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US: Worst, Most Expensive Healthcare of High Income Countries

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US still has the worst, most expensive health care of any high-income country

US health care has lagged peers for years, and the pandemic made things worse.
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Besides spending 18% of GDP (5% of GDP more than the next on the list) on health care we get 3 years less life expectancy than the average first world country.

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We also lead the 1st world in dead babies and dead mothers.

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However this interesting chart from the CDC suggests that not surprisingly the effects are not evenly distributed across the country:

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Strange how your state is run affects how long you might live.
Good news for the West Coast and New England your life expectancy looks a lot more like the 1st world than the South.
 
MAGA! /S

side note: not a fan of those map colors. classic is red is high, green is middle, and blue is low. or in certain things like disease outbreaks, red is worst case and blue is best case. but using something from the same color family (reds oranges) for the entire scale is visually obnoxious. i'm a sucker for good data presentation
 
Yeah the color choices are awful. And this has been the case for a decade or two. And instead of changing, Republican states just double down on killing themselves. Go freedum.
 
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Fenixgoon said:
MAGA! /S

side note: not a fan of those map colors. classic is red is high, green is middle, and blue is low. or in certain things like disease outbreaks, red is worst case and blue is best case. but using something from the same color family (reds oranges) for the entire scale is visually obnoxious. i'm a sucker for good data presentation
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Screw colors. Bars, and gradients! 🙂
 
Paratus said:
arstechnica.com

US still has the worst, most expensive health care of any high-income country

US health care has lagged peers for years, and the pandemic made things worse.
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com

Besides spending 18% of GDP (5% of GDP more than the next on the list) on health care we get 3 years less life expectancy than the average first world country.

We also lead the 1st world in dead babies and dead mothers.

maternal-infant-mortality.jpeg
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WE'RE #1! (/sigh)

Which one of these things is not like the others...
Norway, Japan, Sweden, UK, Canada all offer single-payer healthcare
Korea, Germany, Austria, France, Netherlands, New Zealand, Switzerland have universal healthcare heavily managed/regulated by the government

Which is the only one with neither? GOUSA! Spend 2x as much, for far worse outcomes, by basically every metric.
 
And the red states want to make abortion difficult if not impossible, so women will die in back alley attempts or be forced to raise kids they didn't want in the first place. Not a recipe for good lives. Denying people what they want and need is no way to promote health.
 
Fenixgoon said:
MAGA! /S

side note: not a fan of those map colors. classic is red is high, green is middle, and blue is low. or in certain things like disease outbreaks, red is worst case and blue is best case. but using something from the same color family (reds oranges) for the entire scale is visually obnoxious. i'm a sucker for good data presentation
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I hate all those color significations charts, maps, etc., being "strong protan" color blind. That stuff always drives me nuts.
 
It looks like a problem that will eventually fix itself. As more righties/conservatives die off sooner than the left, the demographics will change and we’ll finally be able to get a government that actually takes care of a majority of its citizens and not just those that can afford to lobby it. I don’t know if it’ll happen in my lifetime but I take solace in the thought.
 
Paratus said:
arstechnica.com

US still has the worst, most expensive health care of any high-income country

US health care has lagged peers for years, and the pandemic made things worse.
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com

Besides spending 18% of GDP (5% of GDP more than the next on the list) on health care we get 3 years less life expectancy than the average first world country.

spending.jpeg


We also lead the 1st world in dead babies and dead mothers.

maternal-infant-mortality.jpeg


However this interesting chart from the CDC suggests that not surprisingly the effects are not evenly distributed across the country:

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Strange how your state is run affects how long you might live.
Good news for the West Coast and New England your life expectancy looks a lot more like the 1st world than the South.
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Americans spend an exorbitant amount of money on health care and have for years. As a country, the US spends more on health care than any other high-income country in the world—on the basis of both per-person costs and a share of gross domestic product. Yet, you wouldn't know it from looking at major health metrics in years past; the US has relatively abysmal health.

I am reminded of the fact that doctors' health is something you would expect to excel but does not.
 
ivwshane said:
It looks like a problem that will eventually fix itself. As more righties/conservatives die off sooner than the left, the demographics will change and we’ll finally be able to get a government that actually takes care of a majority of its citizens and not just those that can afford to lobby it. I don’t know if it’ll happen in my lifetime but I take solace in the thought.
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Democrat donations have been crushing it vs the evil Repugnicans, yet healthcare is more broken than ever. But you sit there and wish for particular people to die. Sick fucker.
 
One thing that adds to the problem is that we advertise drugs on tv, what other countries do this? And the tag lines are always the same...ask your dr if this is right for you.
 
soundforbjt said:
One thing that adds to the problem is that we advertise drugs on tv, what other countries do this? And the tag lines are always the same...ask your dr if this is right for you.
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I fast-forward through all of those (when I watch TV I virtually always time shift). They seem to be much more common (in my limited experience, since there's a lot of TV I just plain stay away from) on news programs. I attribute it to the likelihood that the demographic that watches TV news is relatively old, i.e. people who are much more likely than the average person to have chronic or annoying medical conditions.
 
MrSquished said:
Just find someone wearing Maga paraphilia. Jesus this ain't complicated
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Oh, you mean the othering of fellow citizens that you find inconvenient? I guess that might be easy for a depraved mind. All I see is fellow citizens, no matter their outlandish dress or awful beliefs. Most of them are just misled, they still want most of the same things, food, shelter, for their kids to be safe. I'm not sure their kids are safe around you, though.
 
crashtech said:
Oh, you mean the othering of fellow citizens that you find inconvenient? I guess that might be easy for a depraved mind. All I see is fellow citizens, no matter their outlandish dress or awful beliefs. Most of them are just misled, they still want most of the same things, food, shelter, for their kids to be safe. I'm not sure their kids are safe around you, though.
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so did most Nazis. and brown shirt facsists in Italy. and Maoists in China. and Pol Pot's crews. and Klu Klux Klan folks and everybody in the Confederacy. and the Ghengis Khan Clan, and the folks behind the Inquisitions, and on and on and on and on and on throughout all of human history.

Have you heard of this thing called history? Evil people want food and shelter and to take care of their kids too. NEWS FLASH AT 11!

plenty are just straight up evil. and misled is not an excuse to the hundreds of millions of people in history who suffer at these people's hands.

or maybe you just happen to be friends with a lot of Nazis? could you be this oblivious to human history?

you don't think kids are safe around me? lolol man you are one fucked up moron and projecting some sick shit on this internet here.
 
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MrSquished said:
so did most Nazis. and brown shirt facsists in Italy. and Maoists in China. and Pol Pot's crews. and on and on and on and on and on throughout all of human history.

Have you heard of this thing called history? Evil people want food and shelter and to take care of their kids too. NEWS FLASH AT 11!

plenty are just straight up evil. and misled is not an excuse to the hundreds of millions of people in history who suffer at these people's hands.

or maybe you just happen to be friends with a lot of Nazis? could you be this oblivious to human history?

you don't think kids are safe around me? lolol man you are one fucked up moron and projecting some sick shit on this internet here.
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You regurgitate platitudes while labeling others as morons. You are the one who thinks they get to enforce ideological uniformity while labeling others as "Nazis." I wonder if you started off as truly well meaning, I could believe that. If so, like many others, you have become what you proposed to oppose.
 
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