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Jhhnn

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SJW's continue to prove each day that indeed there is no limit to stupidity :D Here's your daily dose of SJW stupidity.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=54640

If you use proper grammar, you use "an elite and increasingly outdated form of the English language". Correcting someone's use of grammar is racist!

It's just our daily dose of bigot baiting. You went for it, of course- hook, line & sinker.

Grammar nazis intend to belittle the person they're speaking to, thus diminishing the import of what that person has to say.

If it's not racist, why is it commonly used that way?

Do you go on about the butchery of the language by southern whites, or is that somehow different?
 

Moonbeam

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It's just our daily dose of bigot baiting. You went for it, of course- hook, line & sinker.

Grammar nazis intend to belittle the person they're speaking to, thus diminishing the import of what that person has to say.

If it's not racist, why is it commonly used that way?

Do you go on about the butchery of the language by southern whites, or is that somehow different?

You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat. I spent years and years in a torture chamber learning how to speak, No ignorant fucktard is going to shit on my cake.

Proper grammar is the mark of a person who has successfully completed societies highest levels of programming. It distinguishes the turds from the elite, and of course the turds having paid no dues, object strenuously with their guttural grunt speak. The whole point of achieving proficiency in anything is so you can look down on those who haven't.
 

WHAMPOM

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SJW's continue to prove each day that indeed there is no limit to stupidity :D Here's your daily dose of SJW stupidity.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=54640

If you use proper grammar, you use "an elite and increasingly outdated form of the English language". Correcting someone's use of grammar is racist!

Time to stop posting a second-hand opinion of an article without reading the original source yourself.
 

WHAMPOM

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It's just our daily dose of bigot baiting. You went for it, of course- hook, line & sinker.

Grammar nazis intend to belittle the person they're speaking to, thus diminishing the import of what that person has to say.

If it's not racist, why is it commonly used that way?

Do you go on about the butchery of the language by southern whites, or is that somehow different?

A poor self image with grammar their only source of superiority?
 

PokerGuy

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If it's not racist, why is it commonly used that way?

What kind of stupid "logic" is that? Grammar nazi's correct people on here all the time without any clue or consideration of the race of the poster. In fact, the race of the poster is usually not even known.

Do you go on about the butchery of the language by southern whites, or is that somehow different?

I have no idea what you're talking about, I'm not a grammar nazi, I rarely (if ever) correct anyone's use of grammar. Since when does proper grammar depend on race? Whether something is or is not proper grammar doesn't depend on race, that has nothing to do with it.
 

WHAMPOM

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First, it wasn't an article, it was a video. Second, I watched the video.

Why post about a video then? Can you admit it is completely worthless without any data to back it up? A plain old brain fart recorded just for the troll/trill of it?
 

PokerGuy

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Why post about a video then? Can you admit it is completely worthless without any data to back it up? A plain old brain fart recorded just for the troll/trill of it?

What are you babbling about? I linked to an article someone wrote about a video made by an idiot. I watched the video and read the article. Not sure what "data" you're looking for, it's basically comments about the statements she makes in the video.
 

Zaap

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What kind of stupid "logic" is that? Grammar nazi's correct people on here all the time without any clue or consideration of the race of the poster. In fact, the race of the poster is usually not even known.



I have no idea what you're talking about, I'm not a grammar nazi, I rarely (if ever) correct anyone's use of grammar. Since when does proper grammar depend on race? Whether something is or is not proper grammar doesn't depend on race, that has nothing to do with it.

You're encountering people so used to yelling 'racist!' at everyone about pretty much anything in attempt to silence debate, that expecting actual logic and reasoning from many is foolhardy.
 

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also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA0aKjY8K50
 

alien42

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You're encountering people so used to yelling 'racist!' at everyone about pretty much anything in attempt to silence debate, that expecting actual logic and reasoning from many is foolhardy.

there is no logic or reasoning in creating a thread linking "to an article someone wrote about a video made by an idiot" and then disparaging a large group of people unless you are a racist/bigot/POS.

pokerguy does it often so it shouldn't be a big surprise that he is a racist/bigot/POS.
 
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Condescending racism or learning opportunity? It all comes down to the way we perceive our "reality" and the subsequent choices we make. Our egos are frail...ripping us apart without regard for any of the consequences. And the really sad thing is that most don't have a fighting chance as they're completely clueless of the battle that rages within ourselves. I'm feeling a little philosophical today...if offended in some way, please forgive my indulgence.
 

Zaap

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there is no logic or reasoning in creating a thread linking "to an article someone wrote about a video made by an idiot" and then disparaging a large group of people unless you are a racist/bigot/POS.

pokerguy does it often so it shouldn't be a big surprise that he is a racist/bigot/POS.


So you "disprove" my point about people throwing out the racist charge illogically over virtually *everything*... after a post pokerguy responded to full of illogical charges of racism....


...by insisting he's racist for starting a thread.



Whoooooooooosh.....
 
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I finally watched the video...holy crap, what a fucking snob! She went to a lot of trouble to put this together and especially to bring race into her rant as well...is she really any different than the very people she's denigrating. The condescension and projection is strong with this one imo. But I did learn a little something in spite of all her horse shit.
 
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Charmonium

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She's right about the fact that grammar is constantly evolving. But there's a difference between believing something is "correct" and it actually being so. Take the last sentence for example. I shouldn't have started it with a conjunction. I did because a) I don't care and b) it's now considered accepted usage.

There are a lot of English rules that don't really make a lot of sense and SHOULD be simplified. Take who and whom for example. Does anyone really care about this any more. For the most part, no.

I do however object when simplification results in the impairment of the information content of the language. So for example, 'literally' really shouldn't be allowed to mean both 'literally' in the original sense and it's opposite. That literally leads to confusion. In most cases you can determine from the context what the speaker means but you shouldn't have to resort to context when the language can do the work for you.

Of course there are plenty of words that have ambiguity depending on the context but as a general rule those develop out of necessity - because no other existing word really captures what you want to say and spelling out exactly what you mean every time is too laborious and contorted.

So there are times when old rules need to be disposed of and other times where they serve a purpose. To start making blanket statements like those in the video, while there are some good points there, oversimplifying makes you look just as foolish as improper usage.
 

Rakehellion

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That's probably the opinion of someone who never went to a university.

For someone who's been to a university, I wouldn't go so far as to calling myself a grammer nazi but it does irritate me when I read something like..

"I will be their"
"They misunderestimated me"
"Is our children learning?"

Case in point. Grammar Nazis love to pick on grammar, but ignore proper spelling, capitalization, and punctuation.

There's a difference between being intelligent and being pedantic.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I speak and understand English, American, Southern and, Youts. However, when communicating by writing, I demand English.
 

interchange

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I finally watched the video...holy crap, what a fucking snob! She went to a lot of trouble to put this together and especially to bring race into her rant as well...is she really any different than the very people she's denigrating. The condescension and projection is strong with this one imo. But I did learn a little something in spite of all her horse shit.

Cool. Fascinating to agree with the premise that this behavior is used to discredit inappropriately and also to appreciate the hypocrisy in the condemnation.

If only more people saw that in themselves...
 

Jhhnn

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What kind of stupid "logic" is that? Grammar nazi's correct people on here all the time without any clue or consideration of the race of the poster. In fact, the race of the poster is usually not even known.



I have no idea what you're talking about, I'm not a grammar nazi, I rarely (if ever) correct anyone's use of grammar. Since when does proper grammar depend on race? Whether something is or is not proper grammar doesn't depend on race, that has nothing to do with it.

And now, a bit of coy denial. After using the SJW dog whistle of bigotry.

You're not as slick as you think you are.
 

DrPizza

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Sorry, but I don't care who you are, or whether you're white, black, yellow, red, green, brown, or purple - if your speech indicates that you had a very poor education, then on most topics I'd be concerned about enough to listen to other people's opinions, your opinion, formed by someone with a poor education, generally is meaningless. If it's meaningful, then it's likely that someone else who can articulate an idea in English will do so.

I see this all the time on Facebook community pages concerning the local area. E.g., they were putting in a couple of traffic circles and you would see posts like, "I seed da plans and aint no way a firtruck gunna get true dose interseckshuns." <--- I can't even spell bad enough or use poor enough English to do it justice. And, oh, really? The engineers with college degrees didn't think of firetrucks driving down the road? (The majority of the morons are white in this area, so don't even go there.)
 

Charmonium

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Sorry, but I don't care who you are, or whether you're white, black, yellow, red, green, brown, or purple - if your speech indicates that you had a very poor education, then on most topics I'd be concerned about enough to listen to other people's opinions, your opinion, formed by someone with a poor education, generally is meaningless. If it's meaningful, then it's likely that someone else who can articulate an idea in English will do so.
I hate to say it, but that's almost always true. Intelligence can exist apart from being articulate but the two are highly correlated. So it shouldn't be too much of a surprise when people do in fact judge the book by the cover. To extend the analogy, if you see a trashy romance scene on the cover of a book, you're not going to read it expecting Kierkegaard or Wittgenstein.

I really hate that we have these sorts of biases because I know that people take one look at me and the way I dress and form an opinion of me that doesn't relate to who I am. But it's just another way that humans try to simplify their lives - with these subconscious shortcuts and rules of thumb. We use them because more times than not, they tend to be useful.
 
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jackstar7

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Case in point. Grammar Nazis love to pick on grammar, but ignore proper spelling, capitalization, and punctuation.

There's a difference between being intelligent and being pedantic.

Don't throw pedantry around here. A couple of posters don't even know what it means and think it has something to do with touching kids.
 

Subyman

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I enjoy hearing other dialects and pronunciations of words. I never understood why people feel the way they say it is better. Perhaps people that misuse verb tense or slur words are collectively less intelligent, but it doesn't necessarily make one more intelligent to correct them, it just makes them an ass.