USA -> Terrorists ?

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Almost every single country out there can be 'countryX-> Terrorists?'

I seriously think that some people live in a fantasy fairy tale world where they believe that everyone usually holds hands together while skipping and singing show tunes. The US does bad things, just like Croatia or any other place does bad things. Nothing is just black or white.

You mean you don't want to rid the world of evil doers?

I'm sure I'm an evil doer in some way!

 

[TommyVercetti]

Hell NO! All we have tried to do is help out the little countries with their problems, and in good faith too. But that has won us nothing but disdain, because everyone else is jealous of our success.

 

[maddogchen]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Where were you when I had to travel into Bosnia and Herzegovina to stop the 'ethnic cleansing' from spilling over into your country? Please name one contribution your country has made to the world and what you are doing to improve the human condition...

Which country? the US?
We invented the Internet which allows many people from different nations to share research and information on diseases and treatments to better the human condition. We invented the Polio vaccine, a vaccine that has almost wiped out the disease from much of the world, preventing thousands of deaths of children who would have contracted it.
Thats two.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

What's Croatian for "troll"?

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Hell NO! All we have tried to do is help out the little countries with their problems, and in good faith too. But that has won us nothing but disdain, because everyone else is jealous of our success.

Boy that's certainly seeing U.S. history thru rose colored glasses. The simple fact of the matter is except for a few rare instances the U.S. has and always has acted in it's own best interests, just like every other country.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What's Croatian for "troll"?

"HeroOfPellinor" would be my guess

 

[sMiLeYz]

You say you want a intelligent discussion, but you start accusing America of terrorism in forum full of americans, I mean what exactly do you expect? Plus that poll is biased as heck.

 

[Sabbathian]

Poll shows what people thing...... but don`t want to say.....
And yes, Croatian word for Troll is Trol ...... ;-)

 

[daniel1113]

The United States has done more to improve the human condition than ANY other country in the history of the world. This simply cannot be argued...

And of course the US has done things that other countries would not be allowed to do. That's what happens when you are the world's superpower. Every country is not equal, my friend.

 

[Colt45]

Ja videm ne trol ovde, a vi?


Kako ste sabbathian?


Hrmm. my jugo isn't good, no one has really tought me, so I don't know much...

 

[Sabbathian]

Lijepo za vidjeti nekoga tko barem pomalo prica Hrvatski

Veliki pozdrav Colt45

 

[Colt45]

Srpsko-hrvatski


Ja sam srbin. (rodjen u kanadu)


I was in croatia a little bit this summer, I was in pula, in the middle of juli. very hot and humid!


Hmm - what is the name of the tree, very tall, and skinny, green all year.. only grows by the coast in dalmacija, as far as i know. Do you know which tree I mean?

Adriatic is very nice weather - almost too hot though!

 

[Sabbathian]

ok, srpsko-hrvatski, nije problem ;-)

Steta sto vise neznas svoj jezik dobro ....

What tree.... I must say I don`t know which one.....

Jadransko more je najljepse more :-D

 

[DeathwatchGuard]

'twas a double post, sry... *blush*

 

[DeathwatchGuard]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
You say you want a intelligent discussion, but you start accusing America of terrorism in forum full of americans, I mean what exactly do you expect? Plus that poll is biased as heck.

Listen, while the whole world joins in an atempt to stop violence wherever,however and by whomever, your precious dictator and his lapdog Blair and a few other poor misled countries(probably hoping for whatever spoils,financial 'aid' or beneficial contracts) openly and unprovoked INVADE another country!!! And who put Saddam there in the 1st place, hm? That's right people, Bush senior... and why? OIL!!! And why did Bush 'misunderstanding' Junior
invade Iraq? OIL!!! Why didn't they invade when Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds killing ten's of thousands? Or when they promised Saddam's opposition their support then abandoned them to their most gruesome fate...wake up America!!!! Your president was not elected(Al Gore won) and people of such character are willing to do whatever they can to stay in their seat of power...they live for the power over your lives, they don't care about any of you...you simply cannot condone any action that justifies civilian casualties in such numbers without any consequences... terrorists are those who believe that the end justifies the means...that is a path that leads straight to WWIII or the Apocalypse, if you wish...

 

[Piano Man]

The US has done some very stupid things and continues to do so. The main thing to remember is that most of the people in the USA do not realize what their government is doing. Columbia, Cambodia, East Timor, Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan. We've done our share of sh!t in this world, but instead of pointing fingers, we should just knock it off, and move on towards a more equal treatment of other countries/races/cultures. The reason that this is so hard is because many of these countries are seriously f*cked up themselves, so it makes it very difficult for people to trust one another. Loving one's enemy is the hardest thing to do. But until that happens, this cycle will continue, and quite frankley, I don't see an end to it anytime soon.

 

[Sabbathian]

Piano Man, thank you for realistic view of things.... and finaly....some smart thinking .....

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Sabbathian
Piano Man, thank you for realistic view of things.... and finaly....some smart thinking .....

Nice, the guys from Croatia and Iowa are the only 'smart thinking' people around here with a "realistic view of things."

 

[Sabbathian]

I missed you.... where were you ))

Well..... you know.... there is no way to compare Croatia with intelectual center of the world.... Columba

This was a joke..... nothing more..... don`t take it seriously ......

Kiss.......from inteligent life form from another galaxy..... aka Croatia

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Sabbathian
Piano Man, thank you for realistic view of things.... and finaly....some smart thinking .....

"Thanks for agreeing with me. Only those that share my same view on the subject are intelligent. In fact, I didn't read a single thing the others wrote because it wasn't what I wanted them to write."

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Sabbathian
Piano Man, thank you for realistic view of things.... and finaly....some smart thinking .....

"Thanks for agreeing with me. Only those that share my same view on the subject are intelligent. In fact, I didn't read a single thing the others wrote because it wasn't what I wanted them to write."

Nice, thanks Dan..."for realistic view of things.... and finaly....some smart thinking ....." I assume you are neither from Croatia not Iowa, given your 'smart thinking'

 

[Fern]

Quote:

"sending a whole army into other country without any REAL or comfirmed reason ?

Are you referring to Iraq?

The country that in 1991 (not sure of date, sorrry) invaded, pilaged, and destroyed it's neighbor without provocation. Remeber that invasion? The one which caused the US and other coalition partners to get involved to help out the invaded country of Kuwait. Now Saddam lost that war he started, and didn't he agree to certain conditiond so that the coalition would back off from rightly invading Iraq at that point? And wasn't the condition of the cease-fire such that if he didn't live up to his agreement that the cease-fire was cancelled. And didn't he fail over a period of something like 12 yrs to follow his agreement. And wasn't there universal agreement that Saddam did in fact fail to keep up his end of the agreement?

Nah, you must be referring to some other country...

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Fern
Quote:

"sending a whole army into other country without any REAL or comfirmed reason ?

Are you referring to Iraq?



Nah, you must be referring to some other country...

I think he means the mass rapes and killings in his own country. Maybe I am wrong.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Fern
Quote:

"sending a whole army into other country without any REAL or comfirmed reason ?

Are you referring to Iraq?

The country that in 1991 (not sure of date, sorrry) invaded, pilaged, and destroyed it's neighbor without provocation. Remeber that invasion? The one which caused the US and other coalition partners to get involved to help out the invaded country of Kuwait. Now Saddam lost that war he started, and didn't he agree to certain conditiond so that the coalition would back off from rightly invading Iraq at that point? And wasn't the condition of the cease-fire such that if he didn't live up to his agreement that the cease-fire was cancelled. And didn't he fail over a period of something like 12 yrs to follow his agreement. And wasn't there universal agreement that Saddam did in fact fail to keep up his end of the agreement?

Nah, you must be referring to some other country...

What universal agreement? Seems the members of the U.N. were rather divided along that point, eh? Inspections were working and more time was required. Bush didn't want to wait because he knew once the inspections failed to find the WMDs that he *knew* existed. Blix and his team were begging for the intelligence information pointing to the location of the WMDs but none was ever provided.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Piano Man
The US has done some very stupid things and continues to do so. The main thing to remember is that most of the people in the USA do not realize what their government is doing. Columbia, Cambodia, East Timor, Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan. We've done our share of sh!t in this world, but instead of pointing fingers, we should just knock it off, and move on towards a more equal treatment of other countries/races/cultures. The reason that this is so hard is because many of these countries are seriously f*cked up themselves, so it makes it very difficult for people to trust one another. Loving one's enemy is the hardest thing to do. But until that happens, this cycle will continue, and quite frankley, I don't see an end to it anytime soon.

speaking of lebanon what about the syrian troops that have occupied it?

are you saying we should treat nations ruled by dictators and oligarchies that oppress the population"equally" thus legitimizing them? could said dictators and oligarchies be the reason they are as you put it..."seriously f*cked up"?

what should the UN do in situations where saying "now you better behave, that is a no-no" but they do not listen, keep on saying it and hope for the best?

what people need to realize is there are many others out there who want others dead for the simple reason they are different...they do not want to be your friend, they do not want to think like you, they will not return your "love"... they want you dead...PERIOD. and offering to hold hands and sing songs around the fire is not going to change anything except make you look weak in their eyes encouraging attack.