Very scary time for young men in America

[bbhaag]

Yup. And in her own statement she contradicts herself and any rational person reading it should understand that it was consensual the way she wrote it and at the very least ask her more questions.

It's a sad world when a girl will break a boy just because she can.

 

[Darwin333]

It's a sad world when a girl will break a boy just because she can.

Have you had much interaction with the female human species?

 

[bbhaag]

Have you had much interaction with the female human species?

Yes I have. Most likely more than most why do you ask?

 

[Darwin333]

Yes I have. Most likely more than most why do you ask?

Because, in general:

 

[mikeymikec]

"Very scary time for young men in America", the OP claims.

This page suggests that at absolutely worst, the false rape allegation stat is 10%:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape

Which means for every one of these people who gets falsely accused, there's at least nine (most likely women) who actually did get raped, and that's setting aside the fact that not all rapes get reported. And yet it is "a very scary time for men in America".

Jesus. You guys need to pull your heads out of your asses.

 

[bbhaag]

Hey Mike I think everyone understands your first point but I'm pretty sure everyone was talking about this specific case. The one the OP linked to did you read all of it?
Someone was falsely accused and ended up spending $12,000 to try and clear their name.

Also there is no need to get verbally abusive Mike. Telling people to pull their heads out of their asses is offensive and not really necessary. This isn't P&N Mike if you want to talk like that I suggest you take it there and keep it there. OT Discussion Club is not the place for verbally offensive language like you used.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Hey Mike I think everyone understands your first point but I'm pretty sure everyone was talking about this specific case. You know the one the OP linked to did you read it?
The one were someone was falsely accused and ended up spending $12,000 to try and clear their name.
Also there is no need to get verbally abusive Mike. Telling people to pull their heads out of their asses is offensive and not really necessary. This isn't P&N Mike if you want to talk like that I suggest you take it there and keep it there.

Signed, a snowflake.

 

[bbhaag]

Oh look here comes the cavalry with their low brow insults and cheap one liners.
Here boy come here. That's right boy you said the right thing! Good boy you wanna treat?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Oh look here comes the cavalry with their low brow insults and cheap one liners.

Oh look, here's the conservative who wants others to be PC. Gee whiz, shocking. You don't get to have it your way, this ain't BK.

In case you didn't catch on to the irony of your reply, I just used conservatives rebuttles in my reply back to you. Hope you're enjoying the non PC environment. Suck it up, buttercup! (Do you see it now?)

 

[bbhaag]

That's right boy. Come here boy, good boy. You get your treat boy. Good job I'm so proud of you! You listened so well and followed the line so well.

 

[ch33zw1z]

That's right boy. Come here boy, good boy. You get your treat boy. Good job I'm so proud of you! You listened so well and followed the line so well.

LoL, whatever. You voted for it. Drink it in. I can see you don't have an actual reply to this turn of events. Who knew? Typical do-as-i-say-not-as-i-do conservative.

 

[bbhaag]

Heel boy heel. You want another treat boy? Sure you do now heel. Good job boy. Now take your P&N crap back to that cesspool.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Heel boy heel. You want another treat boy? Sure you do now heel. Good job boy. Now take your P&N crap back to that cesspool.

Pathetic response, as expected from an easily offended snowflake professional projectionist

 

[bbhaag]

No more treats for you! Now go! Take your bias and closed mindedness back to P&N where it belongs. Now shoo before I have to get the broom and chase you out.

 

[ch33zw1z]

No more treats for you! Now go! Take your bias and closed mindedness back to P&N where it belongs. Now shoo before I have to get the broom and chase you out.

Haha, what a maroon. You should probably just take the advice and remove your head from your ass.

 

[bbhaag]

Now that is not a very nice name to call someone you hardly know. Your advice is in poor taste as well.It is apparent from all your posts that someone did not teach you proper manners as a young pup.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Now that is not a very nice name to call someone you hardly know. Your advice is in poor taste as well.It is apparent from all your posts that someone did not teach you proper manners as a young pup.

Oh noes, poor taste! *Gasp*. I was raised by steadfast christian conservatives. My hats off to you for the accurate portrayal of conservatives in this country. Keep up the good work, snowflake!

 

[Jeeebus]

"Very scary time for young men in America", the OP claims.

This page suggests that at absolutely worst, the false rape allegation stat is 10%:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape

Which means for every one of these people who gets falsely accused, there's at least nine (most likely women) who actually did get raped, and that's setting aside the fact that not all rapes get reported. And yet it is "a very scary time for men in America".

Jesus. You guys need to pull your heads out of your asses.

Except you're forgetting that there's a presumption of innocence in this country and that most sexual assault cases boil down to he said/she said credibility determinations. There's not a dead body, stolen TV, or other evidence substantiating the alleged crime. So yes, if "the false rape allegation stat is 10%," that is a huge problem for the criminal justice system. We adhere to Blackstone's Formulation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone's_formulation) that it is better to let 10 (or 100 when Ben Franklin said it) guilty men go free than one innocent man suffer.

The system does not work if someone can be convicted on accusation alone. Worse still is the fact that a 10% false accusation rate eviscerates the credibility of the 90% that are telling the truth. Given that sexual assault is one of the hardest crimes to prove, the notion that anyone would/could make up the allegations makes it infinitely harder for those who are actual victims.

 

[mikeymikec]

Hey Mike I think everyone understands your first point but I'm pretty sure everyone was talking about this specific case. The one the OP linked to did you read all of it?
Someone was falsely accused and ended up spending $12,000 to try and clear their name.

Also there is no need to get verbally abusive Mike. Telling people to pull their heads out of their asses is offensive and not really necessary. This isn't P&N Mike if you want to talk like that I suggest you take it there and keep it there. OT Discussion Club is not the place for verbally offensive language like you used.

The topic was political right from the start. Go and re-read the OP.

Also, if it was just about this particular case, there was no need for that thread title, was there.

 

[bbhaag]

Oh noes, poor taste! *Gasp*. I was raised by steadfast christian conservatives. My hats off to you for the accurate portrayal of conservatives in this country. Keep up the good work, snowflake!

When they go low we go high no matter how difficult it can be. When someone is cruel or acts like a bully, I won't stoop to YOUR level.
YOU NEED TO STOP ch33zw1z. STOP calling me names because I don't see the world how you do.

 

[ch33zw1z]

When they go low we go high no matter how difficult it can be. When someone is cruel or acts like a bully, I won't stoop to YOUR level.
YOU NEED TO STOP ch33zw1z. STOP calling me names because I don't see the world how you do.

LoL, Perfect reply.

 

[mikeymikec]

Except you're forgetting that there's a presumption of innocence in this country and that most sexual assault cases boil down to he said/she said credibility determinations. There's not a dead body, stolen TV, or other evidence substantiating the alleged crime. So yes, if "the false rape allegation stat is 10%," that is a huge problem for the criminal justice system. We adhere to Blackstone's Formulation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone's_formulation) that it is better to let 10 (or 100 when Ben Franklin said it) guilty men go free than one innocent man suffer.

Allegation != conviction.

The system does not work if someone can be convicted on accusation alone.

Do you have any evidence that this is occuring at any significant rate?

Worse still is the fact that a 10% false accusation rate eviscerates the credibility of the 90% that are telling the truth.

Only in your opinion. I assume if someone makes a rape allegation, they're telling the truth. This assumption of course has no bearing on what happens in a court of law.

This is all beside my point of course, which was that the evidence is stacked massively to the effect that rape goes on a heck of a lot more often than false rape allegations, targets women the vast majority of the time, and always has done, yet the OP and others are pearl-clutching about how "it's a scary time to be a man in America".

 

[Jeeebus]

Only in your opinion. I assume if someone makes a rape allegation, they're telling the truth. This assumption of course has no bearing on what happens in a court of law.

Your assumption absolutely has a bearing on what happens in a court of law. Assuming you tell the truth when asked in voir dire, that assumption would instantly disqualify you from serving on a jury. As I stated, our judicial system is built on the presumption of innocence. A presumption of guilt or automatic belief that an alleged victim, police officer, nun, old person, etc. is telling the truth has no place in our judicial system.

 

[mikeymikec]

Your assumption absolutely has a bearing on what happens in a court of law. Assuming you tell the truth when asked in voir dire, that assumption would instantly disqualify you from serving on a jury. As I stated, our judicial system is built on the presumption of innocence. A presumption of guilt or automatic belief that an alleged victim, police officer, nun, old person, etc. is telling the truth has no place in our judicial system.

Jesus, it's diversions all the way down with you isn't it. Do you want to actually engage with my original point?

 

[highland145]

Only in your opinion. I assume if someone makes a rape allegation, they're telling the truth. This assumption of course has no bearing on what happens in a court of law.

I don't see how you can do that without some evidence. That's like believing a die hard flat earther....imo.