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[video] mall guards violently beat 14 year old shoplifter

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SandEagle said:
she was manhandled by 4 big dudes, hands covering her mouth to prevent screaming, cursed at, slammed on ground, slammed on floor. i'd file child abuse charges and sue.
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Were we watching the same video? Please provide the time stamps of these events.

MotionMan
 
SandEagle said:
she was manhandled by 4 big dudes, hands covering her mouth to prevent screaming, cursed at, slammed on ground, slammed on floor. i'd file child abuse charges and sue.
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I hope you're kidding. She wasn't "slammed." If she doesn't sit her damned self, how much more gentle could it possibly have been? Also: ground = floor. I like how you somehow multiplied it so your ONE example of "beating" sounds like more.

Do you have any idea what child abuse is? You should be ashamed for even DARING to equate it with this. I also like how you think the word "manhandled" means something negative in this context. If this is how they treated people who were not being detained against their will, it would be.

Covering her mouth and cursing is not "beating" and is perfectly normal during a detention. What planet are you from?
 
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Ok, I've had time to think, and if this little bitch didn't want to be treated like a criminal, she probably shouldn't have acted like one.
 
CZroe said:
You just called them "cops" again.
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Yes, I was being colloquial. They aren't "real" cops. So what? They're "mall cops" or "rent-a-cops" or "security guards" or whatever you want to call them.

What difference does it make?

CZroe said:
And what, EXACTLY, did they do wrong in your opinion?
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Physically manhandle her for no necessary reason whatsoever.

CZroe said:
Watch it again. She snapped on them when they were moving toward the wall. They were delicately moving toward the wall until she lunged again and required an accelerated movement to avoid being hit or releasing her.
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You must be watching a different video than the one I just watched two more times. Because when she moved towards the wall, I saw the guy right behind moving in sync with her, and in contact with her. He threw her against the wall.

And there was no reason to throw her against the wall anyway. They outnumbered her, and she was already in cuffs.

CZroe said:
I guess the only option in your mind is to let her get away and/or hurt someone.
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No, the option in my mind is to hire competent, reasonable people who know how to detain a 14-year-old girl without being physically abusive.

CZroe said:
She proved a threat to people and property and they demonstrated restraint every step of the way.
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This stuff needs to be filed in the fiction section.

She was outnumbered 5-to-1 by men larger than her and WAS ALREADY HANDCUFFED. She posed no "threat to people and property".

Krazy4Real said:
She got what she deserved.
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You'll think differently when someone you care about gets abused over an alleged crime.

It's no wonder we're living in what is increasingly a police state. The nation is full of unthinking sheep.
 
Those rentacops need tasers. Then, she wouldn't have been able to continue resisting which ultimately led to her being shoved into the wall. Her fault. If you're handcuffed and don't struggle to get away, stuff like that doesn't happen.

Dear Nieman Marcus - I hope you don't settle out of court & instead choose to have a jury trial. If I were on the jury, she would not win.
 
So I watched the video, again, for the third time:

She is on the ground and cuffed, yet continues to resist, so they continue to subdue her.

She is lifted to her feet, and she tries to pull away from the guard holding her (in the direction of the wall, BTW), and the second guard roughly pins her against the wall and yells at her.

She then tries to pull away, AGAIN, (check out 1:09 of the longer video) and they take her to the ground again, where she continues to resist.


They subdued her, when they got the upper hand, they tried to move her, then she would resist again, so they had to subdue her again (twice).

Which part did I get wrong.

MotionMan
 
MotionMan said:
So I watched the video, again, for the third time:

She is on the ground and cuffed, yet continues to resist, so they continue to subdue her.

She is lifted to her feet, and she tries to pull away from the guard holding her (in the direction of the wall, BTW), and the second guard roughly pins her against the wall and yells at her.

She then tries to pull away, AGAIN, (check out 1:09 of the longer video) and they take her to the ground again, where she continues to resist.


They subdued her, when they got the upper hand, they tried to move her, then she would resist again, so they had to subdue her again (twice).

Which part did I get wrong.

MotionMan
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That's what I saw as well. I really hate when companies settle crap like this out of court - it sends a message to lowlife criminals to just keep stealing - if they're lucky, they'll get a payday.
 
DrPizza said:
I really hate when companies settle crap like this out of court...
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Me too. A nice multi-million-dollar judgment sends a better message to hire people who are actually competent for security.

A short visit to jail for the executive in charge would also be a nice touch.
 
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CharlesKozierok said:
Yes, I was being colloquial. They aren't "real" cops. So what? They're "mall cops" or "rent-a-cops" or "security guards" or whatever you want to call them.

What difference does it make?



Physically manhandle her for no necessary reason whatsoever.



You must be watching a different video than the one I just watched two more times. Because when she moved towards the wall, I saw the guy right behind moving in sync with her, and in contact with her. He threw her against the wall.

And there was no reason to throw her against the wall anyway. They outnumbered her, and she was already in cuffs.



No, the option in my mind is to hire competent, reasonable people who know how to detain a 14-year-old girl without being physically abusive.



This stuff needs to be filed in the fiction section.

She was outnumbered 5-to-1 by men larger than her and WAS ALREADY HANDCUFFED. She posed no "threat to people and property".



You'll think differently when someone you care about gets abused over an alleged crime.

It's no wonder we're living in what is increasingly a police state. The nation is full of unthinking sheep.
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Wow. Delusional much?
 
"I'M A FUCKING CHILD!"

Lulz, bet she's not a "child" when she's out sucking dick and snorting coke.
And she damn sure wasnt no midget either. Way bigger than me and probably stronger. Of course, I still have no sympathy for a handful of large guards who swarm her. I hope they do jail time but thats not likely.

People need to act as if theres a camera on them at all times when they leave the house. Cuz its probably true.
 
If I am ever subjected to a violent beating, I hope it is like this 'violent beating'.

KT
 
herrjimbo said:
4? Honestly, get a life. They were rent a cops for God's sake.
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And what, exactly, does that have to do with the price of elephant dung in Antarctica?

Your response that they were "rent a cops" is a red herring. They have the authority to subdue someone suspected of theft and that is all they did here. If the stupid repeat-offending wench had simply plopped her thieving ass down and stayed where she was put they wouldn't have had to subdue her again, and again. It's not as if they kicked her, punched her, and clubbed her repeatedly. Rodney King she ain't. She's just a loud-mouthed, out-of-control teenage delinquent; nothing more, nothing less.
 
herrjimbo said:
I don't like shopifters.

But for, how many , 4? burly assclowns can't handle the situation without, and nobody mentions this, throw her into a brick wall while handcuffed. I think it went a little too far.

I hope she sues the hell out of everone involved.
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until you are in a real live situation where you are trying to subdue a person who does not want to be stfu. those guys could have beat her sensless to get her to comply but they did not and can not. all they did was hold her down. i saw no beating, i saw no kneeing, i saw no head slamming. they detained her nothing more.

no basis for a lawsuit at all.
 
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