Video of SWAT Raid on Missouri Family, kill family dog

[JSt0rm]

Yes you are right. That Corgi could have been a Al Qaeda traing Corgi and it could have turned on the Swat Team as soon as there backs where turned and taken them all out. Next time they should have brought there surplus armored car they got from the military so they could have driven right through the house. You have to make sure you get all those dime bags before somebody smokes it. You have to justify all that extra training and equipment for the swat team. Better yet you just confiscate people's property on some trumped up charge and then you can get all sorts of cool stuff for your Swat Team club house. You can later drop the charges because there is no evidence but you get to keep all the cool stuff for your club house.

They should of tossed the holy hand grenade in there.

 

[Brovane]

They should of tossed the holy hand grenade in there.

I heard a rumor that SWAT team members are trying to compensate for having a small penis, so they join SWAT so they can take out there anger and frustration on civilians.

 

[JSt0rm]

I heard a rumor that SWAT team members are trying to compensate for having a small penis, so they join SWAT so they can take out there anger and frustration on civilians.

small penis not very smart and some of those guys looked over weight but they know how to pull a trigger :\ very easy thing to do.

 

[werepossum]

I agree with you. If one sends a hunter, do not expect the hunter to stand down once the targets are acquired.

Guys, this is pure bullshit. SWAT goes on all kinds of calls, including into the most dangerous homes in the country. They are NOT mindless hunters of humans. The vast majority of them never make a bad shoot, even though they know at any time a killer might be just around the corner with a weapon capable of cutting through kevlar (not to mention the quite real possibility of taking a fatal non-torso shot.) SWAT members are typically more disciplined than are regular cops, who are in turn more disciplined than are the rest of us. (I for one freely admit I would have fired on many occasions when a cop held his fire, including one incident here in Chattanooga where the lady lost her life.) The fault here wasn't in sending SWAT, that may or may not have been a good decision depending on the known information at the time. The fault here is one or more bad cops who happen to be SWAT members, either people who enjoy terrorizing others or people who (like me) are just not suited to bursting in on a potentially deadly scene where some or all there may be perfectly harmless people. Men who shoot barking yap dogs, or pit bulls behind a gate, are not suited to be cops.

 

[Narmer]

All I see in this thread is a lot of bitching. I see no constructive efforts to change the drug laws. Until then, I hope police continue to run wild on your asses for breaking the law. Go medieval. If that doesn't tell you that doing illegal activities is bad for your health, pride, and wallet, I'm not sure what will. I'm sure the guy in the video was just like you'll. Acting all tough, bragging about his drugs and his dogs. Now, look at him. Humiliated in front of his family over a humble. Crying like a girl because he couldn't stop smoking/selling drugs. If ya can't stand the heat, stay da fuck out da kitchen.

 

[dank69]

All I see in this thread is a lot of bitching. I see no constructive efforts to change the drug laws. Until then, I hope police continue to run wild on your asses for breaking the law. Go medieval. If that doesn't tell you that doing illegal activities is bad for your health, pride, and wallet, I'm not sure what will. I'm sure the guy in the video was just like you'll. Acting all tough, bragging about his drugs and his dogs. Now, look at him. Humiliated in front of his family over a humble. Crying like a girl because he couldn't stop smoking/selling drugs. If ya can't stand the heat, stay da fuck out da kitchen.

Stay in school, you need all the education you can get, troll.

 

[Narmer]

Stay in school, you need all the education you can get, troll.

One more week and I'll be out. But it must be nice for an astute man such as yourself to ignore the underlying problem here and blame the cops for doing their jobs. Personal responsibility seems to be going out of fashion in this country. The individual has a choice whether or not to obey the law that a politician that he elects can control (but not manage). No, instead, the individual wants to bitch about police 'brutality' where there is none.

 

[Linflas]

Stay in school, you need all the education you can get, troll.

Actually he has a point that is being ignored. The so called war on drugs has corrupted the rule of law, peoples view and relationship with law enforcement, and law enforcement itself. In some cases our constitutional protections have been weakened as regards probable cause and search and seizure all in the futile effort to stop the unstoppable. It only took us 13 years to realize the futility of Prohibition regarding alcohol but we now entering year 37 of the DEA and very little to show for all we have given up both in rights and tax dollars.

 

[zsdersw]

No, instead, the individual wants to bitch about police 'brutality' where there is none.

You're dismissing what is, essentially, an abuse of "proportional response". That's just as egregious, if not more, than marijuana use/possession.

The facts are:

1. There was no need for a SWAT team.

2. The SWAT team was not in any real danger from the dog(s).

3. The SWAT team missed one dog and hit another. That's incompetence at best.. which in a SWAT team should never be dismissed.

These are all distinctly separate from and not related to the drug use/possession.

 

[dank69]

One more week and I'll be out. But it must be nice for an astute man such as yourself to ignore the underlying problem here and blame the cops for doing their jobs. Personal responsibility seems to be going out of fashion in this country. The individual has a choice whether or not to obey the law that a politician that he elects can control (but not manage). No, instead, the individual wants to bitch about police 'brutality' where there is none.

It is not their job to shoot dogs on sight. While I agree the laws need to change, it is still no excuse for abuse of power.

 

[Narmer]

You're dismissing what is, essentially, an abuse of "proportional response". That's just as egregious, if not more, than marijuana use/possession.

The facts are:

1. There was no need for a SWAT team.

2. The SWAT team was not in any real danger from the dog(s).

3. The SWAT team missed one dog and hit another. That's incompetence at best.. which in a SWAT team should never be dismissed.

These are all distinctly separate from and not related to the drug use/possession.

1. A SWAT team does not decide when and where to go. They are doing their job. Have a problem with that, blame someone else.

2. You do not know what situation they were in when they entered the house.

3. Missing a dog does not mean they are incompetent. It just means they missed their target.

 

[xj0hnx]

3. Missing a dog does not mean they are incompetent. It just means they missed their target.

Hitting the WRONG target in a raid is incompetent.

 

[zsdersw]

1. A SWAT team does not decide when and where to go. They are doing their job. Have a problem with that, blame someone else.

2. You do not know what situation they were in when they entered the house.

3. Missing a dog does not mean they are incompetent. It just means they missed their target.

1. I have in my "consider the following" post. Blame also goes to the SWAT team itself for how they handled the situation.

2. The dog was behind a fence. That's hardly a threat.

3. Missing the target is incompetent, whether you accept it or not.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

1. A SWAT team does not decide when and where to go. They are doing their job. Have a problem with that, blame someone else.

2. You do not know what situation they were in when they entered the house.

3. Missing a dog does not mean they are incompetent. It just means they missed their target.

And to go back a few dozen posts, what if they missed and hit a civilian infant/toddler/pregnant mother etc...
A dog/cat is as much a part of the family as any sibling. You go through the same grieving process when you lose one.
For the incompetent dimwit to miss a pit bull is 100% proof they are not up to the quality expected and needed by a SWAT team.

 

[MJinZ]

Why should it stop them? The cops are just doing their job. Who knows what that dog could have done. The guy should have answered the door when the cops announced themselves.

You know what, everyone is just doing their jobs. The Nazis were just doing their jobs.

Why are people so cerebrally challenged?

 

[Narmer]

1. I have in my "consider the following" post. Blame also goes to the SWAT team itself for how they handled the situation.

2. The dog was behind a fence. That's hardly a threat.

3. Missing the target is incompetent, whether you accept it or not.

Who gives a fuck about a baby fence when a PIT BULL is on the other side.

Also, if you expect police to be perfect shooters then I guess I cannot argue with you. Those are your expectations. I think you've watched too many movies, though.

 

[Narmer]

And to go back a few dozen posts, what if they missed and hit a civilian infant/toddler/pregnant mother etc...
A dog/cat is as much a part of the family as any sibling. You go through the same grieving process when you lose one.
For the incompetent dimwit to miss a pit bull is 100% proof they are not up to the quality expected and needed by a SWAT team.

Whether or not the pet was part of the family means nothing to me. It was property in the eyes of the law. If police had hit a child, just like if they'd hit each other, then we'd be discussing it. But that is pure speculation.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Who gives a fuck about a baby fence when a PIT BULL is on the other side.

Also, if you expect police to be perfect shooters then I guess I cannot argue with you. Those are your expectations. I think you've watched too many movies, though.

SWAT ≠ regular old street beat cop
SWAT -A SWAT (special weapons and tactics) team is an elite paramilitary tactical unit in American and some international law enforcement departments. They are trained to perform high-risk operations that fall outside of the abilities of regular officers. Their duties include performing hostage rescues and counter-terrorism operations, serving high risk arrest and search warrants, subduing barricaded suspects, and engaging heavily-armed criminals. A SWAT team is often equipped with specialized firearms including assault rifles, submachine guns, shotguns, carbines, riot control agents, stun grenades, and high-powered rifles for snipers. They have specialized equipment including heavy body armor, entry tools, armored vehicles, advanced night vision optics, and motion detectors for covertly determining the positions of hostages or hostage takers inside of an enclosed structure.

Does that sound like someone who hands out parking tickets and does the occasional drug bust?
Me neither. Nice try tho.
SWAT members are held to a higher standard. Clearly not a rookie on their first mission.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Whether or not the pet was part of the family means nothing to me. It was property in the eyes of the law. If police had hit a child, just like if they'd hit each other, then we'd be discussing it. But that is pure speculation.

Wow, I don't know who my bigger e-thug hero is now. You or hacp... both such powerful keyboard commandos, I think I just alt+shifted a little thinking about your toughness.

 

[zsdersw]

Who gives a fuck about a baby fence when a PIT BULL is on the other side.

Nothing in the video (which I now have watched) suggested it was doing anything other than barking. That's what dogs do. A tranquilizer would've been all that was needed (or justified).

Also, if you expect police to be perfect shooters then I guess I cannot argue with you. Those are your expectations. I think you've watched too many movies, though.

Police != SWAT team

 

[zsdersw]

Whether or not the pet was part of the family means nothing to me. It was property in the eyes of the law. If police had hit a child, just like if they'd hit each other, then we'd be discussing it. But that is pure speculation.

Actually, animals and pets are protected more than "property". There's restrictions against animal cruelty and abuse. That's not what was happening here, but the point is that animals/pets are more than just "property" in the eyes of the law.

 

[Narmer]

Wow, I don't know who my bigger e-thug hero is now. You or hacp... both such powerful keyboard commandos, I think I just alt+shifted a little thinking about your toughness.

If you're getting so emotional over something like this, someone like you is not qualified to be in any leadership position. It has less to do with toughness and more to do with being focused and not letting other variables get in your way.

 

[Narmer]

SWAT ≠ regular old street beat cop
SWAT -A SWAT (special weapons and tactics) team is an elite paramilitary tactical unit in American and some international law enforcement departments. They are trained to perform high-risk operations that fall outside of the abilities of regular officers. Their duties include performing hostage rescues and counter-terrorism operations, serving high risk arrest and search warrants, subduing barricaded suspects, and engaging heavily-armed criminals. A SWAT team is often equipped with specialized firearms including assault rifles, submachine guns, shotguns, carbines, riot control agents, stun grenades, and high-powered rifles for snipers. They have specialized equipment including heavy body armor, entry tools, armored vehicles, advanced night vision optics, and motion detectors for covertly determining the positions of hostages or hostage takers inside of an enclosed structure.

Does that sound like someone who hands out parking tickets and does the occasional drug bust?
Me neither. Nice try tho.
SWAT members are held to a higher standard. Clearly not a rookie on their first mission.

So you still expect them to be perfect shooters despite everything else?

 

[ch33zw1z]

So you still expect them to be perfect shooters despite everything else?

Yes. Especially when entering a premises that is unknown to them, and people's lives are at risk. Hell yes.

 

[xj0hnx]

So you still expect them to be perfect shooters despite everything else?

Yes. I am going to guess you've never had any formal training of any kind in this field. You don't make an elite team by missing your targets, or hitting the wrong ones ...period.