V6 raw power

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: Shooters
I've gotten my '97 Maxima up to 135MPH. It took forever, but it did get there.

Heh, I got my '93 Maxima SE 5sp up to 143 MPH once.

 

[Kroze]

my 92 300zx NA V6 goes 120mph EASILY, definitely got a lot more breathing room to go up to 150 but i'm scared of traffic 🙁 once i hit 120 and flying past everyone. THe motor still got so much more juice even at that speed when i step on the gas.


Different story on my 90 Supra Turbo. The thing takes foreverrrr to get to 120.

 

[BurnItDwn]

my Chrysler 300M has a V6.
The speed governer kicks in at 118 MPH, however the car *should* be capable of about 145mph given its Horsepower (253 HP @ 6400RPM) Torque (255 lb. -ft @ 3500RPM) and coefficient of drag ( 0.31).

Cruising at 118MPH, the car drives very smooth, and the gas pedal is only halfway depressed ...

Weight doen't really make too much of a difference when it comes to top speed (well it is important, since more weight means more friction, however its not nearly as important as the coefficient of drag)

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
my Chrysler 300M has a V6.
The speed governer kicks in at 118 MPH, however the car *should* be capable of about 145mph given its Horsepower (253 HP @ 6400RPM) Torque (255 lb. -ft @ 3500RPM) and coefficient of drag ( 0.31).

Cruising at 118MPH, the car drives very smooth, and the gas pedal is only halfway depressed ...

Weight doen't really make too much of a difference when it comes to top speed (well it is important, since more weight means more friction, however its not nearly as important as the coefficient of drag)

Had my stepdad's 300m sans governor at 165 with room to go.... that car was quite a paradox, let me tell you :beer:

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
The BMW 2.5 I6 takes up more space than the 5.7L LS1 V8.


Superior huh? The I6 wouldn't fit in any V6 engine bay. The V6 on the other hand will fit in any I6 engine bay.

Because v6s are generally transversally mounted.... FWD.

You can use V6s in both FWD, RWD and AWD applications. You can't say the same for I6s.

Sure I can. I6s can be used in all those applications. It's just that no one makes a FWD i6 because i6s are now only produced by good car companies, and those companies wouldn't touch FWD with a 10 foot inline 6 block.

 

[Crucial]

Originally posted by: Captain_Howdy

Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix

Originally posted by: OS
are you taking all V6s in general or just the crappy one they put in mustangs?

any V6 you know of.... of course they dont all compare directly, but ive never heard of one that had torque and power comparable to a nice big V8

This comes to mind...
V6 with V8 power.

😀

Nuff said.

OMGWTFBBQ!

 

[eLiu]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
I think that there's no way that any V6 can push hard enough to break 120 mph....

I can do that in my 92 accord 4 cylinder.

I can reach 120mph on a 5-cyl turbodiesel...it made 120hp total, and the car it was pulling weighed more than 2 tons.

 

[Kroze]

my brother in law's 92 prelude hit 110 easily too, but he stopped after that. the car is only 4 cylinder 160hp 160lbs torque

 

[aircooled]

Hell, my old '88 4-banger Sentra would hit 100+mph, a good V6 will surely hit 120+.

edit I like a flat 6 personally 200+mph 🙂

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Had my stepdad's 300m sans governor at 165 with room to go.... that car was quite a paradox, let me tell you :beer:

That had to be speedometer error - I can't see how a car that large and heavy could achieve 165 bhp with only 253 bhp. That would make it one of the fastest sedans in the world.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Had my stepdad's 300m sans governor at 165 with room to go.... that car was quite a paradox, let me tell you :beer:

That had to be speedometer error - I can't see how a car that large and heavy could achieve 165 bhp with only 253 bhp. That would make it one of the fastest sedans in the world.

Mass is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to top speed.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Had my stepdad's 300m sans governor at 165 with room to go.... that car was quite a paradox, let me tell you :beer:

That had to be speedometer error - I can't see how a car that large and heavy could achieve 165 bhp with only 253 bhp. That would make it one of the fastest sedans in the world.

very well could have been, but going down a hill at about 5 degree grade, thorottle wide open without the governor, I had no problem at all getting to that... took between a 3/4ths a mile and a mile to get there, but I did it.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Doesn't matter if the Mustang V-6 is governed or not, it won't stay close enough to a V-8 'Stang to even read its license plate.

As far as V-6's in general, the definitive answer is, no, you can't build one to be better than a larger V-8 with the same type of mods done to it.
There's not even any debate, it just can't be done.

Sure, you can build a V-6 to be more powerful than a lesser-modified V-8, but as far as potential goes, the larger engine is ultimately capable of pumping more air, and that's what making power is all about.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Had my stepdad's 300m sans governor at 165 with room to go.... that car was quite a paradox, let me tell you :beer:

That had to be speedometer error - I can't see how a car that large and heavy could achieve 165 bhp with only 253 bhp. That would make it one of the fastest sedans in the world.

Mass is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to top speed.

Where the hell did you get that idea? Do you actually believe that I could add 10 100 pound cinder blocks to my car and still be able to reach the same top speed?

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Doesn't matter if the Mustang V-6 is governed or not, it won't stay close enough to a V-8 'Stang to even read its license plate.

As far as V-6's in general, the definitive answer is, no, you can't build one to be better than a larger V-8 with the same type of mods done to it.
There's not even any debate, it just can't be done.

Sure, you can build a V-6 to be more powerful than a lesser-modified V-8, but as far as potential goes, the larger engine is ultimately capable of pumping more air, and that's what making power is all about.

Wait, are you saying "there's no replacement for".... what was that word.... Cheese fries?

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Had my stepdad's 300m sans governor at 165 with room to go.... that car was quite a paradox, let me tell you :beer:

That had to be speedometer error - I can't see how a car that large and heavy could achieve 165 bhp with only 253 bhp. That would make it one of the fastest sedans in the world.

Mass is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to top speed.

Wrong. Ever think about what more weight does to your tires? Causes more friction. Requires more power to overcome said friction.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Had my stepdad's 300m sans governor at 165 with room to go.... that car was quite a paradox, let me tell you :beer:

That had to be speedometer error - I can't see how a car that large and heavy could achieve 165 bhp with only 253 bhp. That would make it one of the fastest sedans in the world.

Mass is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to top speed.

😕

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Doesn't matter if the Mustang V-6 is governed or not, it won't stay close enough to a V-8 'Stang to even read its license plate.

As far as V-6's in general, the definitive answer is, no, you can't build one to be better than a larger V-8 with the same type of mods done to it.
There's not even any debate, it just can't be done.

Sure, you can build a V-6 to be more powerful than a lesser-modified V-8, but as far as potential goes, the larger engine is ultimately capable of pumping more air, and that's what making power is all about.

Wait, are you saying "there's no replacement for".... what was that word.... Cheese fries?

No replacement for displacement. The larger engine ALWAYS will make more power, given the same type of mods.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Doesn't matter if the Mustang V-6 is governed or not, it won't stay close enough to a V-8 'Stang to even read its license plate.

As far as V-6's in general, the definitive answer is, no, you can't build one to be better than a larger V-8 with the same type of mods done to it.
There's not even any debate, it just can't be done.

Sure, you can build a V-6 to be more powerful than a lesser-modified V-8, but as far as potential goes, the larger engine is ultimately capable of pumping more air, and that's what making power is all about.

Wait, are you saying "there's no replacement for".... what was that word.... Cheese fries?

No replacement for displacement. The larger engine ALWAYS will make more power, given the same type of mods.

Are you sure, because "There's no replacement for cheese fries" seems to flow better...

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Doesn't matter if the Mustang V-6 is governed or not, it won't stay close enough to a V-8 'Stang to even read its license plate.

As far as V-6's in general, the definitive answer is, no, you can't build one to be better than a larger V-8 with the same type of mods done to it.
There's not even any debate, it just can't be done.

Sure, you can build a V-6 to be more powerful than a lesser-modified V-8, but as far as potential goes, the larger engine is ultimately capable of pumping more air, and that's what making power is all about.

Wait, are you saying "there's no replacement for".... what was that word.... Cheese fries?

No replacement for displacement. The larger engine ALWAYS will make more power, given the same type of mods.

Are you sure, because "There's no replacement for cheese fries" seems to flow better...

Hmm. Well, there's certainly no replacement for the cheese fries at Lone Star Steakhouse....they are awesome. 😉

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Doesn't matter if the Mustang V-6 is governed or not, it won't stay close enough to a V-8 'Stang to even read its license plate.

As far as V-6's in general, the definitive answer is, no, you can't build one to be better than a larger V-8 with the same type of mods done to it.
There's not even any debate, it just can't be done.

Sure, you can build a V-6 to be more powerful than a lesser-modified V-8, but as far as potential goes, the larger engine is ultimately capable of pumping more air, and that's what making power is all about.

Wait, are you saying "there's no replacement for".... what was that word.... Cheese fries?

No replacement for displacement. The larger engine ALWAYS will make more power, given the same type of mods.

Are you sure, because "There's no replacement for cheese fries" seems to flow better...

Hmm. Well, there's certainly no replacement for the cheese fries at Lone Star Steakhouse....they are awesome. 😉

You have to drive there in your 8.3L v10 Dodge Viper though. 😉

Wierdness on cars.yahoo.com though:
The 2004 Viper is a 2-door, 2-passenger convertible sports car, available in one trim only, the SRT-10. The 2004 Viper's closest competitors include the Audi S4, the Lexus SC 430, and the Porsche Boxster.

Strange competitors the Viper has. They're comparable in neither price nor performance.

 

[Templeton]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Had my stepdad's 300m sans governor at 165 with room to go.... that car was quite a paradox, let me tell you :beer:

That had to be speedometer error - I can't see how a car that large and heavy could achieve 165 bhp with only 253 bhp. That would make it one of the fastest sedans in the world.

Mass is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to top speed.

Wrong. Ever think about what more weight does to your tires? Causes more friction. Requires more power to overcome said friction.

No, he's pretty much right. Weight definitely has an effect on rolling resistance, but when talking about top speed, the power lost to this is many times smaller then the power needed to overcome air resistance. Adding a few hundred pounds to a car, while not modifying its drag coefficient in any way, will result in it having almost as high of a top speed, it'll simply take longer to get there.

 

[Templeton]

good site on the subject... it's down right now, so a google cache will have to do.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
The BMW 2.5 I6 takes up more space than the 5.7L LS1 V8.


Superior huh? The I6 wouldn't fit in any V6 engine bay. The V6 on the other hand will fit in any I6 engine bay.

Because v6s are generally transversally mounted.... FWD.

You can use V6s in both FWD, RWD and AWD applications. You can't say the same for I6s.

Sure I can. I6s can be used in all those applications. It's just that no one makes a FWD i6 because i6s are now only produced by good car companies, and those companies wouldn't touch FWD with a 10 foot inline 6 block.

Name one FWD or AWD car that has an I6. I can't think of any.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
The BMW 2.5 I6 takes up more space than the 5.7L LS1 V8.


Superior huh? The I6 wouldn't fit in any V6 engine bay. The V6 on the other hand will fit in any I6 engine bay.

Because v6s are generally transversally mounted.... FWD.

You can use V6s in both FWD, RWD and AWD applications. You can't say the same for I6s.

Sure I can. I6s can be used in all those applications. It's just that no one makes a FWD i6 because i6s are now only produced by good car companies, and those companies wouldn't touch FWD with a 10 foot inline 6 block.

Name one FWD or AWD car that has an I6. I can't think of any.

BMW 330xi.