Vancouver Canada places # 3 in most desireable place to live in the world survey

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
NM

New Mexico?

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: dennilfloss
I prefer Ottawa.

I'm still ashamed you're canadian.. so creepy.

yeah, you're a model citizen

 

[AbAbber2k]

Vancouver is a wonderful city. I live in Washington a little over an hour away.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: dennilfloss
I prefer Ottawa.

I'm still ashamed you're canadian.. so creepy.

yeah, you're a model citizen

Never said I was, but I don't fake murdering people and post super creepy pictures of myself on the internet.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
but it's ccccold there.

Come on over ......... I have a king size............... bed

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Steve]

I used to live in Toronto, and Halifax. So far I have to say I'm enjoying Chicago the most.

 

[miniMUNCH]

My wife's folks have a 'small palace' outside of Vancouver. My thoughts on the city.

Vancouver proper is awesome, awesome... if you don't mind the winter weather. Overcast and rainy, like Seattle.

Summer in BC is wonderful.

Absolutely breath taking wilderness areas north and north east of vancouver, great skiing/boarding to be had during the winter.

Should also be mentioned that UBC is one of the 10-15 best technical universities in the world.

The crime in the city proper and outlying areas isn't THAT bad... it used to be worse as I understand it. Crime in the San Francisco or LA is worse.

All that being said... I don't think I could live in Vancouver and be happy. As soon as I finish up my Ph.D. my wife and I are going back to Cali at all costs.

 

[andylawcc]

cool. maybe I too will get my peid de terr right thurr.

 

[miniMUNCH]

As you can deduct from above post...I like Canada a lot.

But let me point out things that I don't like about Canada:

Taxes and what you get for them... Canadians are over taxed and don't really get that much more than US citizens get for their tax dollar.

The Canadian school systems, in general, are a little better and you get free health care.

Medical care in Canada is free but not as good as medical care in the US... I know many, many people who have lived in Canada and US and every one of them have stated in no uncertain terms how much better health care quality in the US is wrt to Canada.

So I'll happily take a 20% tax break in the US (that is more like what it ends up being) and buy my own HMO insurance.

I can buy my own top of the line health care for my family for $300 USD per month (and premiums are really high in Pa compared to the greater US). Plus, if you have any kind of a side business (ebay, performing arts gigs, etc.) you can deduct health care plan costs from private business income.

And all that is assuming that you don't already have insurance through an employer.



Less Important things

The taxes on alcohol are absolutely crazy... like 200-300% markup over the US.

Meat is way too expensive.

Produce in Canada during the winter is bad (even wrt what you get Pittsburgh, PA) and way too expensive. Compared to California... fogetaboudit.

A lot of people in Canada are racist (just like parts of the US). I could be way off here so native Canadian correct me if you feel I am out of line on this one.

One of my friends, who is black, is a Canadian citizen but going to school in the US. He he said he never wants to live in Canada again and has told me story after story of abuse and discrimination he endured in Canada. He said that this kind of behavior is fairly pervasive across Canada from in his experience and the experience of other Canadian minorities that he knows. his experience in the US has been completely different and much. much better in that regard... even in Pittsburgh, which I consider from my experience to be less accepting and openminded than folks in Cali.

I, myself, have witness some serious f'ed up racist sh1t in Vancouver... things I have never seen in California or western PA.

That's it.

 

[JS80]

happiness is a state of mind. only a socialist robot wants to live in canada.

 

[Molondo]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
As you can deduct from above post...I like Canada a lot.

But let me point out things that I don't like about Canada:

Taxes and what you get for them... Canadians are over taxed and don't really get that much more than US citizens get for their tax dollar.

The Canadian school systems, in general, are a little better and you get free health care.

Medical care in Canada is free but not as good as medical care in the US... I know many, many people who have lived in Canada and US and every one of them have stated in no uncertain terms how much better health care quality in the US is wrt to Canada.

So I'll happily take a 20% tax break in the US (that is more like what it ends up being) and buy my own HMO insurance.

I can buy my own top of the line health care for my family for $300 USD per month (and premiums are really high in Pa compared to the greater US). Plus, if you have any kind of a side business (ebay, performing arts gigs, etc.) you can deduct health care plan costs from private business income.

And all that is assuming that you don't already have insurance through an employer.



Less Important things

The taxes on alcohol are absolutely crazy... like 200-300% markup over the US.

Meat is way too expensive.

Produce in Canada during the winter is bad (even wrt what you get Pittsburgh, PA) and way too expensive. Compared to California... fogetaboudit.

A lot of people in Canada are racist (just like parts of the US). I could be way off here so native Canadian correct me if you feel I am out of line on this one.

One of my friends, who is black, is a Canadian citizen but going to school in the US. He he said he never wants to live in Canada again and has told me story after story of abuse and discrimination he endured in Canada. He said that this kind of behavior is fairly pervasive across Canada from in his experience and the experience of other Canadian minorities that he knows. his experience in the US has been completely different and much. much better in that regard... even in Pittsburgh, which I consider from my experience to be less accepting and openminded than folks in Cali.

I, myself, have witness some serious f'ed up racist sh1t in Vancouver... things I have never seen in California or western PA.

That's it.

This one works both ways.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
As you can deduct from above post...I like Canada a lot.

But let me point out things that I don't like about Canada:

Taxes and what you get for them... Canadians are over taxed and don't really get that much more than US citizens get for their tax dollar.

The Canadian school systems, in general, are a little better and you get free health care.

Medical care in Canada is free but not as good as medical care in the US... I know many, many people who have lived in Canada and US and every one of them have stated in no uncertain terms how much better health care quality in the US is wrt to Canada.

So I'll happily take a 20% tax break in the US (that is more like what it ends up being) and buy my own HMO insurance.

I can buy my own top of the line health care for my family for $300 USD per month (and premiums are really high in Pa compared to the greater US). Plus, if you have any kind of a side business (ebay, performing arts gigs, etc.) you can deduct health care plan costs from private business income.

And all that is assuming that you don't already have insurance through an employer.



Less Important things

The taxes on alcohol are absolutely crazy... like 200-300% markup over the US.

Meat is way too expensive.

Produce in Canada during the winter is bad (even wrt what you get Pittsburgh, PA) and way too expensive. Compared to California... fogetaboudit.

A lot of people in Canada are racist (just like parts of the US). I could be way off here so native Canadian correct me if you feel I am out of line on this one.

One of my friends, who is black, is a Canadian citizen but going to school in the US. He he said he never wants to live in Canada again and has told me story after story of abuse and discrimination he endured in Canada. He said that this kind of behavior is fairly pervasive across Canada from in his experience and the experience of other Canadian minorities that he knows. his experience in the US has been completely different and much. much better in that regard... even in Pittsburgh, which I consider from my experience to be less accepting and openminded than folks in Cali.

I, myself, have witness some serious f'ed up racist sh1t in Vancouver... things I have never seen in California or western PA.

That's it.

Not to be an ass but at the highest point the difference tax bracket differences is 10%.. I was talking to a VP of cingular at a Yankees game last year and he and my dad were discussing the disparity between taxes.

Secondly, there is private healthcare in Canada. My parents have extended medical, it's worth it, and isn't 300 dollars a month.

Meat isn't that expensive, but our standards for product are higher.

People in Canada aren't nearly as racist as they are in the states, people up here are racist if you're an illegal (big suprise), or if you're native, you don't see the black vs white, white vs. south american, black vs. south american, white vs. asian things going on up here.

If he's black.. well.. no one really likes the black population up here in Canada.. why? Because 95% of them are from the greater toronto area. Toronto is the only city in Canada with an american-like crime rate. Why? Because a majority of petty theft and misdemeanor crimes are by black people.

A woman and her daughter were gunned down outside of a mall on Boxing Day 2005, the criminals? 4 black blinged out gangsters. Unfortunately stereotypes have the unfortunately reality of having a slight foundation of truth.

Seems that you should be a little bit better informed before you start pulling tax rates out of your butt.

The Medical system in the USA is obviously better, but if you're poor? forget about it. Its rosy to say that you'd rather be in the states for healthcare ify ou have money, but if you're in the states and you have no flow.. forget about it.

The disparity between rich and poor is less, and I don't mind if it means less poverty, less vagrants and less pan handlers, cleaner streets, less subserviency, less disparity.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
I, myself, have witness some serious f'ed up racist sh1t in Vancouver... things I have never seen in California or western PA.

With soo many chinese there, I thought Vancouver would have been less racist. (unless it is the chineses who administer the racism)

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
I, myself, have witness some serious f'ed up racist sh1t in Vancouver... things I have never seen in California or western PA.

With soo many chinese there, I thought Vancouver would have been less racist. (unless it is the chineses who administer the racism)

The racist people are the asian people.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
I, myself, have witness some serious f'ed up racist sh1t in Vancouver... things I have never seen in California or western PA.

With soo many chinese there, I thought Vancouver would have been less racist. (unless it is the chineses who administer the racism)

The racist people are the asian people.

ah ha. I am not too surprised.

 

[SirStev0]

it is quite pretty.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Not to be an ass but at the highest point the difference tax bracket differences is 10%.. I was talking to a VP of cingular at a Yankees game last year and he and my dad were discussing the disparity between taxes.

Secondly, there is private healthcare in Canada. My parents have extended medical, it's worth it, and isn't 300 dollars a month.

Meat isn't that expensive, but our standards for product are higher.

People in Canada aren't nearly as racist as they are in the states, people up here are racist if you're an illegal (big suprise), or if you're native, you don't see the black vs white, white vs. south american, black vs. south american, white vs. asian things going on up here.

If he's black.. well.. no one really likes the black population up here in Canada.. why? Because 95% of them are from the greater toronto area. Toronto is the only city in Canada with an american-like crime rate. Why? Because a majority of petty theft and misdemeanor crimes are by black people.

A woman and her daughter were gunned down outside of a mall on Boxing Day 2005, the criminals? 4 black blinged out gangsters. Unfortunately stereotypes have the unfortunately reality of having a slight foundation of truth.

Seems that you should be a little bit better informed before you start pulling tax rates out of your butt.

The Medical system in the USA is obviously better, but if you're poor? forget about it. Its rosy to say that you'd rather be in the states for healthcare ify ou have money, but if you're in the states and you have no flow.. forget about it.

The disparity between rich and poor is less, and I don't mind if it means less poverty, less vagrants and less pan handlers, cleaner streets, less subserviency, less disparity.

You obviously have no idea what your talking about in terms of taxes, I'm just going to leave it at that.

I've been to vancouver quite a few times and there are quite a few homeless people. Don't get me wrong, they're everywhere - but here in Denver at least they beg for change and leave it at that. In Vancouver they run out to clean your windshield and then get pissed if you let them do it without tipping them. I didn't ask them to do it, I'm not tipping. Not to mention I've practically almost ran over a couple of them. I've never seen so many crazy homeless people outside of San Fran or NY

I don't think there are less pan handlers and the like in downtown vancouver then in any city of equal size throughout the US. And I have family that lives there so I've been there enough times to establish that opinion.

And to your opinions about the poor, well its just my opinion that this is precisely what is wrong with your country. I'm not going into a big monologue, but if someone doesn't work for success in life then why should a hard working person such as myself have to give up so much for those people. I think its hilarious that you guys think your doing them a favor by giving them handouts, letting them live on your dime. Your not. And if you believe in this delusion that because of these handouts, there are somehow less homeless people your pretty far off too. I don't have any stats, but I don't feel like I need to with all of my visits there.

Don't get me wrong - if it wasn't for a few things I'd want to live in Canada. Unfortunetely those few things are the more important, since overall Canada has a lot of other things right. And of course the psuedo-european elitist attitude you guys seem to share doesn't help either.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Not to be an ass but at the highest point the difference tax bracket differences is 10%.. I was talking to a VP of cingular at a Yankees game last year and he and my dad were discussing the disparity between taxes.

Secondly, there is private healthcare in Canada. My parents have extended medical, it's worth it, and isn't 300 dollars a month.

Meat isn't that expensive, but our standards for product are higher.

People in Canada aren't nearly as racist as they are in the states, people up here are racist if you're an illegal (big suprise), or if you're native, you don't see the black vs white, white vs. south american, black vs. south american, white vs. asian things going on up here.

If he's black.. well.. no one really likes the black population up here in Canada.. why? Because 95% of them are from the greater toronto area. Toronto is the only city in Canada with an american-like crime rate. Why? Because a majority of petty theft and misdemeanor crimes are by black people.

A woman and her daughter were gunned down outside of a mall on Boxing Day 2005, the criminals? 4 black blinged out gangsters. Unfortunately stereotypes have the unfortunately reality of having a slight foundation of truth.

Seems that you should be a little bit better informed before you start pulling tax rates out of your butt.

The Medical system in the USA is obviously better, but if you're poor? forget about it. Its rosy to say that you'd rather be in the states for healthcare ify ou have money, but if you're in the states and you have no flow.. forget about it.

The disparity between rich and poor is less, and I don't mind if it means less poverty, less vagrants and less pan handlers, cleaner streets, less subserviency, less disparity.

You obviously have no idea what your talking about in terms of taxes, I'm just going to leave it at that.

I've been to vancouver quite a few times and there are quite a few homeless people. Don't get me wrong, they're everywhere - but here in Denver at least they beg for change and leave it at that. In Vancouver they run out to clean your windshield and then get pissed if you let them do it without tipping them. I didn't ask them to do it, I'm not tipping. Not to mention I've practically almost ran over a couple of them. I've never seen so many crazy homeless people outside of San Fran or NY

I don't think there are less pan handlers and the like in downtown vancouver then in any city of equal size throughout the US. And I have family that lives there so I've been there enough times to establish that opinion.

And to your opinions about the poor, well its just my opinion that this is precisely what is wrong with your country. I'm not going into a big monologue, but if someone doesn't work for success in life then why should a hard working person such as myself have to give up so much for those people. I think its hilarious that you guys think your doing them a favor by giving them handouts, letting them live on your dime. Your not. And if you believe in this delusion that because of these handouts, there are somehow less homeless people your pretty far off too. I don't have any stats, but I don't feel like I need to with all of my visits there.

Don't get me wrong - if it wasn't for a few things I'd want to live in Canada. Unfortunetely those few things are the more important, since overall Canada has a lot of other things right. And of course the psuedo-european elitist attitude you guys seem to share doesn't help either.

You're an idiot, you already did your monologue.

Your country sucks, but if it were more like the States I would live there.

'Nuff said.

Oh and I guess my dad who was an accounting major and a vp of cingular know nothing about taxes. :roll:

 

[BudAshes]

this is a pile of crap. Germany is not that great to live in.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara
You're an idiot, you already did your monologue.

Your country sucks, but if it were more like the States I would live there.

'Nuff said.

Oh and I guess my dad who was an accounting major and a vp of cingular know nothing about taxes. :roll:

Not like I care who your dad is, he may or may not have a clue about American tax numbers versus Canadian, or you might and he just lies to you. I don't really care.

The facts are clear if you look for them, but I can tell your already sold that your country is the greatest and your City is the greatest too. Earlier in the thread you said your sales taxes were 5%, you don't even know your own sales tax since its 13%, since all provincial governments except Alberta levy sales taxes your paying 7% to them and 6% to federal. Your property taxes account for about ten percent of total taxation in Canada. Overall you guys are paying around 10-20% more in taxes then we do.

According to the World Bank, the U. S. has a GDP per capita that is more than a third higher than Canadian per capita GDP ($34,280 for the U.S., $26,530 for Canada). So not only are you giving more of your paycheck to all of the needy poor people, you make a lot less to begin with - and pay a lot in sales tax (about double)

Believe what you like.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: RyanSengara
You're an idiot, you already did your monologue.

Your country sucks, but if it were more like the States I would live there.

'Nuff said.

Oh and I guess my dad who was an accounting major and a vp of cingular know nothing about taxes. :roll:

Not like I care who your dad is, he may or may not have a clue about American tax numbers versus Canadian, or you might and he just lies to you. I don't really care.

The facts are clear if you look for them, but I can tell your already sold that your country is the greatest and your City is the greatest too. Earlier in the thread you said your sales taxes were 5%, you don't even know your own sales tax since its 13%, since all provincial governments except Alberta levy sales taxes your paying 7% to them and 6% to federal. Your property taxes account for about ten percent of total taxation in Canada. Overall you guys are paying around 10-20% more in taxes then we do.

According to the World Bank, the U. S. has a GDP per capita that is more than a third higher than Canadian per capita GDP ($34,280 for the U.S., $26,530 for Canada). So not only are you giving more of your paycheck to all of the needy poor people, you make a lot less to begin with - and pay a lot in sales tax (about double)

Believe what you like.

Clearly you do since we were addressing it, and clearly you're full of yourself.

Clearly you're more informed about the finances and tax systems of the USA than a VP in Marketing for Cingular.

Sorry if I'll take a little bit more established and qualified advice over some opinionated fucknuts that insults where I come from on a forum.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Clearly you're more informed about the finances and tax systems of the USA than a VP in Marketing for Cingular.

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Long-Term Capital Management (LTCM) was a hedge fund founded in 1994 by John Meriwether (the former vice-chairman and head of bond trading at Salomon Brothers). On its board of directors were Myron Scholes and Robert C. Merton, who shared the 1997 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics[1]. Initially enormously successful with annualized returns of over 40% in its first years, in 1998 it lost $4.6 billion in less than four months and became the most prominent example of the risk potential in the hedge fund industry. The fund folded in early 2000.[/qoute]

 

[Molondo]

Americans love Calgary. A very high number of Americans are coming here. Must be oil

What number did Victoria come out to?

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: Molondo
Americans love Calgary. A very high number of Americans are coming here. Must be oil

What number did Victoria come out to?

I don't think Victoria was large enough to be ranked at all.

 

[DotheDamnTHing]

Go TORONTO!!!