US version of Smart ForTwo in camo spied

[T9D]

That things a death trap.

Would be great for a college campus, or in a really cramped traffic ridden city. But no way I'd ever go on a free way with that or long distances.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: StevenYoo

$24k!!!!

that's insanity

that's CAD, which is roughly $20 US, which is still insanity.


I read from a previous post that the Smart ForTwo willl MSRP for 15k in the US.

which is not exactly cheap, nor exactly outrageously expensive.

:laugh:

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Colt45
its too damn small. I'd like a VW polo though, if they brought them over.

they're a little smaller than a golf, and you can get it with 150hp TDI and 6spd DSG. should go like snot.

There's a version for the Polo where it is fitted with a twincharger (yes, turbo and supercharger). Displacement is 1.5L, and the output is 147hp. I think it's called the Polo TSI.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: sandorski

Smart cars are too small for crumple zones, rigidity is all they have. Proper seatbelts and air bags should make up for it though.

It doesn't make up for it, since the distance you have to decelerate is still much less than what you'd have in a car with crumple zones.

In this smart, with this airbag and seatbelts, you might have to go from 60-0 in 10 inches instead of 3 feet in an full size car. That would be an immense difference on your body.

Certainly the effects on people won't be the same, but that's besides the point. Survivability is key and with the Smart crumple zones are not an option, so rigidity combined SB and AB is what works.

 

[Googer]

http://www.auto.bme.hu/sajtotaj/mercedes/smart/puls_cab-1.jpg

 

[Googer]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=smart+crash

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Certainly the effects on people won't be the same, but that's besides the point. Survivability is key and with the Smart crumple zones are not an option, so rigidity combined SB and AB is what works.

You're claiming "that's what works", but in all probability, it will not work. A Smart car will have a much higher accident fatality rate than a larger car with crumple zones in addition to seat belts and an air bag like the Smart has.

Your claim that survivability will be the same is completely inaccurate.

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: Googer
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=smart+crash

pretty good

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: sandorski

Certainly the effects on people won't be the same, but that's besides the point. Survivability is key and with the Smart crumple zones are not an option, so rigidity combined SB and AB is what works.

You're claiming "that's what works", but in all probability, it will not work. A Smart car will have a much higher accident fatality rate than a larger car with crumple zones in addition to seat belts and an air bag like the Smart has.

Your claim that survivability will be the same is completely inaccurate.

Time will tell.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: sniperruff

and for those of you who don't know anything about this car, it smashed a BMW 5-series like a comet in a crash test, and the chassis came out in one piece. no bending at all.

That demonstration was *extremely* misleading.

What they didn't show you is the G's that the vehicle underwent. I can crash a titanium cage into a train and have it come out unscathed. But the occupants inside it would be toast, due to the huge acceleration forces.

Sure, this smart might be a stiff box, but when a 1500 lb smart hits a 4500 lb SUV, that smart car is going to bear the brunt of the acceleration, which is bad for the occupants. Crumple zones are there for a reason. It's a common misconception that no bending = survivable.

Exactly...think back to the unbendable steel cages of American cars of the 60s

Smart cars are too small for crumple zones, rigidity is all they have. Proper seatbelts and air bags should make up for it though.

Can't larger cars also have seatbelts and air bags?

They do.

And larger cars can also have crumple zones, yes?

I never denied it. I just said Smart cars can not.

I don't understand your math, then.

Smart cars = Rigidity + Seat Belts + Air Bags
Larger cars = Crumple Zones + Seat Belts + Air Bags

Since both have seat belts and air bags, how can the Smarts' seat belts and air bags make up for anything?

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: sandorski

Smart cars are too small for crumple zones, rigidity is all they have. Proper seatbelts and air bags should make up for it though.

It doesn't make up for it, since the distance you have to decelerate is still much less than what you'd have in a car with crumple zones.

In this smart, with this airbag and seatbelts, you might have to go from 60-0 in 10 inches instead of 3 feet in an full size car. That would be an immense difference on your body.

Certainly the effects on people won't be the same, but that's besides the point. Survivability is key and with the Smart crumple zones are not an option, so rigidity combined SB and AB is what works.

It sounds like you're confusing "what works" with "what is available"