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USA: 60% think that "god created earth" is science

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I have looked at your links Napalm318. I'd much prefer you explain it briefly (or cut and paste relevant parts).

The fossil examples from the site on "transitional" species are just fragments and quite subject to intrepretation.

From your link: <<In summary, the very first amphibians (presently known only from fragments) were probably almost totally aquaticion. That site is mostly conjecture as are the fossil hominoids speculations.

As I said before, READ the Bible for yourself. THEN make up your own mind.
 
apoppin, just wanna clarify something. for humans, most mutations do absolutely nothing because >95% of our dna doesn't code for anything.
 
I guess we all can agree that Evolutionists will never create anyone more significant than themselves (except geneticists, maybe) and Creationists will never evolve into anyone more significant than themselves.

Satisfies me, and makes my point, too. 8^p

 
Bible Fiends,

correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt the bible say that god is the one and only god?

Knowing this, how do you explain other religions which have different gods? or multiple gods? Many religions predate chritianity, so what makes you right and them wrong?
 
&quot;false religions&quot; That's what the bible says... That's what we &quot;believe&quot;

Look, you're just trolling. What are you trying to prove? Just go away Pyro.

Do other religions warn against &quot;false religions&quot;? No? I suppose their God's don't care if people don't believe in them? That's logical. 😉
 
Evolutionist/atheist fiend.

You have to read the Bible for yourself, Pyro. It is uniquely different from the books of the other world religions.
 
apoppin, He's not going to read the bible. He just wants to bash and question what he doesn't know or understand.

That's the majority of religion bashers.. they've neither read or studied God's word. (or &quot;the bible&quot; to not confuse them).

It's something they simply just can't understand because no one is &quot;proving&quot; anything to them...

That's the secret of finding God, you have to search him out with your Heart, He can't be proven! If you insist that God has to be proven, you'll NEVER find him. That's just how it is.

That's the concept that most non-believers attack. They say believers are &quot;mindless&quot;, when in truth, non-believers are simply &quot;heartless&quot;. 😉
 
Pyro, the Christian belief is that there is one true God and that all others are false gods. If you want to say Christianity began at the birth of Christ then obviously other religions do predate it. However Jesus was a Jew and I think that christians would say that the origins of the religion are the same as the origins of judaism. (not sure when that was)
 
Whitedog, I am well aware of Pyro's motives (as you can probably see from my somewhat sarcastic replys).

<<Bible, apple, it's all the same. Snake oil.>>

Evolution, science-fiction, space-aliens and origins of life on earth. Same garbage.
 
Apoppin,

You've become so polarized I no longer recognize your former self.

Too bad. I respected you.

 
You can call what I believe &quot;snake-oil&quot;, UG.

I can refer to what you stated (rather tongue-in-cheek, I might add) in a previous thread about &quot;space aliens&quot; throwing out garbage as the origins of life on earth - and now you get offended? Did you forget?

As for your &quot;respect&quot;, I am not worried or wounded. Anyway, my offer to join you is still open if you can do better about demonstrating more evidence of your faith in your theory.

You are still quite polarized in your beliefs - in that way you have not changed.
 


<< As I said before, READ the Bible for yourself. THEN make up your own mind. >>

How would me reading the bible change what you and Whitedog think? Whitedog says that the days were literally 24 hours, while you say they were not. We clearly have two conflicting interpretations of the same material. Can you provide me with any reason why either one of your answers is correct, or not?
 
If you want to get technical about it, I'll put it this way. The Christain religion didn't really begin with Jesus, people who have become &quot;Gods children&quot; (which are now called Christians) have ties &quot;with God&quot;, which go all the way back to creation and Adam.

Christ came on the scene and changed things a bit. In a nut shell, God basically came to earth &quot;as one of us&quot; to show how much he loved us that he would go through life just as we do and suffer Death just as we do. He (God) now requires that we recognize this, and that we acknowledge Jesus as our Lord and what he did for us and what he is going to do for us in the future, which is return to defeat Satan, which only he can do.

By acknowledging Christ as our Savior, we are &quot;Christians&quot;. Many people believe in God and worship him, but if they don't recognize who Christ is and what he did for us, God will not acknowledge them. Jews are an example, and Jehova's Witnesses are another. Jew's simply only believe Jesus was just another prophet. JW's believe Jesus is not a part of God because he &quot;prayed to the Father&quot;. In my teachings, Jehova = The Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost. JW's say Jehova = The Father only.

I've personally &quot;heard&quot; (many times) The Holy Ghost speaking through persons before (yes, I'm Penticostal, where they speak in tongues 😛) and identify himself as &quot;Jehova your God&quot;. So if the Holy Ghost is Jehova, and the Father is Jehova, then Jesus must be too 🙂

OK, I'll shuddup.
 
Apoppin,

If you equally as accurately recall, I qualified that space alien garbage cum human anecdote as having been the theme of a science fiction short story I once read.

That you've tried on more than one occassion to beat me over the head with the same space alien garbage cum human anecdote as being science fiction is grade school logic turnabout. I'm so, so wounded. 8^p

I've always been polarized since you've known me. I've not presented muyself otherwise. I'm right, correct, afterall.

You, however, have previously presented yourself as being more moderate, less militant, than you currently arenow being.

You, of late, are so much more like me -- a militant, polarized soldier defending the right and correct interpretation of reality -- that I can not help but chuckle at your evolution. 😀

Thou art coveting thine own hypothesis. Bad science, my friend.

Oh, yeah. It's habit with you, et al. Nothing is provisional with you, is it? 8^p

Science rules!
 
Well, Napalm381, if you read the Bible for yourself, you can decide for yourself what is reasonable or not.

If you continue as you are - without investigating - you will have to take other people's word for what it says.

Whitedog and I do agree that everything came into being by means of a creator; that evolution is unreasonable.

As to the specifics, he never answered my second post why I believe the Bible's creative days were thousands of years, not a literal 24-hour day. The gist of my argument is that each time a day is mentioned - for EACH of 6 days - the account gives a conclusion to that day. However, for the seventh day, there is NO conclusion. The context of the Bible (it's all one book by one author - although penned by many men) shows that we are still in God's rest day.
 
I remember your story, UG. I've never let you live it down. It was not just presented as a story. In fact, many evolutionists believe life originated elsewhere in the universe and made its way through space to earth to develop here.

Actually, I have been doing a lot of reading on evolution AND the Bible recently. I believe one has to finally make up their mind about what one believes. I am quite certain that evolution does not provide the answers to the order of the universe and the origin of life as well as any future. Something very basic is missing from this philosophy.

Actually, it would be far easier for me to believe in a godless evolution. That way there is no responsibility on my part. But for me the weight of evidence has tipped in favor of creation.

I do agree about science. But I find little or no conflict between science and the Bible. Rather I find the Bible to be the most remarkable book I have ever read.

EDIT: REST as in rest from creative works.

 
Perhaps it is because &quot;Christians&quot; are not following Christ's commands regarding marriage and divorce (Matthew 19:9).

I am missing your point here. (not really)

I am just saying that FOR ME, evolution is not reasonable.
 
You must mean 'not reasonable enough', since is is, by definition, based on scientific reasoning?

 
<...&quot;Christians&quot; are not following Christ's commands regarding marriage and divorce...>

So, atheists should while 'Christians' don't?

Seems many Christians need to take up the Atheist's perspective to be better Christians. 😀

 
It is by definition, supposed to be based on the scientific method.

As I have pointed out many times in the past, evolution does not meet its theory predictions tests. Scientists overlook this because they want to believe it. It's a giant blindspot much the same as you accuse creation believers.

EDIT: These Christians need to follow their own book.
 
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