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US Marine on trial for war crimes...
- Thread starter HannibalX
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NFS4
No Lifer
Man, I'd hate to meet you in a dark alley. He fired upon some troops...OK. Big mistake.
But the Marine was close enough to him where he could have taken him prisoner. NOT shoot him in the back of the head twice. There are such thing as rules of engagement/rules of war.
It'd be all the same if a a perp shot at a group of cops, then threw down his weapon. And as the cop walks up behind the perp to handcuff him, he, says "f*&k it" and unloads two rounds into the back of his head.
Definitely not justified.
HannibalX
Diamond Member
her209 you bet wrong.
NFS4 the guy was armed with a rifle and grenades, he was not handcuffed, and just attacked an American unit. Maybe if the guy had thrown down his weapons he could have been taken prisoner. I don't see how this is related to police who are peace keepers, and Marines who were at war and trained to kill. I think the better option would have been to shoot him in the chest, but seriously would you take any chances in the same situation??
NFS4 the guy was armed with a rifle and grenades, he was not handcuffed, and just attacked an American unit. Maybe if the guy had thrown down his weapons he could have been taken prisoner. I don't see how this is related to police who are peace keepers, and Marines who were at war and trained to kill. I think the better option would have been to shoot him in the chest, but seriously would you take any chances in the same situation??
HappyPuppy
Lifer
None of us were there and none of us know what the full story is. He obviously made a stupid statement, but statements to newspapers aren't necessarily the facts.
I doubt there are many here who have been under enemy fire for days, or weeks, at a time. How many of you know what your mentality would be under those circumstances? You pass judgment without experience or facts. Have you stood next to your best friends when they were killed or their arms and legs were blown off? Go ahead, it's easy for you to be judgmental sitting all safe and cozy behind your monitors eating Cheetoz.
Most of you have no idea what happens to a soldier in the field and don't give me this crap that they are supposed to be trained to be automatons. They are human beings.
I doubt there are many here who have been under enemy fire for days, or weeks, at a time. How many of you know what your mentality would be under those circumstances? You pass judgment without experience or facts. Have you stood next to your best friends when they were killed or their arms and legs were blown off? Go ahead, it's easy for you to be judgmental sitting all safe and cozy behind your monitors eating Cheetoz.
Most of you have no idea what happens to a soldier in the field and don't give me this crap that they are supposed to be trained to be automatons. They are human beings.
HappyPuppy
Lifer
Taking souvenirs from the enemy, like belt buckles,insignias, hats, helmets, etc. is normal and has been going on forever. Perhaps you would have to have lived through a similar situation in order to understand it.
NFS4
No Lifer
He would have been a POW if someone hadn't popped two bullets into his head😉
The soldier told him to STOP and then to TURN AROUND. If the soldier thought he was in danger, he would have not even told him anything. He would have just popped him w/o question. But he took the iniative to reason with the enemy, then shoot him.
The soldier told him to STOP and then to TURN AROUND. If the soldier thought he was in danger, he would have not even told him anything. He would have just popped him w/o question. But he took the iniative to reason with the enemy, then shoot him.
Yeah, that's why 8 members of the 507th Maintenance Unit ended up dead right? I'd be willing to bet they were not all killed during the firefight.
As far as Im concerned it's war and if an enemy soldier attacks our troops then our troops have the right to take that person out. It doesn't matter if he then decided he didn't want to fight anymore. The Iraqis were very underhanded, fighting in civilian clothes and feigning surrender and then attacking. You can't trust them.
Other than bragging about it, it doesnt appear this soldier was out of line.
As far as Im concerned it's war and if an enemy soldier attacks our troops then our troops have the right to take that person out. It doesn't matter if he then decided he didn't want to fight anymore. The Iraqis were very underhanded, fighting in civilian clothes and feigning surrender and then attacking. You can't trust them.
Other than bragging about it, it doesnt appear this soldier was out of line.
HannibalX
Diamond Member
Well we just don't agree NFS4, thats ok though. HappyPuppy please don't assume things, I have lived through a couple wars now and I realise this is common place but the media frowns on it, and because he did shoot the Iraqi from behind it makes him look like a thief.
I agree with this statement.
I agree with this statement.
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