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Vehicle reliablilty rankings?

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KDOG

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Where would be the best place to look for reliablitly ratings? I'm starting to look around for new vehicle. From what I've seen, the Jeep Commander doesn't have a good rating which I was surprised. So I'm looking around for all the reliablity info I can find on the vehicles I'm interested in. Any help would be appreciated!
 
Ratings mean little. Find owners of the vehicle you are looking at through their dedicated forums and find out what problems people are having.
 
Ratings mean little. Find owners of the vehicle you are looking at through their dedicated forums and find out what problems people are having.


And you'll get the same problem that every forum gets that is dedicated to anything hardware/software/anything.....you see the bitching about problems but never see the people without problems. One could safely assume, given what you say, that everything is crap because everything is bitched about....no matter how small the representative group is out of the larger group of all owners of the product.

And, as for ratings being crap, guess Lexus, Toyota and Honda suck then, right, because those three car lines typically rate very highly.

At least the ratings surveys take a sample of all owners, not just the ones bitching about problems....so you have a much better cross section of all owners, not just the ones who take time to whine about problems they may be having.
 
Ratings used to mean more
The gaps between the worst cars and best cars are a lot smaller and overall the whole industry has trended down over the last decade where they aren't improving much.

Now people bitch about quality of upholstery or a broken visor where before it was fvcked transmissions etc which is much rarer.

I'd find a car I like, find out if it has any fatal flaws from forums etc that aren't being addressed by the manufacturer.

http://mycarstats.com/
I go here to see what gets reported to the government cause usually if they make the effort to go that high up its just not forum bashing. It also tells you recalls and TSB's
 
And you'll get the same problem that every forum gets that is dedicated to anything hardware/software/anything.....you see the bitching about problems but never see the people without problems. One could safely assume, given what you say, that everything is crap because everything is bitched about....no matter how small the representative group is out of the larger group of all owners of the product.

And, as for ratings being crap, guess Lexus, Toyota and Honda suck then, right, because those three car lines typically rate very highly.

At least the ratings surveys take a sample of all owners, not just the ones bitching about problems....so you have a much better cross section of all owners, not just the ones who take time to whine about problems they may be having.

Uh, maybe I should have qualified that the prerequisite is a brain? Even if the entire forum bitches about rattles, that is hardly a catastrophic issue that should have you staying away from a car. How about a forum bitching about a rusting frame? Yes, that might be more cause for concern.

Yea, Toyotas rate highly. That's why my car has countless TSBs, recalls, rattles, and issues. Transmission replacements, Leaking oil lines resulting in blown engines and engine replacements. If you read the forums, then you may be smart and avoid the '07 models and buy an '09 or '10 instead.
 
Ratings mean little. Find owners of the vehicle you are looking at through their dedicated forums and find out what problems people are having.

That is an absolutely horrible answer. Ratings are statistical sampling and are by far the best indicator of relative reliability. Anecdotal evidence off web sites is completely meaningless unless you're going for a tuner type car where you want to know which ones can and can't be tuned.

Generally speaking Edmunds is a good source for reliability.
 
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Ratings used to mean more

Now people bitch about quality of upholstery or a broken visor where before it was fvcked transmissions etc which is much rarer.

I'd find a car I like, find out if it has any fatal flaws from forums etc that aren't being addressed by the manufacturer.

Yeah, before, reliability meant the car was able to get you from point A to point B. Now it's every little "fix rear brake light" error warning on the dash means the car is unreliable.
 
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