[Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

[LTC8K6]

The 1080 at 2.1GHz is barely faster than a 980Ti at 1.52GHz, while running at about the same temps on air.

What's that got to do with the 1080 being "barely faster" than Fury X?

Is that a reference 980ti overclock? Or an aftermarket high OC card?

And how much power is the 980ti using at 1.52Ghz compared to the 1080 at 2.1ghz?

 

[Lepton87]

The 1080 at 2.1GHz is barely faster than a 980Ti at 1.52GHz, while running at about the same temps on air.

People seem to forget it is largely the same architecture and 980Ti has more bandwidth, enough more that a bit improved delta compression can't make up for. It's like BW compared to HW.

ps. I wouldn't be surprised to see OC cards neck and neck under-water if 1080 can't draw enough watts from that single PCI-E connector.

 

[Lepton87]

What's that got to do with the 1080 being "barely faster" than Fury X?

Is that a reference 980ti overclock? Or an aftermarket high OC card?

And how much power is the 980ti using at 1.52Ghz compared to the 1080 at 2.1ghz?

Like enthusiasts care about power. Good one. my poor radiator could get 0.1C warmer, what a catastrophe!

 

[plopke]

Urgh this starting to closy feel more like paying for the next tier then the next generation. A bit like Intel do there extreme CPU's.

 

[thesmokingman]

Like enthusiasts care about power. Good one. my poor radiator could get 0.1C warmer, what a catastrophe!

I know right? Lmao, ppl buying $700 gpus are not crying when they pay their power bills.

 

[wilds]

I think you meant 1070. MSI is supposedly coming out with a 1070 that has 5X memory.

Yep. Awesome! A 1070 with GDDR5X will be very exciting.

 

[torlen11cc]

That is what the reviewers don't want us to see.

Why not?

 

[alcoholbob]

The 1080 at 2.1GHz is barely faster than a 980Ti at 1.52GHz, while running at about the same temps on air.

I think people are looking forward to hitting 2.4ghz with aftermarket 1080s though. At that point its about 30% faster than a 1.5ghz 980ti. Hell they are saying 2.5ghz+ is possible on aftermarket wc cards, but well see.

 

[LTC8K6]

Like enthusiasts care about power. Good one. my poor radiator could get 0.1C warmer, what a catastrophe!

Now you are adding water cooling? I thought the card was already too expensive?

How did we get there already?

And will your water cooled 1080 still be barely faster than Fury?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38230035&postcount=81

Enquiring minds want to know, but it seems I can't get an answer.

Meanwhile, I will be looking hard at the 1070 for my rig.

 

[Tempered81]

The 1080 at 2.1GHz is barely faster than a 980Ti at 1.52GHz, while running at about the same temps on air.

1080 really fast bro

 

[thesmokingman]

Now you are adding water cooling? I thought the card was already too expensive?

How did we get there already?

And will your water cooled 1080 still be barely faster than Fury?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38230035&postcount=81

Enquiring minds want to know, but it seems I can't get an answer.

Meanwhile, I will be looking hard at the 1070 for my rig.

lol, you have a chip about that post already?

 

[MagickMan]

Like enthusiasts care about power. Good one. my poor radiator could get 0.1C warmer, what a catastrophe!

Word. My 420x60 rad don't care. 3x Oc'd 980TIs? Big deal.

 

[LTC8K6]

lol, you have a chip about that post already?

I can't believe it was let go.

1080 barely faster than Fury.

Not even Fury X.

 

[MagickMan]

I think people are looking forward to hitting 2.4ghz with aftermarket 1080s though. At that point its about 30% faster than a 1.5ghz 980ti. Hell they are saying 2.5ghz+ is possible on aftermarket wc cards, but well see.

I don't think they'll get close, not with a single 8-pin power socket.

 

[LTC8K6]

I don't think they'll get close, not with a single 8-pin power socket.

Be pretty surprising to find a single 8 pin connector on the usual aftermarket suspects.

 

[MagickMan]

Be pretty surprising to find a single 8 pin connector on the usual aftermarket suspects.

No, I'm pretty sure that'll be standard for a very long time, much like the reference power setups were for former generations.

 

[Despoiler]

I wish a review site would clock the 1080 to reference 980/Ti speeds so we could see the actual IPC improvement between Maxwell and Pascal.

 

[SPBHM]

The 1080 at 2.1GHz is barely faster than a 980Ti at 1.52GHz, while running at about the same temps on air.

same temp? are they even running with the same cooler? what about power usage?

also, the 980 TI can't run at the same clocks as the 1080, so requiring a higher clock (while using less power) to perform the same is not really a problem,


the 1080 delivers, the performance improvement is good, considering it as a successor to GM204, it's great, the unfortunate thing is pricing, the founders edition only availability that is... but, in the end if supply is limited, cards had higher price than expected in the past... and when it's at $599... well, it already made the 980 ti and Fury X irrelevant at $699 anyway.

this card kind of makes me sad for AMD...

 

[IllogicalGlory]

1080 really fast bro

That OC'ed 980 Ti is a reference one that hits the thermal limits like a wall.

Here's a demonstration (from TPU's reference 980 Ti review):

And then a "real" 980 Ti:

Irritatingly, TPU upped the resolution from the first review, but you can see that an OC'ed aftermarket 980 Ti smashes the reference one by 40%, while an OC'ed reference 980 Ti merely wins by 9%. That's one huge difference.

It remains to be seen if any kind of performance delta will be seen with the aftermarket 1080s, but given that it generates less heat, and that the nominal frequencies on the reference (OC) 980 Ti are similar to the nominal (and indeed actual) frequencies on aftermarket one are similar, I think 2100/1450 are pretty close to the upper bounds on the 1080's frequency.

Reference vs reference:
980 Ti overclocks by 26%/18%
1080 overclocks by 11%/16%

However, both the 1080 and 980 Ti fail to hold their maximum boost clocks under load, with the 980 Ti dropping to 1128 on average, and the 1080 dropping to 1783 on average, compared to their maximums of 1202/1873 respectively. The 980 Ti loses a little bit more (93.8% of max vs 95.2% of max).

We will see aftermarket cards significantly faster, but I predict factory OC'ed models to be about 10% faster than stock, after OC, they'll be around 20% faster, rather than the 20/40 difference we see with 980 Tis.

 

[MagickMan]

same temp? are they even running with the same cooler? what about power usage?

also, the 980 TI can't run at the same clocks as the 1080, so requiring a higher clock (while using less power) to perform the same is not really a problem,

I didn't say it could, but the cap for reference 1080s is about 2.1GHz, while the cap for most decent 3rd party 980TIs is about 1500 (as long as you don't fail in the chip lottery). Comparing those, the 1080 isn't much faster than a 980TI at all.

the 1080 delivers, the performance improvement is good, considering it as a successor to GM204, it's great, the unfortunate thing is pricing, the founders edition only availability that is... but, in the end if supply is limited, cards had higher price than expected in the past... and when it's at $599... well, it already made the 980 ti and Fury X irrelevant at $699 anyway.

this card kind of makes me sad for AMD...

With used 980TIs being sold for $400 or less, the smart money's on buying one of those, if you don't already have a good GPU, and waiting for the eventual 1080TI. That is, unless you're just obsessed with efficiency and pay a lot for your electricity (I don't, it's cheap where I am).

 

[LTC8K6]

No, I'm pretty sure that'll be standard for a very long time, much like the reference power setups were for former generations.

Kinda' looks like ZOTAC has used more than one?

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52085/zotac-teases-geforce-gtx-1080-pgf-modified-pcb-more/index.html

 

[moonbogg]

That is what the reviewers don't want us to see.

Don't worry. Have some faith. Nvidia will fix that real quick with a little "driver tweaking"

Also, this is an INCREDIBLE time for people with a single 980Ti to go SLI. I guess they could sell the 980ti and get two 1070's, but it will cost more. They could grab a second 980Ti and benefit from SLI (if their games will use it) and hold off until 1080ti/Vega for about $350 or whatever the 980ti's are going for.
For my own needs, if I want more performance this would be a good time to try out a custom BIOS and add some voltage to get these 980ti's past 1500 stable. Temps aren't an issue no matter what, so that's good.

 

[MagickMan]

Kinda' looks like ZOTAC has used more than one?

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52085/zotac-teases-geforce-gtx-1080-pgf-modified-pcb-more/index.html

For $900 or more (at least a 50% premium). That's equivalent to MSI's Lightning and EVGA's K1NGP1N.

 

[LTC8K6]

We'll need to see an ASUS 1080 Matrix edition first, I think.

 

[LTC8K6]

For $900 or more. That's equivalent to MSI's Lightning and EVGA's K1NGP1N.

Yeah, that's what we are talking about, aftermarket cards.

Those would be two of the "usual suspects" I already mentioned.