Video on MTV yesterday about Holocaust

Gooberlx2

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Flipping through channels yesterday I landed on MTV, showning a video called "I'm Still Here: Real Diaries of Young People Who Lived During the Holocaust".

It was quite a good little documentary. Very informative and sad. I want to record it, but I haven't seen any future recordings scheduled.

I was astonished by one statistic though: "53% of highschoolers don't know anything about the holocaust"...so they say. Can this be true? Are schools just not teaching about it? I certainly remember covering it several times when I was in highschool (western civ, 20th century, german class, etc...)

It boggles the mind and saddens it more.
 

FleshLight

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Maybe it's because it never happened!

You'd be surprised what the average high schooler doesn't know. I blame existentialism.
 

shuan24

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I guess it depends on what grade in high school? If you're asking ninth graders, that doesn't really surprise me.
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Young people in general seem stupid and uninformed these days.

Seriously, to me simply learning about WWII should mean you learned about the holocaust somewhere in there.
 

FleshLight

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Young people in general seem stupid and uninformed these days.

Seriously, to me simply learning about WWII should mean you learned about the holocaust somewhere in there.

Thing about US History is that there's over 200 years of history to cover.
 

shuan24

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Originally posted by: FleshLight
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Young people in general seem stupid and uninformed these days.

Seriously, to me simply learning about WWII should mean you learned about the holocaust somewhere in there.

Thing about US History is that there's over 200 years of history to cover.


True, but somehow I feel that the years 1940-1945 is 100000x more important than, say, the years 1890-1895...
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: shuan24
I guess it depends on what grade in high school? If you're asking ninth graders, that doesn't really surprise me.

Very true.....stats can be skewed or taken out of context to say just about anything. A phrase comes to mind: "76.3% of all statistics are pulled straight outta the @ss.

Some of the interviewees were definately seniors though.....stupid stupid seniors.
 

shilala

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I bet it was a brilliant and conscise piece.
"Joo eber hear bout them holocausts?"
"Nah bitch, get your black ass over here and check this out, there's some lesbians in the hot tub trying to work out their relationship difficulties."
What a shithole MTV has become.
 

shuan24

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: shuan24
I guess it depends on what grade in high school? If you're asking ninth graders, that doesn't really surprise me.

Very true.....stats can be skewed or taken out of context to say just about anything. A phrase comes to mind: "76.3% of all statistics are pulled straight outta the @ss.

Some of the interviewees were definately seniors though.....stupid stupid seniors.

LOL very true.
Here is the breakdown of the people that got surveyed:
30% - Football players
40% - Beginning freshman
30% - cheerleaders
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: FleshLight
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Young people in general seem stupid and uninformed these days.

Seriously, to me simply learning about WWII should mean you learned about the holocaust somewhere in there.

Thing about US History is that there's over 200 years of history to cover.

True, but US history isn't (or wasn't for me) the only history course that had to be taken throughout middle school and highschool. And I wouldn't have thought History class would be the only course where it would be brought up. It surfaced again for me in lit class.
 

James3shin

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its sad...go and ask some high school student who wrote the bill of rights and be amazed....
 

FleshLight

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: FleshLight
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Young people in general seem stupid and uninformed these days.

Seriously, to me simply learning about WWII should mean you learned about the holocaust somewhere in there.

Thing about US History is that there's over 200 years of history to cover.

True, but US history isn't (or wasn't for me) the only history course that had to be taken throughout middle school and highschool. And I wouldn't have though History class would be the only course where it would be brought up. It surfaced again for me in lit class.

Well World History is way too broad to focus on something as specific in the holocaust. Quite frankly, I don't think there's anything to learn from the holocaust other than man's inhumanity to man, as opposed to the civil rights movement, gilded age, etc.
 

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Originally posted by: FleshLight
Maybe it's because it never happened!

You'd be surprised what the average high schooler doesn't know. I blame existentialism.

I know this is obviously meant tongue in cheek, but you could at least be factually correct about the existentialism comment, unless you are much wittier than I had you pegged (which I highly doubt ;)).
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: FleshLight
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Young people in general seem stupid and uninformed these days.

Seriously, to me simply learning about WWII should mean you learned about the holocaust somewhere in there.

Thing about US History is that there's over 200 years of history to cover.

True, but US history isn't (or wasn't for me) the only history course that had to be taken throughout middle school and highschool. And I wouldn't have thought History class would be the only course where it would be brought up. It surfaced again for me in lit class.

wait, you guys think that 200 years is a lot?

wtf do you think japanese students have to learn (or are spoon fed incorrectly).
Germans?
Europeans in general?

their history is so much longer than ours it isnt funny then you talk about roman history, and what not, it gets insane. we the U.S. are so spoiled it isnt funny.

and yes, i know what the holocaust was, and how it still affects ppls lives

MIKE
 

FleshLight

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: FleshLight
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Young people in general seem stupid and uninformed these days.

Seriously, to me simply learning about WWII should mean you learned about the holocaust somewhere in there.

Thing about US History is that there's over 200 years of history to cover.

True, but US history isn't (or wasn't for me) the only history course that had to be taken throughout middle school and highschool. And I wouldn't have thought History class would be the only course where it would be brought up. It surfaced again for me in lit class.

wait, you guys think that 200 years is a lot?

wtf do you think japanese students have to learn (or are spoon fed incorrectly).
Germans?
Europeans in general?

their history is so much longer than ours it isnt funny then you talk about roman history, and what not, it gets insane. we the U.S. are so spoiled it isnt funny.

and yes, i know what the holocaust was, and how it still affects ppls lives

MIKE

Well yes but those are different courses.

An A-Level US History course would have to cover from the Colonial period to the collapse of the soviet union. It'd probably spend a month discussing civil rights, another month discussing the revolution, another month discussing the civil war, etc. Plus, to many kids, US history is pretty pointless since they probably don't plan on becoming history majors. They just absorb the information and regurgitate two weeks later.

Edit: And as for history of the entire world, that's what European, World, Age of Chivalry, etc are for.
 

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53% of highschoolers don't know anything about anything.
 

drum

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we watched schindler's list in HS. Sure there are things from HS i don't remember seing as that was a few years ago, but thats not something I would forget about