Has Windows progressed to the point that it has IPSEC? Wow. Time flies.[/quote]
win 2k server does. i believe that win 2k pro can be ipsec clients.
i could be completely off, i haven't implemented ipsec on a win2k server yet.
Has Windows progressed to the point that it has IPSEC? Wow. Time flies.[/quote]
win 2k server does. i believe that win 2k pro can be ipsec clients.
i could be completely off, i haven't implemented ipsec on a win2k server yet.
Has Windows progressed to the point that it has IPSEC? Wow. Time flies.[/quote]
It was released with Win 2k, but it's been available for a long time now for all Windows platforms (save for Win95).
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
and you've just destroyed your analogy.
You said AS EASY AND CHEAP, then you say I DON'T BUY CRAP.
IPSEC is easy and cheap. Unfortunately, it isn't included in these crappy home WAPs. There are plenty of FREE IPSEC implimentations.
Maybe, but why do things half assed?
i posted a scenario earlier where the ISP could come after the home owner with an unsecured network. If i have WEP enabled then they are less likely to come after me because i at least have made an attempt at security.
btw do you have a link to some of those IPSec implementations you are referring to. i'd like to try a few out.
OpenBSD has had IPSEC for quite a while now.
FreeS/WAN has been around for a while.
win 2k server does. i believe that win 2k pro can be ipsec clients.
i could be completely off, i haven't implemented ipsec on a win2k server yet.[/quote]
You are correct. Win 98+ boxen can be IPSec clients as well with a separate download. It might be as part of a Windows update these days, but I've been Win 9x sober for 400 days and counting *crosses fingers*
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
and you've just destroyed your analogy.
You said AS EASY AND CHEAP, then you say I DON'T BUY CRAP.
IPSEC is easy and cheap. Unfortunately, it isn't included in these crappy home WAPs. There are plenty of FREE IPSEC implimentations.
Maybe, but why do things half assed?
i posted a scenario earlier where the ISP could come after the home owner with an unsecured network. If i have WEP enabled then they are less likely to come after me because i at least have made an attempt at security.
btw do you have a link to some of those IPSec implementations you are referring to. i'd like to try a few out.
OpenBSD has had IPSEC for quite a while now.
FreeS/WAN has been around for a while.
ok. i know about those. i'm not sure how i would implement those for a client who has a Wireless Router (netgear/linksys type) and Windows clients.
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
and you've just destroyed your analogy.
You said AS EASY AND CHEAP, then you say I DON'T BUY CRAP.
IPSEC is easy and cheap. Unfortunately, it isn't included in these crappy home WAPs. There are plenty of FREE IPSEC implimentations.
Maybe, but why do things half assed?
i posted a scenario earlier where the ISP could come after the home owner with an unsecured network. If i have WEP enabled then they are less likely to come after me because i at least have made an attempt at security.
btw do you have a link to some of those IPSec implementations you are referring to. i'd like to try a few out.
OpenBSD has had IPSEC for quite a while now.
FreeS/WAN has been around for a while.
ok. i know about those. i'm not sure how i would implement those for a client who has a Wireless Router (netgear/linksys type) and Windows clients.
Don't know, I'm a unix geek
My solutions aren't for everyone, and WEP is better than posting your username/password on a billboard, but it is still a horrible solution. The committee that came up with it should be flogged with a wet noodle.
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Don't know, I'm a unix geek
My solutions aren't for everyone, and WEP is better than posting your username/password on a billboard, but it is still a horrible solution. The committee that came up with it should be flogged with a wet noodle.
so basically your just a punk that likes to criticize but offers no alternatives.
your a peach.
as i said It's better to set up WEP than nothing at all. i'm not sure why that is such a controversial statement. it's not like I'm the committee that came up with WEP, i just have to implement solutions for clients for whom UNIX variations ARE NOT an option.
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Don't know, I'm a unix geek
My solutions aren't for everyone, and WEP is better than posting your username/password on a billboard, but it is still a horrible solution. The committee that came up with it should be flogged with a wet noodle.
so basically your just a punk that likes to criticize but offers no alternatives.
your a peach.
I offered an alternative. Your environment may not be able to handle it.
Yep,
Its widely known that WEP is a very weak security protocol.
Sure, its better than nothing. Just barely though.
Its widely known that WEP is a very weak security protocol.
Sure, its better than nothing. Just barely though.
So wait, if I got a wireless router in place of my current one right now, then there would be no way to lock it down? Erm, sounds odd. I can limit only specific MACs, but people can find those, spoof and still get in?
Guess I will have to do some research before I buy anything.
Guess I will have to do some research before I buy anything.
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