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US version of Smart ForTwo in camo spied

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Originally posted by: kmr1212
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: kmr1212
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: Jassi
They certified that tin can for highway driving?

someone by my work has been driving one for months.

where do you put groceries or other large items?

You don't.

there is still a trunk in the back. you rent a U-Haul when you want to carry large items.

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

that thing can tow?

well, can any compact sedan tow?


umm...no. i asked because you brought up uhaul
He didn't mention anything about towing... 😕

I think you need reading comprehension help.
 
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: kmr1212
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: kmr1212
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: Jassi
They certified that tin can for highway driving?

someone by my work has been driving one for months.

where do you put groceries or other large items?

You don't.

there is still a trunk in the back. you rent a U-Haul when you want to carry large items.

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

that thing can tow?

well, can any compact sedan tow?


umm...no. i asked because you brought up uhaul
He didn't mention anything about towing... 😕

I think you need reading comprehension help.

touche
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
What are the specs on it?

3 cylinder, 6-700cc (yes 0.7 liter), turbocharged. These specs may change on the new model.


That's badass.

It should get a hell of a lot more than 40MPG, too.

BTW: All you people saying "zOMG! How is that thing highway legal?!" are full of sh!t.

Are motorcycles highway legal? :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Kenazo
My wife's best friend has one (I'm in Canada). It actually has far more room in it than one might expect. It's got probably 2 feet behind the seats, tons of leg room and there's about 4 inches between my head and the roof (I'm 6'3"). I don't think it's worth the $24k that she paid for it mind you.

$24k!!!!

that's insanity
 
Originally posted by: StevenYoo

$24k!!!!

that's insanity


that's CAD, which is roughly $20 US, which is still insanity.


I read from a previous post that the Smart ForTwo willl MSRP for 15k in the US.

which is not exactly cheap, nor exactly outrageously expensive.
 
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: StevenYoo

$24k!!!!

that's insanity


that's CAD, which is roughly $20 US, which is still insanity.


I read from a previous post that the Smart ForTwo willl MSRP for 15k in the US.

which is not exactly cheap, nor exactly outrageously expensive.

You can buy a Scion TC for less than that and get a halfway decent looking, non-Ford Festiva car.
 
Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: Jassi
They certified that tin can for highway driving?

someone by my work has been driving one for months.

where do you put groceries or other large items?

You don't.

sounds very useful

It is, actually, especially for someone who lives in a city and doesn't haul large items around very often.
 
Originally posted by: Eli

That's badass.

It should get a hell of a lot more than 40MPG, too.

BTW: All you people saying "zOMG! How is that thing highway legal?!" are full of sh!t.

Are motorcycles highway legal? :roll:


I wouldn't drive one of those either.
 
Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
What are the specs on it?

I know someone who has one, it's actualy a Mercedes Benz. It has a small (l litere-ish) Diesel engine that can achieve 50+ MPG.

 
its too damn small. I'd like a VW polo though, if they brought them over.

they're a little smaller than a golf, and you can get it with 150hp TDI and 6spd DSG. should go like snot.
 
Originally posted by: sniperruff

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

That demonstration was *extremely* misleading.

What they didn't show you is the G's that the vehicle underwent. I can crash a titanium cage into a train and have it come out unscathed. But the occupants inside it would be toast, due to the huge acceleration forces.

Sure, this smart might be a stiff box, but when a 1500 lb smart hits a 4500 lb SUV, that smart car is going to bear the brunt of the acceleration, which is bad for the occupants. Crumple zones are there for a reason. It's a common misconception that no bending = survivable.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sniperruff

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

That demonstration was *extremely* misleading.

What they didn't show you is the G's that the vehicle underwent. I can crash a titanium cage into a train and have it come out unscathed. But the occupants inside it would be toast, due to the huge acceleration forces.

Sure, this smart might be a stiff box, but when a 1500 lb smart hits a 4500 lb SUV, that smart car is going to bear the brunt of the acceleration, which is bad for the occupants. Crumple zones are there for a reason. It's a common misconception that no bending = survivable.

Exactly...think back to the unbendable steel cages of American cars of the 60s
 
What a piece of sh!t.

I lived in Northern Europe during part of 2004, did a lot of traveling, and saw quite a few SmartCars.

I went back over this past summer to travel and saw noticeably less. Maybe people in Europe are finally realizing what junk it is ... time for the US market.
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sniperruff

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

That demonstration was *extremely* misleading.

What they didn't show you is the G's that the vehicle underwent. I can crash a titanium cage into a train and have it come out unscathed. But the occupants inside it would be toast, due to the huge acceleration forces.

Sure, this smart might be a stiff box, but when a 1500 lb smart hits a 4500 lb SUV, that smart car is going to bear the brunt of the acceleration, which is bad for the occupants. Crumple zones are there for a reason. It's a common misconception that no bending = survivable.

Exactly...think back to the unbendable steel cages of American cars of the 60s

Smart cars are too small for crumple zones, rigidity is all they have. Proper seatbelts and air bags should make up for it though.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sniperruff

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

That demonstration was *extremely* misleading.

What they didn't show you is the G's that the vehicle underwent. I can crash a titanium cage into a train and have it come out unscathed. But the occupants inside it would be toast, due to the huge acceleration forces.

Sure, this smart might be a stiff box, but when a 1500 lb smart hits a 4500 lb SUV, that smart car is going to bear the brunt of the acceleration, which is bad for the occupants. Crumple zones are there for a reason. It's a common misconception that no bending = survivable.

Exactly...think back to the unbendable steel cages of American cars of the 60s

Smart cars are too small for crumple zones, rigidity is all they have. Proper seatbelts and air bags should make up for it though.

Can't larger cars also have seatbelts and air bags?
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sniperruff

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

That demonstration was *extremely* misleading.

What they didn't show you is the G's that the vehicle underwent. I can crash a titanium cage into a train and have it come out unscathed. But the occupants inside it would be toast, due to the huge acceleration forces.

Sure, this smart might be a stiff box, but when a 1500 lb smart hits a 4500 lb SUV, that smart car is going to bear the brunt of the acceleration, which is bad for the occupants. Crumple zones are there for a reason. It's a common misconception that no bending = survivable.

Exactly...think back to the unbendable steel cages of American cars of the 60s

Smart cars are too small for crumple zones, rigidity is all they have. Proper seatbelts and air bags should make up for it though.

Can't larger cars also have seatbelts and air bags?

They do. 😉
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sniperruff

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

That demonstration was *extremely* misleading.

What they didn't show you is the G's that the vehicle underwent. I can crash a titanium cage into a train and have it come out unscathed. But the occupants inside it would be toast, due to the huge acceleration forces.

Sure, this smart might be a stiff box, but when a 1500 lb smart hits a 4500 lb SUV, that smart car is going to bear the brunt of the acceleration, which is bad for the occupants. Crumple zones are there for a reason. It's a common misconception that no bending = survivable.

Exactly...think back to the unbendable steel cages of American cars of the 60s

Smart cars are too small for crumple zones, rigidity is all they have. Proper seatbelts and air bags should make up for it though.

Can't larger cars also have seatbelts and air bags?

They do. 😉

And larger cars can also have crumple zones, yes?
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: sniperruff

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

That demonstration was *extremely* misleading.

What they didn't show you is the G's that the vehicle underwent. I can crash a titanium cage into a train and have it come out unscathed. But the occupants inside it would be toast, due to the huge acceleration forces.

Sure, this smart might be a stiff box, but when a 1500 lb smart hits a 4500 lb SUV, that smart car is going to bear the brunt of the acceleration, which is bad for the occupants. Crumple zones are there for a reason. It's a common misconception that no bending = survivable.

Exactly...think back to the unbendable steel cages of American cars of the 60s

Smart cars are too small for crumple zones, rigidity is all they have. Proper seatbelts and air bags should make up for it though.

Can't larger cars also have seatbelts and air bags?

They do. 😉

And larger cars can also have crumple zones, yes?

I never denied it. I just said Smart cars can not.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski

Smart cars are too small for crumple zones, rigidity is all they have. Proper seatbelts and air bags should make up for it though.


It doesn't make up for it, since the distance you have to decelerate is still much less than what you'd have in a car with crumple zones.

In this smart, with this airbag and seatbelts, you might have to go from 60-0 in 10 inches instead of 3 feet in an full size car. That would be an immense difference on your body.
 
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