USA -> Terrorists ?

[Sabbathian]

Have anyone though about that idea ?

What do you think about it ? I mean.... sending a whole army into other country without any REAL or comfirmed reason ?
Killing people and destroying the country ..... I call that terrorism, and anybody who thinks that it is ok, is a bit too much
of a American. I don`t have anything against USA itself and against its citizens, but USAs politics really messed up....
It`s great to be big and powerfull and showing it to everybody, but then there will always be idiots who are ready
to get into the plane and crash it into the building.......

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Sabbathian
Have anyone though about that idea ?

What do you think about it ? I mean.... sending a whole army into other country without any REAL or comfirmed reason ?
Killing people and destroying the country ..... I call that terrorism, and anybody who thinks that it is ok, is a bit too much
of a American. I don`t have anything against USA itself and against its citizens, but USAs politics really messed up....
It`s great to be big and powerfull and showing it to everybody, but then there will always be idiots who are ready
to get into the plane and crash it into the building.......

Every countries politics are screwed up. Take Croatia for instance. What kind of country would ally itself with Nazi Germany?

 

[Sabbathian]

Wrong ....... Only "ustase" have allided with Nazy`s and they had really stupid
ideas, and Croatian people were against them, couse they war barbarians.
The thing you said is just a small fragment of history, and you should not dig
into it...... couse most of the world heard of Croatia through Football, basketball
and war.....

 

[arsbanned]

The thing you said is just a small fragment of history, and you should not dig

Yeah, stay away from that history stuff, you need to focus on the idea that the U.S.= terrorists.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Where were you when I had to travel into Bosnia and Herzegovina to stop the 'ethnic cleansing' from spilling over into your country? Please name one contribution your country has made to the world and what you are doing to improve the human condition...

 

[Sabbathian]

I just asked for opinion, and yes.... attack is best defense .......

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Sabbathian
I just asked for opinion, and yes.... attack is best defense .......

No more questions, your honor; I rest my case.

 

[Sabbathian]

Then you should have visited Croatia from 1991 until 1996 to see what is ethnic cleansing,
and BiH have not been cleansed becouse Croatian army went in there ... and UN, SFOR haven`t
done a thing ..... Remember Vukovar ?

Please, I haven`t mentioned Croatia in my post, I just wanted to know what people think
about USAs politics about Iraq, Vietnam etc. etc...... And if you can`t say anything smart
about that, then don`t write at all insted of writing "Croatia this, Croatia that"

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Sabbathian
Then you should have visited Croatia from 1991 until 1996 to see what is ethnic cleansing,
and BiH have not been cleansed becouse Croatian army went in there ... and UN, SFOR haven`t
done a thing ..... Remember Vukovar ?

What does this have to do with the price of schnitzel in Germany?

 

[Sabbathian]

Inteligence is bursting out of you ......

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Sabbathian
Inteligence is bursting out of you ......

Again, I ask you--what has your country done to improve the human condition?

 

[DoubleL]

I don`t have anything against USA itself and against its citizens,

You could sure fool me

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Terrorism is to a large extent in the mind of the beholder. One man's terrorism is another man's "freedom fighting" or "liberating". Now we can try to differentiate by pointing out that on, say 9/11, only civilians were killed, but think about it, a terrorist could argue that the targets were the Trade Centers and the 3000 dead were collateral dammage. Obviously I'm not saying that's right, I'm just suggesting that it could be a thought process used to justify an unjustifiable action. We may feel that 1000's of dead Iraqi civilians are acceptable if the greater cause is "liberating" Iraq. One has got to justify one's action's somehow, but don't act like others are unjustified in calling those actions "terrorism".

 

[Sabbathian]

My country is 13 years old.....and 5 of them we were in war.... and now we try to do something from it..... you cannot compare USA and Croatia, it is immposible..... and no, we have not invented (used) nukes so what ? I never sadid that USA did not do anything good, oh yes it did, and I agree with that .... but you seem to have a major problem with understanding my original post.
This is not me against USA, I just wanted to see what people think about it..... and something happend that I feared...... orthodox American came into play ...... hey man ...... patriotism is ok......within limits..... I also love my country, but yes, we f*cked up many times, and that is why we live the way we live....... are you able to.... are you inteligent enough to ..... admit the same about your country ? Or is "What does this have to do with the price of schnitzel in Germany?" smartest thing you can say ?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Terrorism is to a large extent in the mind of the beholder. One man's terrorism is another man's "freedom fighting" or "liberating". Now we can try to differentiate by pointing out that on, say 9/11, only civilians were killed, but think about it, a terrorist could argue that the targets were the Trade Centers and the 3000 dead were collateral dammage. Obviously I'm not saying that's right, I'm just suggesting that it could be a thought process used to justify an unjustifiable action. We may feel that 1000's of dead Iraqi civilians are acceptable if the greater cause is "liberating" Iraq. One has got to justify one's action's somehow, but don't act like others are unjustified in calling those actions "terrorism".

ah, thinking outside the box, thats rare on the forum

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

I would therefore argue that "your country -> Terrorists"

...read the book, "Mass Rape" and then list what you have done for the world again.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I would therefore argue that "your country -> Terrorists"

...read the book, "Mass Rape" and then list what you have done for the world again.

That's a tall order, John. Read up on My Lai, then tell me what you've done for the world. : )

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I would therefore argue that "your country -> Terrorists"

...read the book, "Mass Rape" and then list what you have done for the world again.

That's a tall order, John. Read up on My Lai, then tell me what you've done for the world. : )

~500 citizens vs. 5M+...you do the math.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Come to think of it, O, your comparison is just as ridiculous as the original poster's; you have multiple accounts?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I would therefore argue that "your country -> Terrorists"

...read the book, "Mass Rape" and then list what you have done for the world again.

That's a tall order, John. Read up on My Lai, then tell me what you've done for the world. : )

~500 citizens vs. 5M+...you do the math.

It was a joke, Mr. Galt, playing with words and the fallacies produced by poor use of language, is all. I'm not currently in the mood to debate atrocities, of any magnitude.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

It was a joke, Mr. Galt, playing with words and the fallacies produced by poor use of language, is all. I'm not currently in the mood to debate atrocities, of any magnitude.

I must confess--I did laugh when I read your post, but thought you were being serious (sort of)...hard to tell around this place with posts that fly in the face of logic

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Orsorum

It was a joke, Mr. Galt, playing with words and the fallacies produced by poor use of language, is all. I'm not currently in the mood to debate atrocities, of any magnitude.

I must confess--I did laugh when I read your post, but thought you were being serious (sort of)...hard to tell around this place with posts that fly in the face of logic

I'd like to think I do a good job of confusing people around here, but there are many who consistently see through my bs. I have to be on guard for those pesky fellows.

Logic is fun to play with, it leads to some interesting justifications for certain actions; the scary thing is to let myself play with a line of logic long enough to get somewhere useful, then realize that the original postulate(s) was faulty. Scary stuff, that logic. I recommend people stay away from it as much as possible.

Cheers!
Nate

 

[TheGameIs21]

Originally posted by: Sabbathian
Then you should have visited Croatia from 1991 until 1996 to see what is ethnic cleansing,
and BiH have not been cleansed becouse Croatian army went in there ... and UN, SFOR haven`t
done a thing ..... Remember Vukovar ?

Please, I haven`t mentioned Croatia in my post, I just wanted to know what people think
about USAs politics about Iraq, Vietnam etc. etc...... And if you can`t say anything smart
about that, then don`t write at all insted of writing "Croatia this, Croatia that"

I'm an authority on Croatia. I have watched ER and Luca talks about it all the time.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Almost every single country out there can be 'countryX-> Terrorists?'

I seriously think that some people live in a fantasy fairy tale world where they believe that everyone usually holds hands together while skipping and singing show tunes. The US does bad and good things, just like Croatia or any other place does bad and good things. Nothing is just black or white.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Almost every single country out there can be 'countryX-> Terrorists?'

I seriously think that some people live in a fantasy fairy tale world where they believe that everyone usually holds hands together while skipping and singing show tunes. The US does bad things, just like Croatia or any other place does bad things. Nothing is just black or white.

You mean you don't want to rid the world of evil doers?