USPS ripped me off

[Vette73]

Have you filed a police report yet? Also contact the national postal office.

 

[hclarkjr]

are you sure it is not somebody at your business messing with you?

 

[God Mode]

Originally posted by: kranky
I would request a face-to-face meeting with your local postmaster, explain the circumstances:
1. You are the only person there who could sign for a package.
2. You verified the delivery address was correct.
3. You have had 3 packages undelivered from two different shippers but somehow they are being signed for.

Then ask how he/she knows for certain the delivery person isn't taking your packages, and ask what you can do to ensure you are receiving your packages.

It won't get your packages back but the postmaster will look into it simply because you took the time to meet about the situation and it will generate a response. It may trigger a discussion with the delivery person and that might be enough to solve it IF that's who is taking your packages.

However, if you AREN'T the only person who might be signing for them, I would change the policy so that you are. I know you think it can't be someone in the store, but people can be very clever. It would be better to just make sure if a package gets to the store, it went into your hands only.

I talked to the postmaster and whoever else I can. They said someone signed for it.

Its up to me to find out who has my packages. I'm not able to meet directly with the person that delivered the packages.

USPS dont have accommodations to have all packages signed specifically by me. The same with UPS and fedex, as long as someone at the delivery address signed for it, its up to me to find out who has it. This is impossible if the packages werent delivered in the first place and if the mail carrier claims that it was correctly delivered.

The workers in my store are like family. This is something that cant be proved or explained with words.

Bottom line, I'm 110% certain that no packages were ever delivered on those dates. Someone used my name to sign for them. Its very convenient for USPS to have such a policy like this.

 

[hclarkjr]

think of it though, 3 packages even FEDEX and UPS could not screw up 3 times like that. i say somebody is messing with you. i deal with packages every day where i work and accept deliveries from all 3 and am having a hard time imaging 3 packages not making it to you. who else signs for packages at your place?

 

[God Mode]

Originally posted by: hclarkjr
think of it though, 3 packages even FEDEX and UPS could not screw up 3 times like that. i say somebody is messing with you. i deal with packages every day where i work and accept deliveries from all 3 and am having a hard time imaging 3 packages not making it to you. who else signs for packages at your place?

Historically, no one else signs for packages except me. If the package is addressed to someone else in the store, the mail person is pointed to that person and they sign for it themselves. This and many other reasons is why I think the delivery guy is BS.

I do think somone is messing with me. Namely, the USPS employee that is flat out lying.

On a related note, my regular mailman of 10 years who never made a mistake was recently replaced. God I miss him. These days, I've seen 3 different faces delivering regular mail/letters. I've tried to approach 1 person but they ignored me and told me to contact the post office.

 

[newnameman]

Sounds like you have a theiving employee at your store.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: God Mode

Originally posted by: hclarkjr
think of it though, 3 packages even FEDEX and UPS could not screw up 3 times like that. i say somebody is messing with you. i deal with packages every day where i work and accept deliveries from all 3 and am having a hard time imaging 3 packages not making it to you. who else signs for packages at your place?

Historically, no one else signs for packages except me. If the package is addressed to someone else in the store, the mail person is pointed to that person and they sign for it themselves. This and many other reasons is why I think the delivery guy is BS.

I do think somone is messing with me. Namely, the USPS employee that is flat out lying.

On a related note, my regular mailman of 10 years who never made a mistake was recently replaced. God I miss him. These days, I've seen 3 different faces delivering regular mail/letters. I've tried to approach 1 person but they ignored me and told me to contact the post office.

Thing is USPS packages are delivered by the mailman. I strongly doubt you are personally handed your mail each and everyday.

I wonder what the real story is here. Regardless though, it's really up to the shipper to investigate a shipment not the one it was delivered to.

 

[lxskllr]

What was in the package? Is it worth stealing?

 

[dud]

Oh please stop the whining!

 

[God Mode]

Originally posted by: newnameman
Sounds like you have a theiving employee at your store.

I open the store and I'm at the front of the store the entire time period that it was supposedly delivered. No one gets in or out without me seeing them. Period.

Its physically impossible to steal a package of any size. Telling me that one of the employees are stealing my stuff is convenient for anyone besides myself.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Thing is USPS packages are delivered by the mailman. I strongly doubt you are personally handed your mail each and everyday.

I wonder what the real story is here. Regardless though, it's really up to the shipper to investigate a shipment not the one it was delivered to.

I have no mailbox. The mail IS handed to me everyday. Also, the person that delivers regular mail and packages (if over 1 pound) are different people.

If you were the shipper and you already sent a replacement package only for the same thing to happen, usps sent you a faxed copy of the delivery signature AND the person that delivered supposedly said that there was no mistake in delivering the package, would you be willing to help me? All signs point that I'm the thief here and its pissing me off.

Originally posted by: lxskllr
What was in the package? Is it worth stealing?

PC parts and the other single missing package was medicine.

I'm tired of explaining the same BS to any of the postal workers that I talk to. I wouldn't blame any outside party that thinks I'm lying. Ugh.

 

[lxskllr]

Is your business address clearly marked, and obviously your store? Maybe he's delivering next door, and one of those employees are stealing it.

 

[mcmilljb]

What were the retailers of the 3 packages?

 

[God Mode]

Originally posted by: lxskllr
Is your business address clearly marked, and obviously your store? Maybe he's delivering next door, and one of those employees are stealing it.

This is the first time I'm having a problem with a missing or stolen anything at my business address. The only place directly next to my store is a deli and a church. Why would it be delivered to the wrong address 3 times in a row? Why would it be signed by someone using my name?

The mail deliverer is incompetent or is a blatant thief and USPS from my perspective dont give a rats ass or they cant be bothered to investigate one of their employees.

Telling me that I'm responsible or that someone in my store is taking my stuff is a convenient excuse that could be given to anyone having similar problems.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: God Mode

Originally posted by: lxskllr
Is your business address clearly marked, and obviously your store? Maybe he's delivering next door, and one of those employees are stealing it.

This is the first time I'm having a problem with a missing or stolen anything at my business address. The only place directly next to my store is a deli and a church. Why would it be delivered to the wrong address 3 times in a row? Why would it be signed by someone using my name?

The mail deliverer is incompetent or is a blatant thief and USPS from my perspective dont give a rats ass or they cant be bothered to investigate one of their employees.

Telling me that I'm responsible or that someone in my store is taking my stuff is a convenient excuse that could be given to anyone having similar problems.

YES YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT. There you go. That's the only option. Go and get a copy of the signature and prove that it isn't yours. That's all you can do.

Whining that you shouldn't have won't solve the problem. Now as to changing USPS's long term policy, perhaps suggest it to them AFTER proving them that you did not sign for those packages.

 

[tboo]

Did you pay by credit card?

If so, Id dispute the charges.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: tboo
Did you pay by credit card?

If so, Id dispute the charges.

His beef isn't with the retailer, it's with the USPS.

 

[tboo]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: tboo
Did you pay by credit card?

If so, Id dispute the charges.

His beef isn't with the retailer, it's with the USPS.

Id still dispute the charges. I wouldnt pay for something I never received.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Did you receive your mail those days? Around that time of the supposed delivery?

 

[God Mode]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452


YES YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT. There you go. That's the only option. Go and get a copy of the signature and prove that it isn't yours. That's all you can do.

Whining that you shouldn't have won't solve the problem. Now as to changing USPS's long term policy, perhaps suggest it to them AFTER proving them that you did not sign for those packages.

First, it doesnt matter who signed for it as long as the mail person claims to have delivered it and "someone" signed for it. What will getting a copy of the signature do? Absolutely nothing. I've asked usps if the signature isnt mine, am I able to recoup the losses. Their answer was no.

My main complaint is that talking doesnt get me anywhere if they simply deny any wrong doing and they instead tell me to go take a hike and find out who has my package.

As long as the mail deliverer claims that he delivered it to said address and someone signed it, its totally on me to find out what happened. I've already stated that I'm 110% sure that NO PACKAGES ever came. This leaves me with no solution unless USPS investigates the problem.

I just wanted to let people know of this situation and most importantly, that insurance, signature confirmation and whatever else BS charge USPS has wont help you at all if the mailman denies any mistake and USPS isn't willing to investigate but instead trust the words of their mail deliverers without question.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: God Mode

Originally posted by: Praxis1452


YES YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT. There you go. That's the only option. Go and get a copy of the signature and prove that it isn't yours. That's all you can do.

Whining that you shouldn't have won't solve the problem. Now as to changing USPS's long term policy, perhaps suggest it to them AFTER proving them that you did not sign for those packages.

First, it doesnt matter who signed for it as long as the mail person claims to have delivered it and "someone" signed for it. What will getting a copy of the signature do? Absolutely nothing. I've asked usps if the signature isnt mine, am I able to recoup the losses. Their answer was no.

My main complaint is that talking doesnt get me anywhere if they simply deny any wrong doing and they instead tell me to go take a hike and find out who has my package.

As long as the mail deliverer claims that he delivered it to said address and someone signed it, its totally on me to find out what happened. I've already stated that I'm 110% sure that NO PACKAGES ever came. This leaves me with no solution unless USPS investigates the problem.

I just wanted to let people know of this situation and most importantly, that insurance, signature confirmation and whatever else BS charge USPS has wont help you at all if the mailman denies any mistake and USPS isn't willing to investigate but instead trust the words of their mail deliverers without question.

Set up a sting with the police and invite a local news crew.

 

[vhx]

Originally posted by: Newbian
Just have a bomb mailed to you from the same place and see what happens when the person opens it.

Perhaps something more legal? Where they open it and it triggers a fog horn and sprays blue dye everywhere. Follow the sound and find the person that looks like a Smurf.

 

[takeru]

Originally posted by: God Mode

Originally posted by: kranky
I would request a face-to-face meeting with your local postmaster, explain the circumstances:
1. You are the only person there who could sign for a package.
2. You verified the delivery address was correct.
3. You have had 3 packages undelivered from two different shippers but somehow they are being signed for.

Then ask how he/she knows for certain the delivery person isn't taking your packages, and ask what you can do to ensure you are receiving your packages.

It won't get your packages back but the postmaster will look into it simply because you took the time to meet about the situation and it will generate a response. It may trigger a discussion with the delivery person and that might be enough to solve it IF that's who is taking your packages.

However, if you AREN'T the only person who might be signing for them, I would change the policy so that you are. I know you think it can't be someone in the store, but people can be very clever. It would be better to just make sure if a package gets to the store, it went into your hands only.

I talked to the postmaster and whoever else I can. They said someone signed for it.

Its up to me to find out who has my packages. I'm not able to meet directly with the person that delivered the packages.

USPS dont have accommodations to have all packages signed specifically by me. The same with UPS and fedex, as long as someone at the delivery address signed for it, its up to me to find out who has it. This is impossible if the packages werent delivered in the first place and if the mail carrier claims that it was correctly delivered.

The workers in my store are like family. This is something that cant be proved or explained with words.

Bottom line, I'm 110% certain that no packages were ever delivered on those dates. Someone used my name to sign for them. Its very convenient for USPS to have such a policy like this.

this sounds pretty stupid to ask at this time, but you didn't answer this question at all throughout this thread....

did you verify the address on the actual package? you have a tracking number, did you have usps pull the address ON THE ACTUAL PACKAGE in their computer to make sure it matches your address correctly?

 

[tasmanian]

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner

Originally posted by: God Mode

Originally posted by: Praxis1452


YES YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT. There you go. That's the only option. Go and get a copy of the signature and prove that it isn't yours. That's all you can do.

Whining that you shouldn't have won't solve the problem. Now as to changing USPS's long term policy, perhaps suggest it to them AFTER proving them that you did not sign for those packages.

First, it doesnt matter who signed for it as long as the mail person claims to have delivered it and "someone" signed for it. What will getting a copy of the signature do? Absolutely nothing. I've asked usps if the signature isnt mine, am I able to recoup the losses. Their answer was no.

My main complaint is that talking doesnt get me anywhere if they simply deny any wrong doing and they instead tell me to go take a hike and find out who has my package.

As long as the mail deliverer claims that he delivered it to said address and someone signed it, its totally on me to find out what happened. I've already stated that I'm 110% sure that NO PACKAGES ever came. This leaves me with no solution unless USPS investigates the problem.

I just wanted to let people know of this situation and most importantly, that insurance, signature confirmation and whatever else BS charge USPS has wont help you at all if the mailman denies any mistake and USPS isn't willing to investigate but instead trust the words of their mail deliverers without question.

Set up a sting with the police and invite a local news crew.

Or have a gps transponder sent in a package, then follow where it goes.

 

[arkcom]

If it doesn't matter who signs for it, why do they even bother? "Hi, I have a package for John Doe, is that you?" *signs*

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: God Mode
godmode gets angry and explains situation to retailer.

godmode gets extra angry for these 2 missing packages and explains yet again to retailer.

So far, there are 3 missing USPS priority packages that were supposedly delivered and signed for by someone.

sounds like godmode needs some anger management issues.

i wouldn't help ya either if you're a screaming, raving lunatic.

also .. is it 2 packages or 3?
first you say 2.. then you say 3

which is it?

might wanna get your story straight first.