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uTorrent

MBrown

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I havent opened up a port on my router becuase I figured the UPnP thing past that which it seemed to with a couple other things. I am downloaded FC5 which is 3GB large which 8 seeds and ETA is 13hrs right now and its 19.2% complete. Should it be taking this long? Do I have to actually open up a port or what ever it is you do to make it go faster?
 
Originally posted by: MBrown
I havent opened up a port on my router becuase I figured the UPnP thing past that which it seemed to with a couple other things. I am downloaded FC5 which is 3GB large which 8 seeds and ETA is 13hrs right now and its 19.2% complete. Should it be taking this long? Do I have to actually open up a port or what ever it is you do to make it go faster?

What kind of connection do you have?

Opening ports won't make it go faster if the torrent is already maxing out your connection.

In other words, we don't know if 13 hrs. for 80% of 3GBs is 'too slow' if we don't know how big your bandwith is.

 
8 seeds and how many peers. If there's only 8 seeds uploading to a ton of peers, yeah, it's going to take a really long time (unless they're really good seeders).

Goto the speedcheck in utorrent and do a port check, it will tell you if everything is being forwarded properly.
 
I have DSL so it shouldnt be too slow. right now its 33.6% done 13 seeds 24 peers and around 7 hours ETA. I know this should be faster that what its doing. Thats the whole point of torrents is for it to be faster.
 
Ok. I followed the instructions exactly on how to foward a port and when I went to go see if the port would foward properly it failed. Whats next?

Edit: Found my mistake and it passed, but its still taking forever.
 
download speed is around 35kB/s and upload speed is around 90kB/s I have DSL so it should be downloading around 300k correct? I'd like to point out that earlier I downloaded a kororaa liveCD torrent and it was around 300k 290k download speed at times and now while trying to download FC5, just browsing the internet is sluggish.
 
Originally posted by: MBrown
download speed is around 35kB/s and upload speed is around 90kB/s I have DSL so it should be downloading around 300k correct?

Try lowering your upload speed. It's said that upload speed should never be more than 90% of the max it's capable of.
If I was to guess that seems like the problem you are having.

Let me know if that works


 
Bitcomet is truly faster than utorrent. Try it out on the same torrents (shutdown utorrent and then open the same torrents into bitcomet. make sure to "save" them into the same folder that you did for utorrent and itll auto-detect how far along you were and then begin downloading.) Forward the correct ports and I promise you you will be downloading faster.
 
Originally posted by: biggiesmallz
Originally posted by: MBrown
download speed is around 35kB/s and upload speed is around 90kB/s I have DSL so it should be downloading around 300k correct?

Try lowering your upload speed. It's said that upload speed should never be more than 90% of the max it's capable of.
If I was to guess that seems like the problem you are having.

Let me know if that works

That did help. I put the upload max to 20 and the downloads went up to 70. should I try lowering the uploads even more?
 
Originally posted by: MangoTBG
Bitcomet is truly faster than utorrent. Try it out on the same torrents (shutdown utorrent and then open the same torrents into bitcomet. make sure to "save" them into the same folder that you did for utorrent and itll auto-detect how far along you were and then begin downloading.) Forward the correct ports and I promise you you will be downloading faster.

How is it any faster than utorrent. Arent I going to be getting the pieces from the same seeds in utorrent?
 
Originally posted by: MBrown
Originally posted by: biggiesmallz
Originally posted by: MBrown
download speed is around 35kB/s and upload speed is around 90kB/s I have DSL so it should be downloading around 300k correct?

Try lowering your upload speed. It's said that upload speed should never be more than 90% of the max it's capable of.
If I was to guess that seems like the problem you are having.

Let me know if that works

That did help. I put the upload max to 20 and the downloads went up to 70. should I try lowering the uploads even more?


The thing is if you max out your upload speed it fvcks up your download speed bad.

But on my bit torrent client it says that download speed is proportional to your upload rate.

So I just set my upload rate to 90% of the max it is capable of.
The max I am capable of is 45kB/s so I just set it to about 40kB/s.

You can just play around with it and find out which works best for you.

From what I understand if max upload speed is set to low your download speeds suffer and if it is set higher than 90% of max it also messes up download speed.
 
Originally posted by: MBrown
download speed is around 35kB/s and upload speed is around 90kB/s I have DSL so it should be downloading around 300k correct? I'd like to point out that earlier I downloaded a kororaa liveCD torrent and it was around 300k 290k download speed at times and now while trying to download FC5, just browsing the internet is sluggish.

You're missing the whole concept of Bittorrent. Yes, the speeds can be very fast, but it depends on a number of factors.

The torrent you're on has a has a 1:2 seeder to peer ratio, which means that there isn't a lot of upstream bandwidth to go around. Let's say each seeder is uploading at 40Kps, multiply that by 14 seeders and that gives you 540K. Divide that by the 24 peers and that gives you 22.5Kbps.

Now, I'm obviously over simplifying what's going on, but I'd say getting 70K on your torrent isn't bad at all.
 
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: MBrown
download speed is around 35kB/s and upload speed is around 90kB/s I have DSL so it should be downloading around 300k correct? I'd like to point out that earlier I downloaded a kororaa liveCD torrent and it was around 300k 290k download speed at times and now while trying to download FC5, just browsing the internet is sluggish.

You're missing the whole concept of Bittorrent. Yes, the speeds can be very fast, but it depends on a number of factors.

The torrent you're on has a has a 1:2 seeder to peer ratio, which means that there isn't a lot of upstream bandwidth to go around. Let's say each seeder is uploading at 40Kps, multiply that by 14 seeders and that gives you 540K. Divide that by the 24 peers and that gives you 22.5Kbps.

Now, I'm obviously over simplifying what's going on, but I'd say getting 70K on your torrent isn't bad at all.


Actually everyone uploads to and downloads from each other if they a part of the file that someone else needs.
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I switched to BitComet after using uTorrent, even though I liked the uTorrent interface better. I simply got much better dl speeds on BitComet.
 
Originally posted by: MBrown
Originally posted by: biggiesmallz
Originally posted by: MBrown
download speed is around 35kB/s and upload speed is around 90kB/s I have DSL so it should be downloading around 300k correct?

Try lowering your upload speed. It's said that upload speed should never be more than 90% of the max it's capable of.
If I was to guess that seems like the problem you are having.

Let me know if that works

That did help. I put the upload max to 20 and the downloads went up to 70. should I try lowering the uploads even more?

Um no, don't lower it any more. The reason why you were getting such low speeds with maxed out upload, is because when it comes to downloading, there is some uploading traffic. When you receive a packet, your computer sends a packet back to the other computer telling them you've received it successfully. Because your upload was maxed actually uploading things, you were constraining your ability to download. All you really needed to do is lowered the max upload by about 5kb/s, and your downloads wouldn't be affected any longer.

Torrents are all about sharing. If nobody shares, or if everybody is sharing at like 2kb/s per file like they do on edonkey/emule, it takes forever to get anything. I remember when the edonkey community first began and i use to get maxed speeds on every download. Now, i rub one off when i can get 25kb/s off a single file.
 
Did you restart uTorrent after you opened the port? Make sure that uTorrent is set to use the port that you opened.
 
Heh it's not great either.

It all depends on how much others are sharing.

If everyone sharing has their upload speed capped to something slow, it takes forever.

If not though, then it's great.
 
Originally posted by: Motek
Newsgroups download way faster than torrents!


Incorrect.

If you always get a fast source, i imagine that newsgroups might have more consistent speeds.

But with good torrent sources, you'll max out your connection also though.
 
utorrent will download as fast as any other bittorrent prog.
You have to coax it a bit though.

I have maxed out my cable connection using it.
If you google utorrent tweaks, you'll find the advanced settings that need changed. (max connections for XP as well.)

I always limit the number of connections uploading to 3 or 4. That way whoever is giving me good download speed gets it as well.

All that said, The best part about utorrent is it's efficiency.
Nothing better than I nice compact program that gets everything you need done without dragging everything else down.

I have a download going on right now and have been gaming while it does it's thing in the background.

BTW- around the same time I switched from BitComet to utorrent there was a lot of talk about Bitcomet being banned from trackers. Apparently it was ignoring the private flag and sharing over DHT.
Not sure if this was resolved.
 
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