Used car with only 9 miles on it?

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Gilligansdingy

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I worked at a dealership in washington state for a while as a car salemen bak in '99. We sold NEW cars that were 4 years older then the current model. The car is new until titled. We even sold new cars with 5k plus miles on it. The 3 year 36000 mile warranty didnt start until the car was sold.

On a side note, the owner of the dealership still had 2 brand new 1979 and 1981 Pontiac Firebirds. One had 11 miles on it and the other had 13 miles on it. They were spectacular!
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
then show us a link dickface or STFU "MR. I sold cars for a living".

Look at the child. Nice response. ;) And take the other guy's suggestion about the midol..seriously, grow up.

Titleship doesn't dictate whether a car can be considered new or used. I'm looking for the specific laws dictating the sale. Dealerships that sell previous model years as new are in violation of the law. ;)

And for the guy that said he works at a dealership, janitors don't count. :)

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Ronin
Umm...yes, there is. You can't sell a previous model year as new, regardless of it's condition (I don't care if it just came off the truck).

It's misrepresentation otherwise.

you are so wrong on this, it's stupid. A car is NEW until it has been titled. I have even seen cars TWO years old being sold as new that dealers just couldn't sell.

even a car with several thousand miles can be sold as NEW

Sold cars for a living once upon a time. Stop being an idiot, or just read your own sig.

And that article is a nice ton of sh!t. ;) You done yet?

Try growing up some and presenting coherent arguments before going off on someone while you're at it.

ok. I have owned a few car lots (well like 20% of each) and my family has owned dealerships for maybe 50 years.

YOU ARE WRONG.

it is NEW until it is titled.
 

Gilligansdingy

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Originally posted by: Gilligansdingy
I worked at a dealership in washington state for a while as a car salemen bak in '99. We sold NEW cars that were 4 years older then the current model. The car is new until titled. We even sold new cars with 5k plus miles on it. The 3 year 36000 mile warranty didnt start until the car was sold.

On a side note, the owner of the dealership still had 2 brand new 1979 and 1981 Pontiac Firebirds. One had 11 miles on it and the other had 13 miles on it. They were spectacular!

Just called the dealership and they said the 2 firebirds sold last year on ebay for around $45k each.
 

allisolm

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Titleship doesn't dictate whether a car can be considered new or used. I'm looking for the specific laws dictating the sale. Dealerships that sell previous model years as new are in violation of the law. ;)

According to Florida law:

"New motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle the equitable or legal title to which has never been transferred by a manufacturer, distributor, importer, or dealer to an ultimate purchaser

So title DOES determine new or used in Florida.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0319/SEC001.HTM&Title=->2006->Ch0319->Section%20001#0319.001">Link to FL Statutes Title XXIII Chapter 319 Definitions #8
</a>

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: allisolm
Originally posted by: Ronin
Titleship doesn't dictate whether a car can be considered new or used. I'm looking for the specific laws dictating the sale. Dealerships that sell previous model years as new are in violation of the law. ;)

According to Florida law:

"New motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle the equitable or legal title to which has never been transferred by a manufacturer, distributor, importer, or dealer to an ultimate purchaser

So title DOES determine new or used in Florida.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0319/SEC001.HTM&Title=->2006->Ch0319->Section%20001#0319.001">Link to FL Statutes Title XXIII Chapter 319 Definitions #8
</a>

of course it does.

Dealerships would be out millions a year if they couldnt sell a 06 vehicle as new in 07. There is no way they could stay in business if they had to sell it as used.
 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Umm...yes, there is. You can't sell a previous model year as new, regardless of it's condition (I don't care if it just came off the truck).

It's misrepresentation otherwise.

huh? Don't know where you got this idea. New car until it has been titled for the first time.

 

BillyBatson

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as long as the title is clean (not salvaged from a crash as they left the dealer lot lol), engine miles are not original and not rebuilt, then who cares? if the price is good
and yeah i think you can't sell a car as new after a certain amount of time. say you had a 1985 toyota corolla that sat ont he back lot of a dealer for the last 22 years, i don't thinkt hey could sell it as new lol
 

allisolm

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: allisolm
Originally posted by: Ronin
Titleship doesn't dictate whether a car can be considered new or used. I'm looking for the specific laws dictating the sale. Dealerships that sell previous model years as new are in violation of the law. ;)
According to Florida law:
"New motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle the equitable or legal title to which has never been transferred by a manufacturer, distributor, importer, or dealer to an ultimate purchaser

So title DOES determine new or used in Florida.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0319/SEC001.HTM&Title=->2006->Ch0319->Section%20001#0319.001">Link to FL Statutes Title XXIII Chapter 319 Definitions #8
</a>
of course it does.

Dealerships would be out millions a year if they couldnt sell a 06 vehicle as new in 07. There is no way they could stay in business if they had to sell it as used.
You know it's true and I know it's true and MikeyIs4Dcats and Baloo and slimrhcp and Gilligansdingy and bctbct know it. Ronin, on the other hand...

 

ElFenix

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texas transportation code section 501.002:
(15) "New motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle that
has not been the subject of a first sale.
(5) "First sale" means:
(A) the bargain, sale, transfer, or delivery of a
motor vehicle that has not been previously registered or licensed,
with intent to pass an interest in the motor vehicle, other than a
lien, regardless of where the bargain, sale, transfer, or delivery
occurred; and
(B) the registration or licensing of that
vehicle.
 

IronWing

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The car might be a take-back that had been titled before the return. Basically dealers will let a buyer drive off with a car (with deposit of course) before the bank loan is fully approved. If the financing falls through and the buyer therefore can't pay for the car, the dealer takes it back, charging for miles and days used.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
texas transportation code section 501.002:
(15) "New motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle that
has not been the subject of a first sale.
(5) "First sale" means:
(A) the bargain, sale, transfer, or delivery of a
motor vehicle that has not been previously registered or licensed,
with intent to pass an interest in the motor vehicle, other than a
lien, regardless of where the bargain, sale, transfer, or delivery
occurred; and
(B) the registration or licensing of that
vehicle.


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so roning what now?
 
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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
then show us a link dickface or STFU "MR. I sold cars for a living".

Look at the child. Nice response. ;) And take the other guy's suggestion about the midol..seriously, grow up.

Titleship doesn't dictate whether a car can be considered new or used. I'm looking for the specific laws dictating the sale. Dealerships that sell previous model years as new are in violation of the law. ;)

And for the guy that said he works at a dealership, janitors don't count. :)


look back at your posts...you started the name calling and personal attacks....I just finished them. And you still were proven wrong by multiple people yet refuse to admit it....who needs to grow up and make better arguments?