the Main in Havana harbor was an intentional act by the US government as an excuse to incite the Spanish American war. US sailors were killed, property was destroyed ect.
Not to mention the odds of a war game/exersise with the exact same targets running at the exact same time as a third party terrorist cell attempts and achives the same objective? Boy what a stroke of luck for them?
Believe what the box in your living room tells you, why would they lie? I mean they have never done that before..... right?
GTaudiophile
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WTF! What I am seeing from FoxNews is nothing new. It's like they released a few more frames to the same tape. WTF! Just release the whole GD thing already!
And it does look more like a missle, not a plane. Nose cone? Yeah right!
And it does look more like a missle, not a plane. Nose cone? Yeah right!
Maybe they dont want everyone from our enemies to al-qaeda to get a chance to study the explosion
Yeah, because smashing something at high speed into a building is a really technical experiment that took years of reasearch to figure out that it might cause some damage.
No it doesn't. You're making a(nother) logical fallacy by leaping to conclusions. You have no idea why they decided not to release the tapes. It could be anything from innate desire to limit the enemy's ability to use the tape of them hitting the epicenter of American military might as propaganda to a desire to prevent our enemies/fair weather friends/ terrorists from analyzing the tape and getting a sense of the internal design of the pentagon. Or maybe it was for legal reasons. Or maybe an illogical bureaucratic decision. All you know is that the tapes weren't released, and now they are. Anything else such as assigning motive is pure fantasy.
You really need to rethink your reasoning methodology
No no no you are the troll in the mommy's basement! Don't take my insults - make up your own!
However, my post was a completely accurate reflection of your logic. There certainly is a scenario where monkeys could fly out my butt. It's quite unlikely however.
Would you like me to dissect the falsehoods and lack of logic in your post to send you scampering back to your basement? It's really not fun for me, and you won't accept the results regardless of how well I prove your failures, but if you ask me very nicely I will.
No it's not, you're full of sh8t. Show me where that's true. Every historical account I've read indicates the cause is unknown but likely a boiler-room explosion
techs
Lifer
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You need to see the tape. It is worthless as a propaganda tool and worthless as a tool for terrorists to see the internal design of the pentagon.
In fact it is completely worthless.
I can't even see a plane anywhere in the video.
So I wonder why they fought so hard to keep it secret?
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It was not released to the public because there was a trial going on. The reason it looks like arse is because its from a security camera in the parking lot. A fixed camera recording 2fps recording a plane smashing into a building at ~ 350 mph won't be seen much. There is a frame where you can see the nose cone before impact. But its hard to make out much.
But not knowing all the legalese, it certainly seems plausible that they held the tape as it was eveidence in a trial.
Techs: where do you get the idea they "fought so hard"? It's the government. The default answer is "no" to everything, and you basically have to have a court order to release anything. It's always been that way and always will be that way. I'm sure it makes you feel better to think that there is some nefarious republican consipiracy going on to validate your paritsanship, but every stuffed shirt in Washington is a small cog in a big inefficient, poorly run machine.
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