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Most Muslims believe that USA supports ISIS and in fact created ISIS. The other day this white American woman surprised me by saying that she totally thinks that ISIS is a creation of US. Even the name Islamic State of Syria and Iraq has such American tone.
 
HomerJS said:
Yes until the invasion of Kuwait
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Uh, then his assertion is incorrect. Maybe we buddy-buddy before Kuwait, but certainly not "before 9-11".

Heck, the Clinton's railed against Saddam and made regime change an official policy. Saddam was vilified the entire 8 yrs of Clinton's office, which was all before 9-11.

Fern
 
Fern said:
Uh, then his assertion is incorrect. Maybe we buddy-buddy before Kuwait, but certainly not "before 9-11".

Heck, the Clinton's railed against Saddam and made regime change an official policy. Saddam was vilified the entire 8 yrs of Clinton's office, which was all before 9-11.

Fern
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you misread the poster. the claim was that we were buddy buddy with AQ until 9/11. then another claim that we were buddy buddy with saddam until we decided to off him. not that we were buddy buddy with saddam until 9/11.
 
werepossum said:
Dead darkies? Has anyone on the left ever even met a Syrian?

The idea that President Obama, a half-black man who identifies as black, armed the Syrians because he considered them expendable "darkies" is so ludicrous that I marvel how anyone professing it could even write it with a kindergarten pencil, much less a computer. It's the kind of "reasoning" one expects to be expressed in barks and drool and artistically flung poo.
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So a president can't take advantage of the american view that middle easterners are politically expendable, because he's black.

Notice this kind of racial thinking is what's responsible for said view in the first place.
 
I mean your shitshow of an invasion and post-occupation plan created them to begin with, so this is hardly anything special. And you sure seem anxious to get the guys who dreamt that mess up to get back in the White House.
 
So, maybe, juuuuuust maybe, invading people and committing atrocities is NOT the way to interact with not-American countries?

Can't have that commie talk in this great country of liberty, you red commie ticks suckling the macromastiacal bosom of this White Housic nation.
 
werepossum said:
Serving Saddam. Rape rooms and torture chambers don't run themselves.
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So what? I don't give a shit. And unless you live in Iraq - you shouldn't either. Sure Saddam tortured his own people, but he kept the crazies locked up. None of them were beheading western journalists.
 
Or, you know, don't put a fucking psychopath in there in the first place?

Like, stop giving evil people power. That's what evil people do.
 
Nothing new here, The US supported Bin laden and the Mujahadin which later morphed into Al Qaeda.

CIA Helped to Train and Support Bin Laden, Ramzi Yousef and Other Top Islamic Terrorists
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/blowback.html

Jimmy Carter’s National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski admitted on CNN that the U.S. organized and supported Bin Laden and the other originators of “Al Qaeda” in the 1970s to fight the Soviets. Brzezinski told Al Qaeda’s forefathers – the Mujahadin:
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agent00f said:
Saddam was head of a secular Baathist party. Perhaps you need a reminder that ISIS is approx the polar opposite.
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Perhaps you need to watch some of Saddam's speeches, for he very much considered himself to be the leader of the faith as well. Iraq was secular only in as far as whoever ruled it made damned sure no cleric could attain enough power to be a threat to himself.
 
agent00f said:
Saddam was head of a secular Baathist party. Perhaps you need a reminder that ISIS is approx the polar opposite.
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It's widely understood that the people in charge of ISIS are ex-Iraqi army officers. Some are radicalized, some just want to be back in the driver's seat.
 
yllus said:
It's widely understood that the people in charge of ISIS are ex-Iraqi army officers. Some are radicalized, some just want to be back in the driver's seat.
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Yep. As always, people who covet power will be whatever they need to be to attain that power.
 
WHAMPOM said:
'cause former Republican Presidents are great and can do no wrong.
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This, to a large degree.

It went back to The Crusades even, but after investment in the 50's when the Saudi's hit oil and the West started dumping money there, it has been do not mess with their religion for profit thing in the ME.

Of course, there are 20 different answers to each situation there, why it's been a mess forever anyway.

Lots of people jump ship to retain a power position.
 
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of course we support ISIS, it's called controlled opposition, to further our system of destroying existing oil/gas infrastructure in order to allow a US or US allied company to come in and rebuild said infrastructure using the USD/loans by American allied banks/financial aid packages based on the US dollar.

because of compound interest and the FED.

we've been doing this to every country in the middle east starting with Iran, in 78'
 
Everyone! Quick! Hide under your tin foil tents and complain on the internet..before it's too late!!
 
zanejohnson said:
of course we support ISIS, it's called controlled opposition, to further our system of destroying existing oil/gas infrastructure in order to allow a US or US allied company to come in and rebuild said infrastructure using the USD/loans by American allied banks/financial aid packages based on the US dollar.

because of compound interest and the FED.

we've been doing this to every country in the middle east starting with Iran, in 78'
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You should broaden your horizons a bit.

General Wesley Clark - Supreme Allied Commander, Europe/Commander in Chief, U.S. European Command, 1997–2000. He was the 161st 4-star general in US history.

In this video at about 1:40 he will tell you why.

It goes something like this :

"The truth about the middle east is, had there been no oil there, it would be like Africa. Nobody is threatening to intervene in Africa."
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