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Pens1566

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A disguised P-8 in civil markings seems like an excellent way to get everybody with twitchy trigger fingers to start downing 737s full of civilians. By that I mean if you have this capability you do not use it unless in dire circumstances.

It would track with all the commercial aviation warnings and traffic being interrupted/diverted from the southern Caribbean though.

Wouldn't want a Southwest 737 to Aruba being mistaken for Warcrimes-1.
 
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K1052

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How does no one say anything to them? And then no only do they still go through with it but the people who made it happen still go through with it, from the painters to the pilots?

I expect this was an existing asset that is now being wildly misused by the most irresponsible people we have, namely a violent drunk (Hegseth) and a pack of cowboy murderers (JSOC).
 

Brovane

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A disguised P-8 in civil markings seems like an excellent way to get everybody with twitchy trigger fingers to start downing 737s full of civilians. By that I mean if you have this capability you do not use it unless in dire circumstances.

You mean like when Russian's shootdown Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 or Iran Air Flight 655 by the US?

My best guess if it was a P-8 or similar aircraft, it wasn't in civil markings it was just minimal markings.
Of course visual aircraft identification is always difficult from a distance. That is why as a matter of policy, civilian airliners try to steer well clear of any combat zone.

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K1052

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You mean like when Russian's shootdown Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 or Iran Air Flight 655 by the US?

My best guess if it was a P-8 or similar aircraft, it wasn't in civil markings it was just minimal markings.
Of course visual aircraft identification is always difficult from a distance. That is why as a matter of policy, civilian airliners try to steer well clear of any combat zone.

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I think it is probably worse if there is indeed a civ marked P-8 flying around armed since 1) the 737 is an immensely popular plane and 2) there are probably at least a half dozen countries worried about these morons trying a decapitation strike.
 
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Brovane

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I think it is probably worse if there is indeed a civ marked P-8 flying around armed since 1) the 737 is an immensely popular plane and 2) there are probably at least a half dozen countries worried about these morons trying a decapitation strike.

If it was a Civ marked P-8, the lack of windows would be kind of a giveway that it wasn't civilian. Also considering all the plane spotting that goes on, I doubt it would escape notice and not be photographed at somepoint.
 

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If it was a Civ marked P-8, the lack of windows would be kind of a giveway that it wasn't civilian. Also considering all the plane spotting that goes on, I doubt it would escape notice and not be photographed at somepoint.

Depends where it lives I think. If we indeed own one of these you'd really want to keep it out of sight on the ground. In the air you couldn't tell unless you got really close. With the moderate size, the aux tanks, and aerial refueling capability there is really nowhere you couldn't stash it to maintain secrecy.
 
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Just absolute morons to burn a covert asset for this bullshit.
Also, like the military's great strength is supposed to be its logistics. This really screams like a two bit operation put together by a bunch of idiots who don't know that and who think that the Navy Seals are going to win WW3 and not just be blown to smitherines by a barage of artillery fire.

Like, you couldn't figure out how to move any other asset from around the world for your murder spree?
 
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