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Venezuela seizes oil rigs owned by US company

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theredunderurbed said:
what the hell do people expect, we have not got off oil. This shit will be happening more and more as we opened ourselves up to this with our idiotic energy policies.

But oh well, big oil corporations had to get even richer.

Please, those who wish to die for some ceos oil profits, go for it!

Thin the herd of stupidity.
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lol.
 
This has been going on well before Obama was elected involving U.S. company assets far greater than a dozen offshore oil rigs.

The fact is we need them for a lot of our oil, it's the only reason we don't embargo them to death like we do Cuba. It sucks, but that's just the reality of the situation. I'm sure the Nerdhawks would advocate war since they love COD so much, but it's not a realistic solution to the current problem, and would just exacerbate our oil supply problems.

The people calling out Obama have absolutely no clue about history, and can only entertain themselves participating in an online circle jerk session.
 
I bet you right wingers are chomping at the bit to replace Chavez with a right wing fascist dictator like we used to do in the old days!
 
Red Dawn said:
How high are these Afghans?
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Pretty high. I saw a bunch of ANCOP guys trying to catch scorpions the other day. It took me a while to get the full explanation, but it goes something like this: They catch the scorpions, put them in plastic water bottles in the sun, let them die and dry up for a couple days, then shake them to pieces in the bottle and use the scorpion bits to lace their hand-rolled cigarettes. Apparently the poison makes them hallucinate.

So combined with all the weed, I'd say they're all pretty fuckin' high.
 
Schadenfroh said:
Maybe we should nationalize Citgo and sell its assets to Chevron, Exxon, Phillips, etc.?

(not advocating this as it would open up a bad can of worms, but it would be a significant retaliation and start a trade war)
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Except we buy oil from venezuela. If there was only a source closer to us under our control.
 
CLite said:
This has been going on well before Obama was elected involving U.S. company assets far greater than a dozen offshore oil rigs.

The fact is we need them for a lot of our oil, it's the only reason we don't embargo them to death like we do Cuba. It sucks, but that's just the reality of the situation. I'm sure the Nerdhawks would advocate war since they love COD so much, but it's not a realistic solution to the current problem, and would just exacerbate our oil supply problems.

The people calling out Obama have absolutely no clue about history, and can only entertain themselves participating in an online circle jerk session.
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We don't really need Venezuela's oil. They are a very tiny portion of our oil supply.
 
bfdd said:
We don't really need Venezuela's oil. They are a very tiny portion of our oil supply.
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At least know what you're talking about before you post.

http://internationaltradecommoditie...m/us-crude-oil-imports-and-exports-by-country

In 2009 Venezuela was the second largest importer of of crude oil to the US.

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And as of April 2010 that I can find they've been the 5th largest importer in 2010. 10%+ is not a very tiny portion. It's actually a pretty huge amount considering how much oil we use.
 
thraashman said:
At least know what you're talking about before you post.

http://internationaltradecommoditie...m/us-crude-oil-imports-and-exports-by-country

In 2009 Venezuela was the second largest importer of of crude oil to the US.

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And as of April 2010 that I can find they've been the 5th largest importer in 2010. 10%+ is not a very tiny portion. It's actually a pretty huge amount considering how much oil we use.
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You're counting only importers and not domestic oil. Over half of what we use is domestic. So 10% of less than 50% isn't that much and could be replaced rather easily. Canada, Saudi, Mexico on the other hand would be much harder to replace. Fact is oil from Venezuela is expensive compared to Mexico, Canada, and SA.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/...ons/company_level_imports/current/import.html

use your chart and look at how much we paid to Venezuela vs how much oil we got from them in 2009. Venezuela could be replaced.

oh also don't count petroleum imports. refined products are not what I'm talking about and that's where Venezuela saw their huge surge was the exportation of gasoline to the USA. That occurred because we don't have or didn't have at the time(probably still do I've been out of the loop for awhile) enough refineries to meet our demand for gasoline and gasoline is a lot more expensive per barrel than raw crude.
 
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Clearly, the solution to this is to invade Cuba, they support Chavez and it will be a great diversion. Hey, it worked for Reagan, GHWB and GWB. 🙂
 
TheRedUnderURBed said:
What the hell do people expect, we have not got off oil. This shit will be happening more and more as we opened ourselves up to this with our idiotic energy policies.

But oh well, big oil corporations had to get even richer.

Please, those who wish to die for some CEOs oil profits, go for it!

Thin the herd of stupidity.
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Flip the blame from Chavez onto the USA. Classic Chavez dick sucking from steeplerot.
 
yllus said:
Unfortunately, there's nothing the U.S. under any president can do about this.
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we can say "give them back or we'll consider this an act of war against the United States" it's pretty simple they're stealing from American interests, specifically an American company. I understand the whole playing by the rules in doing business in a foreign country, but this goes over and beyond that.
 
bfdd said:
we can say "give them back or we'll consider this an act of war against the United States" it's pretty simple they're stealing from American interests, specifically an American company. I understand the whole playing by the rules in doing business in a foreign country, but this goes over and beyond that.
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Where in the Constitution does it say we wage war on sovereign nations for stealing "our" companies' assets?
 
Chavez is a total dick, but the warhawk corporatiest idiots here are a source of amusement. Go to war with another country in order to intercede in a dispute between an American corporation and a foreign government? LOL, that is more extreme than even Dick Cheney.

Comments made here about the risk of doing business in a dangerous and/or unstable political situation are pretty much spot on.

- wolf
 
Throckmorton said:
Where in the Constitution does it say we wage war on sovereign nations for stealing "our" companies' assets?
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... does the constitution have a list of reasons we can go to war for and a list of reasons we can't? Attacking our corporations and our interests is very much a reason to go to war, much more so of a reason than any war we've been in in recent times.
 
woolfe9999 said:
Chavez is a total dick, but the warhawk corporatiest idiots here are a source of amusement. Go to war with another country in order to intercede in a dispute between an American corporation and a foreign government? LOL, that is more extreme than even Dick Cheney.

Comments made here about the risk of doing business in a dangerous and/or unstable political situation are pretty much spot on.

- wolf
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The same people complaining that the UN can't even recommend that Japan teach real history "because it violates their sovereignty" are advocating violating Venezuela's sovereignty to get back some oil rigs for companies that knowingly operated in a dictatorship.
 
woolfe9999 said:
Chavez is a total dick, but the warhawk corporatiest idiots here are a source of amusement. Go to war with another country in order to intercede in a dispute between an American corporation and a foreign government? LOL, that is more extreme than even Dick Cheney.

Comments made here about the risk of doing business in a dangerous and/or unstable political situation are pretty much spot on.

- wolf
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Do not disagree that doing business in places like Venezuela or any foreign country for that matter has its risks, but at the same time we can't allow Venezuela to screw our companies over like that. I totally understand playing within the rules of a foreign nation, like MS complying with the Great Firewall of China(even if I disagree with it), this though isn't the case. They let them setup shop build these platforms then took them. Very much a different scenario and this is something our government should actually step in on and take action with. This is potentially a lot of lost money and resources for one of our corporations and our nation.
 
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