video games undermining youth potential

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Video games help build problem solving capability, spacial thinking, and hand-eye coordination as well.

I don't think they develop hand-eye coordination in the conventional sense since they don't develop any kind of physical ability (strength, speed, endurance...). I'd bet puzzles and legos do a better job at building spacial thinking, though they might not be as entertaining for kids.

What's important is not to make blanket statements. What game may teach one kid to build those things may teach someone else absolutely nothing. In my case, I learned a lot from games that has come in handy. Things that I may have learned without video games, yes. But the way I learned them was learning them through playing specific games.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: kt
Stop blaming video games for your anti-social behaviours.

i don't have any anti-social behaviour. i have a hot g/f, i go to the bars every weekend w/ my friends. i just came back from an amazing spring break trup in jamaica w/ about 25 of my friends from school. i enjoy my life. that still doesn't prohibit me from seeing the potentially harmful effects of video games.


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Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

 

[l3ored]

i dont recall voting for you as fun nazi....

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: SampSon
I have no intentions of "knock down your opinion", it's your opinion, there is no right and wrong.....

well, the comment about my age was basically just to point out that i'm not a parent, nor am i a member of any "parenting committee." i'm in no way stating that i'm "older and see that all the time you wasted with video games." i'm still very much a kid, and i hope to be one for a long time.

as for the rest of your post, i agree w/ some and disagree w/ others. card playing = gambling and cigar smoking ?!?!?

and as for "being in university makes you think too much," i imagine you're thinking about when you were back in college. don't assume everyone is like you. my problem right now is that i'm not thinking enough.

edit: $100 says someone takes that last sentence and has some fun w/ it.


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[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: Mill
Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

ah, yes. because you know me so well.

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[Mill]

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

ah, yes. because you know me so well.

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I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: Mill
I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

here's one more for you:

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[Mill]

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

here's one more for you:

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A stunning rebuttal from an obviously brilliant mind. I'm appalled that I was so thoroughly banished with just a casual flick or your mouse. Kudos to you! You're an idol among us all.

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: Mill
A stunning rebuttal from an obviously brilliant mind. I'm appalled that I was so thoroughly banished with just a casual flick or your mouse. Kudos to you! You're an idol among us all.

i can do this all day.

well, at least till 10.


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[abracadabra1]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

ah, yes. because you know me so well.

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I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

Wtf is pretentious about his post? I think we've all played enough games to know that they're a waste of time. Fun? Sure. Productive? Not a chance in hell.

 

[abracadabra1]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

here's one more for you:

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A stunning rebuttal from an obviously brilliant mind. I'm appalled that I was so thoroughly banished with just a casual flick or your mouse. Kudos to you! You're an idol among us all.

I thought you didn't know the difference between him and cow's ass or a hole in the ground? Now you feel the need to pass judgement??

You're a hipocrite...keep it up tiger, it's an excellent quality :disgust:

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

ah, yes. because you know me so well.

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I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

Wtf is pretentious about his post? I think we've all played enough games to know that they're a waste of time. Fun? Sure. Productive? Not a chance in hell.

Umm... the whole "I'm a great person with an uber hot woman and 50 inch dick" part was a BIT pretentious.

 

[Tab]

Lan parties are a social event? What the fsck is wrong with you? I saw we ban all ricer and muscle cars! They serve no purpose and are a waste of money.

 

[abracadabra1]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

ah, yes. because you know me so well.

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I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

Wtf is pretentious about his post? I think we've all played enough games to know that they're a waste of time. Fun? Sure. Productive? Not a chance in hell.

Umm... the whole "I'm a great person with an uber hot woman and 50 inch dick" part was a BIT pretentious.

All he said was that he has a hot g/f and goes to bars on weekend w/ friends and just got back from jamaica...what if it's true and he's just stating the facts?

A bit pretentious, maybe...but not enough do dishevel your panties

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

ah, yes. because you know me so well.

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I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

Wtf is pretentious about his post? I think we've all played enough games to know that they're a waste of time. Fun? Sure. Productive? Not a chance in hell.

Umm... the whole "I'm a great person with an uber hot woman and 50 inch dick" part was a BIT pretentious.

All he said was that he has a hot g/f and goes to bars on weekend w/ friends and just got back from jamaica...what if it's true and he's just stating the facts?

A bit pretentious, maybe...but not enough do dishevel your panties

I don't wear panties anymore. Regardless, are you his keeper or something?

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

ah, yes. because you know me so well.

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I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

Wtf is pretentious about his post? I think we've all played enough games to know that they're a waste of time. Fun? Sure. Productive? Not a chance in hell.

Umm... the whole "I'm a great person with an uber hot woman and 50 inch dick" part was a BIT pretentious.

Or it could be true and you're just blowing it out your ass again. One or the other. But, as you said, you don't know.

 

[Acanthus]

If video games didnt exsist, i would've killed many, many people by now. :disgust:

 

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: SampSon
I have no intentions of "knock down your opinion", it's your opinion, there is no right and wrong.....

well, the comment about my age was basically just to point out that i'm not a parent, nor am i a member of any "parenting committee." i'm in no way stating that i'm "older and see that all the time you wasted with video games." i'm still very much a kid, and i hope to be one for a long time.

as for the rest of your post, i agree w/ some and disagree w/ others. card playing = gambling and cigar smoking ?!?!?

and as for "being in university makes you think too much," i imagine you're thinking about when you were back in college. don't assume everyone is like you. my problem right now is that i'm not thinking enough.

edit: $100 says someone takes that last sentence and has some fun w/ it.


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Damnit, I was almost done with my post and my computer crashed. So I'll try to reconstruct it.

Card playing usually involves gambling, gambling is more detrimental than any video game.

If you arn't thinking enough, mabey you should focus more on your brain than your brawn. Doesn't going out to a bar every weekend and being a total social slut get boring to you after a while? How many years of your college life will be consumed with such monotonous predictable college life activities?
I personally was very heavy into video games and sports. So I got a lot of exercise and time outdoors, unlike many of the fat gluttonous children who stay inside all day and play video games. Is it a generation gap thing? I think it is.

I would say that going out to a bar and drinking until you can't walk is much less productive than any video game out there. Not to say it isn't fun and something I havn't done for endless hours, but it's not very productive nor does it increase the potential for anything except alcoholism and an empty wallet.

I have a little brother at home. Whenever I come home to visit, I always see him and a group of 3-7 friends in his room playing video games, horseing around and doing what young teen boys do. Typically that's when he plays the games, when a group of friends are over to play with him. So I don't see how these actions are hindering him from social development or character building.

So back to the original..

i move to ban all forms of electronic interactive entertainment because they offer no benefit to society other than the economic benefit to the manufacturers.

They benefit the user with entertainment value. Just like anything else that has no measureable level of "intellectual development".
Let's ban bodybuilding and bar hopping, they provide no intellectual development. Nor does racing cars, or bikes, or a million other activities we partake in daily.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
If video games didnt exsist, i would've killed many, many people by now. :disgust:

hahaha :beer::beer:

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

ah, yes. because you know me so well.

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I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

Wtf is pretentious about his post? I think we've all played enough games to know that they're a waste of time. Fun? Sure. Productive? Not a chance in hell.

Umm... the whole "I'm a great person with an uber hot woman and 50 inch dick" part was a BIT pretentious.

Or it could be true and you're just blowing it out your ass again. One or the other. But, as you said, you don't know.

Not to say I don't love you, but I take what people say on the internet and rarely believe any of it. Besides, his hot might be nasty to rest of us.

 

[abracadabra1]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: abracadabra1

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Mill
Sure you do. And I'm a lesbian too.

ah, yes. because you know me so well.

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I know enough to know that I don't give two sh!ts about you or your pretentious self. Besides you actually think 1/2 of what is said on AT is true? I don't know you from a cow's ass or a hole in the ground.

Wtf is pretentious about his post? I think we've all played enough games to know that they're a waste of time. Fun? Sure. Productive? Not a chance in hell.

Umm... the whole "I'm a great person with an uber hot woman and 50 inch dick" part was a BIT pretentious.

All he said was that he has a hot g/f and goes to bars on weekend w/ friends and just got back from jamaica...what if it's true and he's just stating the facts?

A bit pretentious, maybe...but not enough do dishevel your panties

I don't wear panties anymore. Regardless, are you his keeper or something?

No...and this is useless. Good day to you, sir.

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Damnit, I was almost done with my post and my computer crashed. So I'll try to reconstruct it...

you like making assumptions (especially about me) and you're also not considering my entire argument.

Card playing usually involves gambling, gambling is more detrimental than any video game.

huge huge assumption. i hardly ever gamble when i play cards, and the few time i do, there's a $10 limit. it sounds as if you equate "card playing" with poker. there are thousands of other card games people play, and to be honest the card games i play the most are uno, or involve drinking. also, let's not limit the discussion to card games. i'm referring to ANY form of entertainment that takes place in a social setting, i.e. not a single person, a t.v., and his xbox. if you bring out madden during a party, then it's all good - but 3 hour solo sessions w/ everquest are an issue.


Doesn't going out to a bar every weekend and being a total social slut get boring to you after a while? How many years of your college life will be consumed with such monotonous predictable college life activities... I would say that going out to a bar and drinking until you can't walk is much less productive than any video game out there.

more assumptions. i drink almost every weekend, but i do so in moderation. i go to bars because i love to dance. it's also one of the few things to do around here on the weekends. i don't go to bars to get plastered - i can do that from home if i wanted to. i go to bars to hang out w/ my friends and see people outside of an academic setting. and no, it never gets boring. people are dynamic, the weekends never get boring or predictable. if that was the case, i'd find something else to do.


They benefit the user with entertainment value. Just like anything else that has no measureable level of "intellectual development". Let's ban bodybuilding and bar hopping, they provide no intellectual development. Nor does racing cars, or bikes...

one huge difference: body building benefits one's health and longevity, bar hopping is done within a social setting, and the hobbies you mentioned involve personal development and character building. they share little (arguably, nothing) with video games.


So I got a lot of exercise and time outdoors, unlike many of the fat gluttonous children who stay inside all day and play video games...

my point exactly.


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[WhiteWonder]

I still don't see it, I have played games for as long as I can remember, and I am not a fat, errrr, person.

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: WhiteWonder
I still don't see it, I have played games for as long as I can remember, and I am not a fat, errrr, person.

it's not about being fat. it's about taking the time you spent playing video games and doing something productive. it may have been exercise, or studying, or a hobby, or even hanging out w/ your friends. i'm not limiting the argument to just one's health or intellectual ability.


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[Rent]

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: WhiteWonder
I still don't see it, I have played games for as long as I can remember, and I am not a fat, errrr, person.

it's not about being fat. it's about taking the time you spent playing video games and doing something productive. it may have been exercise, or studying, or a hobby, or even hanging out w/ your friends. i'm not limiting the argument to just one's health or intellectual ability.


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Productivity is the key word there. Its all relative.

Just because you think that playing video games is a waste of time doesn't mean its true.

I think the bigger problem is parents that let their kids sit around for 15 hours a day playing video-games.

FYI, I play a ton of games, but I'm not fat or antisocial. And if you think bar hopping on the weekends builds social interactivity, heh, wake up. HEY EVERYONE LETS GET SMASHED CAUSE IT FEELS GOOD!