Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shoots man... More to come.

[conjur]

We'll just settle with the Texas statute:

§ 36.05. TAMPERING WITH WITNESS. (a) A person commits
an offense if, with intent to influence the witness, he offers,
confers, or agrees to confer any benefit on a witness or prospective
witness in an official proceeding or coerces a witness or
prospective witness in an official proceeding:
(1) to testify falsely;
(2) to withhold any testimony, information, document,
or thing;
(3) to elude legal process summoning him to testify or
supply evidence;
(4) to absent himself from an official proceeding to
which he has been legally summoned; or
(5) to abstain from, discontinue, or delay the
prosecution of another.
(b) A witness or prospective witness in an official
proceeding commits an offense if he knowingly solicits, accepts, or
agrees to accept any benefit on the representation or understanding
that he will do any of the things specified in Subsection (a).
(c) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(5)
that the benefit received was:
(1) reasonable restitution for damages suffered by the
complaining witness as a result of the offense; and
(2) a result of an agreement negotiated with the
assistance or acquiescence of an attorney for the state who
represented the state in the case.
(d) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: conjur
We'll just settle with the Texas statute:

§ 36.05. TAMPERING WITH WITNESS. (a) A person commits
an offense if, with intent to influence the witness, he offers,
confers, or agrees to confer any benefit on a witness or prospective
witness in an official proceeding or coerces a witness or
prospective witness in an official proceeding:
(1) to testify falsely;
(2) to withhold any testimony, information, document,
or thing;
(3) to elude legal process summoning him to testify or
supply evidence;
(4) to absent himself from an official proceeding to
which he has been legally summoned; or
(5) to abstain from, discontinue, or delay the
prosecution of another.
(b) A witness or prospective witness in an official
proceeding commits an offense if he knowingly solicits, accepts, or
agrees to accept any benefit on the representation or understanding
that he will do any of the things specified in Subsection (a).
(c) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(5)
that the benefit received was:
(1) reasonable restitution for damages suffered by the
complaining witness as a result of the offense; and
(2) a result of an agreement negotiated with the
assistance or acquiescence of an attorney for the state who
represented the state in the case.
(d) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.

Prove it, I mean where is the prove to your claim he committed a felony.

 

[arsbanned]

Well, I don't think he's arguing the Republicans aren't thorough criminals. We probably can't prove that Cheney was drunk and committed a felony. They
were careful, they kept law enforcement away until he has sobered up, they had many minds working on the solution for a full day. Of course we can't prove it.
Unless someone on their crew turns. That could be interesting.

 

[1EZduzit]

SH=t, there all on the Haliburton payroll there, aren't they?

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: eits
dude, you know what i just realized?

who the fvck can't remember if they had one or two beers? "a beer or two"?? i think everyone knows if they've only had one beer or more than one beer.

i call cheney shens on that shyt.

I found this guy's quote about this on some site:

Heck you guys jes don?t know Texan. Down here when we say beer, it means anything from one to one dozen beers. Ever see those videos of police chases on TV? When they pull the drunk driver over he always admits to having a ?beer?.

It?s sort of a generalization, if you only drank Bud, you just had ?A Beer?, if you drank Bud and Coors, you had a couple of beers. Understand?

 

[myusername]

I do notice that the folks *cough*tscenter*cough* at the beginning of this thread who were making all the commotion about Whittington "sneaking up" on Dick have been awfully quiet in the past few days..

Of course, we "all" knew something was amiss with the description of the event, but no one else has yet pointed out - "Right" from Fox news folks, fair and balanced , we have this:

Cheney said that he, Whittington and one other person separated from the 10-person hunting party to pursue a covey of quail. All three fired their shotguns, but Whittington could not immediately find his bird. He walked away from Cheney and the other hunter to look for it.

Cheney then heard quail moving to his right.

"I turned and shot at the bird, and at that second, saw Harry standing there. Didn't know he was there," Cheney said. "I saw him fall, basically. It had happened so fast."

Cheney didn't turn and shoot at the bird (which even at that, would deny the claims about "tracking" the bird with the barrel) ...

..he turned and blindly shot at a sound.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Well, I don't think he's arguing the Republicans aren't thorough criminals. We probably can't prove that Cheney was drunk and committed a felony. They
were careful, they kept law enforcement away until he has sobered up, they had many minds working on the solution for a full day. Of course we can't prove it.
Unless someone on their crew turns. That could be interesting.

The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy holds all the cards and knows where all the bodies are buried, because they buried them.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: dimensionOFdissension

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: thawolfman
zomg breaking news

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11312757/

Discuss!

Edit: Well that's lame

so how come the guy had a heart attack? why did the docs leave the pellet in his chest?

and it's that easy to survive a shotgun blast?!?!

it was buckshot from 30 yards away

birdshot you mean eh?

oops yeah, sorry. i meant "birdshot" but typed "buckshot." i guess it's because i'm so used to typing "-uck" so much...

 

[dimensionOFdissension]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: dimensionOFdissension

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: thawolfman
zomg breaking news

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11312757/

Discuss!

Edit: Well that's lame

so how come the guy had a heart attack? why did the docs leave the pellet in his chest?

and it's that easy to survive a shotgun blast?!?!

it was buckshot from 30 yards away

birdshot you mean eh?

oops yeah, sorry. i meant "birdshot" but typed "buckshot." i guess it's because i'm so used to typing "-uck" so much...

heh I thought maybe I had read it wrong at first... surviving a buckshot round would certainly be a far more impressive feat 😀

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: conjur
I doubt it was 30 yards away.


And, Cheney has been caught in a LIE!!


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c53/RPGamerd00d/KatharineArmstrongLied.jpg (notice the passage circled in red)

"Katharine Armstrong said she saw Cheney's security detail running toward the scene. "The first thing that crossed my mind was he had a heart problem," she told The Associated Press."

HOWEVER, on FAUX, Cheney told Brit:

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I said Karl has hunted at the Armstrong, as
well, and we're both good friends of the Armstrongs and of Katherine
Armstrong. And Katherine suggested, and I agreed, that she would go
make the announcement, that is that she'd put the story out. And I
thought that made good sense for several reasons. First of all, she was
an eye-witness. She'd seen the whole thing.

If her 1st thought was that Dick had a heart attack, how could she be an eye-witness???


Dick, Dick, Dick, Dick. You really shouldn't like and commit felonies like that. You could get brought up on felony charges...well...if you weren't the Dick.

the incident report said it was about 30 yards

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney2.html

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: eits
dude, you know what i just realized?

who the fvck can't remember if they had one or two beers? "a beer or two"?? i think everyone knows if they've only had one beer or more than one beer.

i call cheney shens on that shyt.

I found this guy's quote about this on some site:

Heck you guys jes don?t know Texan. Down here when we say beer, it means anything from one to one dozen beers. Ever see those videos of police chases on TV? When they pull the drunk driver over he always admits to having a ?beer?.

It?s sort of a generalization, if you only drank Bud, you just had ?A Beer?, if you drank Bud and Coors, you had a couple of beers. Understand?

hahaha i get it, now 🙂 thanks

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: myusername
I do notice that the folks *cough*tscenter*cough* at the beginning of this thread who were making all the commotion about Whittington "sneaking up" on Dick have been awfully quiet in the past few days..

Of course, we "all" knew something was amiss with the description of the event, but no one else has yet pointed out - "Right" from Fox news folks, fair and balanced , we have this:

Cheney said that he, Whittington and one other person separated from the 10-person hunting party to pursue a covey of quail. All three fired their shotguns, but Whittington could not immediately find his bird. He walked away from Cheney and the other hunter to look for it.

Cheney then heard quail moving to his right.

"I turned and shot at the bird, and at that second, saw Harry standing there. Didn't know he was there," Cheney said. "I saw him fall, basically. It had happened so fast."

Cheney didn't turn and shoot at the bird (which even at that, would deny the claims about "tracking" the bird with the barrel) ...

..he turned and blindly shot at a sound.

seriously.

but not only that... how do you turn and shoot without seeing someone standing there? how do you NOT know he's there? when you're with someone, do they pull a ninja and steal away 30 yards without making a sound or any kind of indication that they are going to pick up a kill?

what the hell kind of person just randomly walks away without making a sound? no one. that's some monty python shyt or something... do you honestly expect a texan judge who enjoys hunting not to say a damn word or anything and walk off to a kill? do you not expect him to exclaim in joy about the kill?

if anything, the event happened like this:

"wow! that's a beautiful quail, dick! you really got a nice one. this is going right up on the mantle. great sh-*BANG!*"

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

Originally posted by: conjur
We'll just settle with the Texas statute:

§ 36.05. TAMPERING WITH WITNESS. (a) A person commits
an offense if, with intent to influence the witness, he offers,
confers, or agrees to confer any benefit on a witness or prospective
witness in an official proceeding or coerces a witness or
prospective witness in an official proceeding:
(1) to testify falsely;
(2) to withhold any testimony, information, document,
or thing;
(3) to elude legal process summoning him to testify or
supply evidence;
(4) to absent himself from an official proceeding to
which he has been legally summoned; or
(5) to abstain from, discontinue, or delay the
prosecution of another.
(b) A witness or prospective witness in an official
proceeding commits an offense if he knowingly solicits, accepts, or
agrees to accept any benefit on the representation or understanding
that he will do any of the things specified in Subsection (a).
(c) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(5)
that the benefit received was:
(1) reasonable restitution for damages suffered by the
complaining witness as a result of the offense; and
(2) a result of an agreement negotiated with the
assistance or acquiescence of an attorney for the state who
represented the state in the case.
(d) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.

Prove it, I mean where is the prove to your claim he committed a felony.

See my post above of Armstrong's statement. She was 100 yards away and didn't see it. She explained as if she saw Whittington get shot but yet another statement of hers says her first thought was that Cheney had a heart problem (or something like that)

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

Originally posted by: conjur
We'll just settle with the Texas statute:

§ 36.05. TAMPERING WITH WITNESS. (a) A person commits
an offense if, with intent to influence the witness, he offers,
confers, or agrees to confer any benefit on a witness or prospective
witness in an official proceeding or coerces a witness or
prospective witness in an official proceeding:
(1) to testify falsely;
(2) to withhold any testimony, information, document,
or thing;
(3) to elude legal process summoning him to testify or
supply evidence;
(4) to absent himself from an official proceeding to
which he has been legally summoned; or
(5) to abstain from, discontinue, or delay the
prosecution of another.
(b) A witness or prospective witness in an official
proceeding commits an offense if he knowingly solicits, accepts, or
agrees to accept any benefit on the representation or understanding
that he will do any of the things specified in Subsection (a).
(c) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(5)
that the benefit received was:
(1) reasonable restitution for damages suffered by the
complaining witness as a result of the offense; and
(2) a result of an agreement negotiated with the
assistance or acquiescence of an attorney for the state who
represented the state in the case.
(d) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.

Prove it, I mean where is the prove to your claim he committed a felony.

See my post above of Armstrong's statement. She was 100 yards away and didn't see it. She explained as if she saw Whittington get shot but yet another statement of hers says her first thought was that Cheney had a heart problem (or something like that)

That is your prove? How the hell does that prove the felony charge that you have picked TAMPERING WITH WITNESS.

Get real.

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

Originally posted by: conjur
We'll just settle with the Texas statute:

§ 36.05. TAMPERING WITH WITNESS. (a) A person commits
an offense if, with intent to influence the witness, he offers,
confers, or agrees to confer any benefit on a witness or prospective
witness in an official proceeding or coerces a witness or
prospective witness in an official proceeding:
(1) to testify falsely;
(2) to withhold any testimony, information, document,
or thing;
(3) to elude legal process summoning him to testify or
supply evidence;
(4) to absent himself from an official proceeding to
which he has been legally summoned; or
(5) to abstain from, discontinue, or delay the
prosecution of another.
(b) A witness or prospective witness in an official
proceeding commits an offense if he knowingly solicits, accepts, or
agrees to accept any benefit on the representation or understanding
that he will do any of the things specified in Subsection (a).
(c) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(5)
that the benefit received was:
(1) reasonable restitution for damages suffered by the
complaining witness as a result of the offense; and
(2) a result of an agreement negotiated with the
assistance or acquiescence of an attorney for the state who
represented the state in the case.
(d) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.

Prove it, I mean where is the prove to your claim he committed a felony.

See my post above of Armstrong's statement. She was 100 yards away and didn't see it. She explained as if she saw Whittington get shot but yet another statement of hers says her first thought was that Cheney had a heart problem (or something like that)

Eh, I wouldn't get too worked up on this part, I think you are pulling at straws.

 

[morkinva]

It should be enough to raise your suspicions, that is, of course, if you had a brain.

 

[JEDI]

ok.. 30 yards w/birdshot.. that explains how the guy survived.

now explain the day AFTER he's in the hospital he has a heart attack because the bird shot moved into his heart.

WTF is the birdshot still doing in his chest a day after he's been brught into the hospital?! why wasnt it removed?!

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: morkinva
It should be enough to raise your suspicions, that is, of course, if you had a brain.

hehe agreed

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: JEDI
ok.. 30 yards w/birdshot.. that explains how the guy survived.

now explain the day AFTER he's in the hospital he has a heart attack because the bird shot moved into his heart.

WTF is the birdshot still doing in his chest a day after he's been brught into the hospital?! why wasnt it removed?!

it was too deep and the doctors thought it'd better if they just left it. they figured they'd cause more damage digging it out rather than leaving it it. it'd be just a benign piece of metal. no big deal... or so they thought.

 

[Bitek]

From what I heard, due to the small size of the pellets and the age of the victim, it would be too dangerous to attempt open-chest exploratory surgury on the man. The pellets can easily be seen on xrays, but to actually open up the chest and find them would likely cause more damage thanif they left the shot in there.

 

[Bitek]

Also, the heart attack was caused my the heart muscle being irriatated by the pellets, something like a cramp where the lower ventricles started beating irregularly. Scar tissue should surround the pellet and immobilze it in the body.

 

[eits]

"the lower ventricles"?

as opposed to the upper ventricles 😉

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Hafen
From what I heard, due to the small size of the pellets and the age of the victim, it would be too dangerous to attempt open-chest exploratory surgury on the man. The pellets can easily be seen on xrays, but to actually open up the chest and find them would likely cause more damage thanif they left the shot in there.

in lost, he just used his fingers to dig out the bullet. just follow the entry wound. the pellet should be big enuf for long tweezers to pull out. 😛

 

[lyssword]

lol, in lost that guy got shot in the shoulder, where no major organs lie, just muscle tissue. This guy on the other hand, got shot into the chest where there are rib bones, under that is heart, stomach and lungs, big veins are all close together.

 

[blahblah99]

Now if he accidentally shot Bush, you'll see:

Dick accidentally shoots President in the Face!