Video of SWAT Raid on Missouri Family, kill family dog

[JSt0rm]

Sigh, another gnat.

ok internet warrior. nobody cares about the online tough guy.

 

[Narmer]

ok internet warrior. nobody cares about the online tough guy.

Internet warrior. Cute. You guys don't take the time to read posts? I swear, it seems like somebody must've beaten your head in harder than you beat your meat. It must be the drugs. The cops damaged property and only property. Hug it out or cry it out like the drug father and everything will be fine.

 

[JSt0rm]

Internet warrior. Cute. You guys don't take the time to read posts? I swear, it seems like somebody must've beaten your head in harder than you beat your meat. It must be the drugs. The cops damaged property and only property. Hug it out or cry it out like the drug father and everything will be fine.

lol. wut. This again? hahahah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A&playnext_from=TL&videos=qaQ7up7mIC8

 

[Atheus]

*glad I don't live in America post*

 

[alkemyst]

Is there any indication that the dog is violent?

most LEO's are told to shoot any pets on sight if going in for a 'bust'...not worth the risk to their donut trained asses.

This is a sad deal. Caged animal and a fucking corgi is bad enough, but in front of a bunch of kids is going to just create a life of hurt.

Personally I feel if this guy is proved to just be a 'smoker' (I don't smoke anything myself), I'd accept one of those kids hunting down those that killed their dogs if I was on the jury.

 

[alkemyst]

Why should it stop them? The cops are just doing their job. Who knows what that dog could have done. The guy should have answered the door when the cops announced themselves.

They waited 8 seconds.

Even if I am awake it's going to take more than that for me to walk and get some clothes on to get to the door when I am not expecting anyone.

If I am not expecting someone a bit longer because I am just not going to yell out where I am in my house and open the door.

 

[MrColin]

And you must be one of those types who think that people, so long as they're of adult age and competent, should be allowed to do drugs. That simple, stupid logic neatly forgets the hardship drugs can have on society. Addiction, loss of productivity, treatment costs, pain to friends and family, crime, etc...

The war on drug may be unpopular but it's a necessary evil for government. Better to fight it than let your society succumb to the aforementioned affects.

When you consider that the contraband status of drugs provides large revenue streams to violent gangs (that wouldn't exist otherwise) and that a taxed and regulated drug trade would create jobs and tax revenues, your argument holds no water.

I'm not saying that there should be heroin in vending machines but we definitely should not be shooting people's dogs to make marijuana arrests.

There were at least 7 armored pigs, at least one of them could have been assigned to handle the dogs. That would still leave 6 free to terrorize the family.

 

[alkemyst]

unfortunately you can't handle 'dogs' on guard...it's a kill or be hurt situation. That said, these dogs didn't pose a threat and was simply a method to punish/threaten.

I had a cop fully pull out and point his weapon at me while I was just cruising into CitiBank in Palm Beach. He somehow profiled me for whatever reason.

If my wife wasn't going through the whole INS process we'd have sued, we had at least 20 people ready to complain. Fortunately this cop was disciplined, it wasn't his first time trying to be a gunslinger.

The new deal around here is when you know a gangbanger or dealer is around you just keep busting them for minor violations. Once you get a handful, then use RICO for a major sentence.

I can agree to this to a point, however; when some cop makes the wrong guy the target it's sad.

Personally I still say go after those with enough to distribute (say $5K+ in street value), but ticket those with just a joint or two in their possession.

I'd have no problem legalizing marijuana, the biggest issue is it's a 'ghetto' drug though. Too many think it's cool to come home for lunch, get stoned...then drive back and operate things that can hurt others when done incorrectly. Many of these people aren't 100% already when at their best, yet feel they are 110% even at their worst. Totally clueless floating through life.

 

[William Gaatjes]

unfortunately you can't handle 'dogs' on guard...it's a kill or be hurt situation. That said, these dogs didn't pose a threat and was simply a method to punish/threaten.

I had a cop fully pull out and point his weapon at me while I was just cruising into CitiBank in Palm Beach. He somehow profiled me for whatever reason.

If my wife wasn't going through the whole INS process we'd have sued, we had at least 20 people ready to complain. Fortunately this cop was disciplined, it wasn't his first time trying to be a gunslinger.

The new deal around here is when you know a gangbanger or dealer is around you just keep busting them for minor violations. Once you get a handful, then use RICO for a major sentence.

I can agree to this to a point, however; when some cop makes the wrong guy the target it's sad.

Personally I still say go after those with enough to distribute (say $5K+ in street value), but ticket those with just a joint or two in their possession.

I'd have no problem legalizing marijuana, the biggest issue is it's a 'ghetto' drug though. Too many think it's cool to come home for lunch, get stoned...then drive back and operate things that can hurt others when done incorrectly. Many of these people aren't 100% already when at their best, yet feel they are 110% even at their worst. Totally clueless floating through life.

I totally agree with your post and the bolded section in particular. For some reason when something like marijuana gets glorified, all of a sudden its cool. Why is it for a large part of humans so important to copy some idol like a slave ? I have never been able to comprehend that. It is beyond me. Clothes, being clean, not wearing to ridiculous outfits. It all makes sense. But to blindly copy some idol ?

Not so long ago, it was the same for plain cigarettes. Another example is that only real men drink beer preferably all day... (While forgetting beer is filled with estrogen, a steroid that in sufficient quantities can and does alter male androgen levels ). Alcohol in large amounts seems to damage muscle tissue as well.

Why are there so much people that refuse to accept that some pleasures need to be experienced in low quantities ? Sigh...

 

[alkemyst]

I totally agree with your post and the bolded section in particular. For some reason when something like marijuana gets glorified, all of a sudden its cool. Why is it for a large part of humans so important to copy some idol like a slave ? I have never been able to comprehend that. It is beyond me. Clothes, being clean, not wearing to ridiculous outfits. It all makes sense. But to blindly copy some idol ?

Not so long ago, it was the same for plain cigarettes. Another example is that only real men drink beer preferably all day... (While forgetting beer is filled with estrogen, a steroid that in sufficient quantities can and does alter male androgen levels ). Alcohol in large amounts seems to damage muscle tissue as well.

Why are there so much people that refuse to accept that some pleasures need to be experienced in low quantities ? Sigh...

well I can't agree with all the above, especially the beer / estrogen thing (which is the whole Soy debate as well).

I also don't do things in low quantities that are worth doing, however; I schedule them for the proper time to play.

 

[bhos]

So you're looking at an image and deem his life normal? You don't know what hidden behind the veil. You don't know the drug father's relationship with the CI. You also don't know his relationship with the community. Again, if this guy wanted to be a good father, he wouldn't have this mess around his family. He, in effect, invited the police into his house and he deserved everything he got. Seeing him cry like a little bitch after he found out his dog died made me hope that one of the cops would've punched him in the throat, just to get a manly response out of him. This guy is an embarrassment to his family. I'm sure when he was in detention, he was begging for a humble.

You're not seeing the forest for the trees. I doubt a pipe/3gm of pot was on the search warrant. The fact is they were there to bust a drug dealer, and found zero evidence to support that reason for being there. Finding a pipe and personal bag was just lucky, that's a ticket/fine in Columbia, MO. If they raided every home in that city, they'd probably find dope in at least a quarter of them.

They screwed up and shouldn't have been there in the first place (that's what happens when you're too lazy to actually do your job and investigate things.) It's much easier I guess when you get a tip to just call in the SWAT team (they need to justify their existence, so why not use them) and raid and hope you get lucky and can confiscate/auction some nice stuff. But instead of apologizing to the guy for shooting up his house/pets & terrorizing his family, they try to tell him he has endangering his own son by being SUSPECTED of being a drug dealer? That didn't work either so now they slander him in the news, because evidence is over-rated anyway... and that innocent until proven guilty stuff just gets in the way of serving and protecting the public...

BTW, I've heard from a few reliable "informants" that some SWAT guys use illegal steroids and some may have enough to be considered "distributers" of steroids. Let's get some search warrants. I hear these suspects usually have guns and dogs so we should go in late at night and we'll have to use SWAT teams to execute the warrants so everyone is safer....

 

[CitizenKain]

Internet warrior. Cute. You guys don't take the time to read posts? I swear, it seems like somebody must've beaten your head in harder than you beat your meat. It must be the drugs. The cops damaged property and only property. Hug it out or cry it out like the drug father and everything will be fine.

That's funny, someone as fucking retarded as yourself accusing others of not reading.

So how many people in your family weren't good enough for a real job and joined the police force? The way you blindly defend the police makes me think you either want to be a cop, but even lack the ability to accomplish that, I hear it requires some schooling. Or you are cop, but are a desk jocky who only gets to sit and dream about holding a family at gunpoint to prove how manly you are, but being only able to terrorize a box of donuts. Either way, a failure at life. I mean, you even believe the DRUGS ARE BAD rhetoric, no one with any education believes that shit.

 

[xj0hnx]

Once again you do not read. And you clearly still have not re-read the other posts. It is an obvious "side effect". Be happy with your life. I will feel sad for those around you one moment in time...

One is not the other. Although probability predicts that if one would have a pitbull it is very likely that the animal can have a trigger. However, the chance of genetics still exists but is rare that such a dog becomes friendly in one generation of breeding. I know of these dogs. And i also know about the truly happened horror stories about children with their faces and limbs torn off while the parents did everything they could. Even let the dog bite them. But the dog would let go and attack the child once again. In all cases the children died of horrible mutilation, loss of tissue and blood loss.

To have those dogs is as foolish as having a real wild wolf as a pet. In the case of a wolf too intelligent, in both cases to wild, to big of a chance to become lethal.

These animals have been forbidden for sometime where i stay. However, people without work (and making up lies and excuses that they cannot work but do collect welfare) and nothing else to do but complain have been making progress to be legalizing the mixture of breeds these dogs are once again.
Even though the biting incidents with the still remaining dogs has been similar in numbers as before the ban with all occurring dogs combined with the dogs that went blood frenzy and where put to sleep forever.

Hey look, a bunch of crap that doesn't refute your ignorance, color me not surprised.

 

[Darwin333]

Ahhh, a verbose response. With that, I think I'm done here. Remember, if you do drugs, you will hear from the police eventually. Just because you have a 'normal' family, you're not far removed from the drug world. It's assholes like you that provide the incentives for the long running war in places like Colombia and the recent upsurge in violence in Mexico where thousands of innocent people have died. Assholes like you, who believe that 'just a little pot doesn't harm anyone', fuel the flame where many lives are ruined, in America and around the world. You're not above and beyond the law, above and beyond the chaos, or above and beyond sorrow that drugs cost. And if you think you're far removed from the drug world, I pray one day that you get processed in the criminal justice system. There, with luck, you'll get to meet those who you think you're better than. Today, it's youtube. Tomorrow, it's you.

THE WAR IS REAL.

So tactics such as these are used to teach lessons and not solely for the safety of the police? As far as "processed through the criminal justice system", the guy committed a misdemeanor that was so horrid it resulted in a $300 fine. He won't serve any jail time and if he had a decent lawyer he spent a minimal amount of time in a holding cell. But you do have a point, the cops sure scared the shit out of him.

Funny, I never thought that intimidating the public was the job of the police. They should start performing no knocks on those assholes that ride your ass when driving (its a misdemeanor too) and those assholes that drive under the minimum posted speed. They piss me off a lot more than some guy who tokes up in his own house. And if you get a few wrong, oh well, cost of doing business I guess (sorry about your dog/kid/wife, be sure to fix that door so we don't have to come back and write a report about your stuff being stolen).

 

[Darwin333]

Internet warrior. Cute. You guys don't take the time to read posts? I swear, it seems like somebody must've beaten your head in harder than you beat your meat. It must be the drugs. The cops damaged property and only property. Hug it out or cry it out like the drug father and everything will be fine.

Psychological damage to a small child is simply "damaging property" to you?

 

[Number1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4ZQvRnllI&feature=related

Child endangerment. It makes me sick . Let me enter a cops house and look into medican cabinet. Child endangerment indeed . The SS is what these ass wipes are.

I agree with you on this one Nemesis1. That's the moronic US justice system for you supported by republican hardass like Namer. The same type of people vehemently oppose to homosexuality who get cut having sex with strangers in the public bathrooms of the nation.

Unless the officer's life was threatened, shooting his gun REPEATEDLY in a crowded house is COMPLETELY irresponsible and is endangering every members of the family and his fellow officers.
What a fucking bunch of bozos.

 

[dank69]

Yes, because SWAT teams wear pants made of pure kevlar. Besides you've already admitted you know nothing. Stop fuming and get out of here before you embarrass yourself again.

The only thing embarassing here is your pathetic attempt to save face.

So you're looking at an image and deem his life normal? You don't know what hidden behind the veil. You don't know the drug father's relationship with the CI. You also don't know his relationship with the community. Again, if this guy wanted to be a good father, he wouldn't have this mess around his family. He, in effect, invited the police into his house and he deserved everything he got. Seeing him cry like a little bitch after he found out his dog died made me hope that one of the cops would've punched him in the throat, just to get a manly response out of him. This guy is an embarrassment to his family. I'm sure when he was in detention, he was begging for a humble.

Hopefully someday a cop will pull you over for rolling a stop sign and pop your crying kid in the back seat because he is a distraction that could have gotten his partner killed while writing you a ticket.

 

[zsdersw]

I read this entire thread but did not watch the Youtube video.

So let's please...

1. Narmer is, by every post in this thread, implying that committing an illegal act gives law enforcement carte blanche and they can use whatever force they see fit, regardless of the illegal act committed; there is no concept, to him, of a "proportional response". This is not consistent with the laws of any state or the nation.

2. While using the SWAT team for something of this nature is an obviously boneheaded mistake by the administration, the individual team members also made mistakes. These team members should not be hidden behind their superiors. Analysis of each situation is required, regardless of what you're told to do.

3. What I've read was in the video is not consistent with some aspects of the police department's story. This is troubling on many levels. It makes those who spoke for the police look either incompetent or deliberately misleading. Neither is acceptable.

4. Would it have really been that hard for the SWAT team to use a tranquilizer on the dog(s)? No. However, given that they missed the original target and hit another dog, I'm thinking that those particular members of the team belong in The Three Stooges instead of a police SWAT team.

Thanks for joining me on Consider the Following.

 

[Ns1]

the good and the bad in bold

COLUMBIA, Mo - The shooting death of a pit bull in a SWAT team raid is bringing about policy changes in the Columbia, Missouri Police Department.

A SWAT team raided a home in Columbia and during the raid, shot and killed the family's pit bull. They also shot and injured a corgi. YouTube video of the raid shows a child was also in the home at the time.

The police chief is backing up his officers' actions.

"Every indicator to me shows that this was a justifiable shooting. The dog was aggressive and the dog got shot," Chief Ken Burton said.

The Columbia Daily Tribune reports that SWAT officers found a grinder, a pipe and a small amount of marijuana in the home.

Columbia's mayor said changes will be made to the policy police officers follow when executing a search warrant.

 

[TechBoyJK]

So you're looking at an image and deem his life normal? You don't know what hidden behind the veil. You don't know the drug father's relationship with the CI. You also don't know his relationship with the community. Again, if this guy wanted to be a good father, he wouldn't have this mess around his family. He, in effect, invited the police into his house and he deserved everything he got. Seeing him cry like a little bitch after he found out his dog died made me hope that one of the cops would've punched him in the throat, just to get a manly response out of him. This guy is an embarrassment to his family. I'm sure when he was in detention, he was begging for a humble..

Hello pyschopath! There's some irony in knowing that you taking this position, along with the actions of the police form, is more harmful to society than the weed this all started over.

 

[Brovane]

Another ridiculous example of over zealous use of Swat Teams, by local police departments. Years ago Swat Teams where only called out for very serious situations. Now Swat Teams are called out routinely for simple search warrants. It now seems like every department has a Swat Team, no matter how small. By having a Swat Team the cops get to live out there dreams of being a Commando. They get to dress up in cool black ninja suits and carry Machine Guns and do all sorts of extra training. Really this is just the continuation of the inappropriate militarization of police departments. The "War on Drugs" has become the "War on America".

 

[xj0hnx]

Another ridiculous example of over zealous use of Swat Teams, by local police departments. Years ago Swat Teams where only called out for very serious situations. Now Swat Teams are called out routinely for simple search warrants. It now seems like every department has a Swat Team, no matter how small. By having a Swat Team the cops get to live out there dreams of being a Commando. They get to dress up in cool black ninja suits and carry Machine Guns and do all sorts of extra training. Really this is just the continuation of the inappropriate militarization of police departments. The "War on Drugs" has become the "War on America".

Are you kidding? A dime bag and a vicious Corgi are plenty of reason to break out the S.W.A.T., extreme situations call for extreme measures. Departments like the funding, gotta prove they need it you know.

 

[marincounty]

This is just a natural result of having unregulated police departments. They investigate themselves, except in a few cities that have police review commissions, and even then they are usually toothless.

Reckless and Callous Disregard
A Richmond, Virginia(sic California) couple, Cynthia Peters and Mark Parr have been awarded $210,000 after they filed a civil rights lawsuit. Peters and Parr accused Richmond police officers of "reckless and callous disregard", in the shooting death of their pit bull in July 2005. Another 15,000 was paid to a passerby Genevia Walker, who stated her neck had been burned after bullet casings flew and hit her neck as reported by the Chronicle.

The whole incident occurred on July 27, 2005 when Richmond police officers had been chasing a suspect in the area that Peters and Parr had resided. The police then opened the gate where the dog was at and continued to pursue the suspect. The dog was then shot 11 times with a handgun and a shotgun. Parr who was inside of the house at the time ran outside and confronted officers "Why'd you shoot my dog?". According to the lawsuit papers filed with the United States District Court in San Fransisco, the police officers then turned towards Parr and pointed their guns at him, allegedly kick and punched Parr, and threw him to the ground, as reported by the Chronicle.

No charges were filed against Mark Parr, however during the incident he was arrested on suspicion of obstructing police officers. After the incident occurred an internal investigation by the Richmond Police Department was underway. The police department found that no fault was done with the officers in question. Peters and Parr appealed that decision immediately. By February 2006, the Police Commission ruled in favor of Peters and Parr, stating that Blu's death was insufficient departmental guidelines for handling such situations as reported by the Chronicle.
This is not the first incident where the city had to pay a large sum for an unnecessary shooting of an animal. In 1991, officers shot and killed James Fuller's dog "Champ" after police had entered his yard to talk to him. Fuller was awarded $500,000 as reported by the Chronicle.

 

[JSt0rm]

good fuck these pigs. These little shit towns all over the us with high school diploma fat cops need to be sued into submission.

 

[Brovane]

Are you kidding? A dime bag and a vicious Corgi are plenty of reason to break out the S.W.A.T., extreme situations call for extreme measures. Departments like the funding, gotta prove they need it you know.

Yes you are right. That Corgi could have been a Al Qaeda traing Corgi and it could have turned on the Swat Team as soon as there backs where turned and taken them all out. Next time they should have brought there surplus armored car they got from the military so they could have driven right through the house. You have to make sure you get all those dime bags before somebody smokes it. You have to justify all that extra training and equipment for the swat team. Better yet you just confiscate people's property on some trumped up charge and then you can get all sorts of cool stuff for your Swat Team club house. You can later drop the charges because there is no evidence but you get to keep all the cool stuff for your club house.